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is Zenio playing right now? can we get updates on that? xx
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On March 07 2012 19:23 ftd.rain wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 19:18 JJH777 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:16 ftd.rain wrote:On March 07 2012 19:14 JJH777 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:12 Terminal wrote:On March 07 2012 19:11 ZenithM wrote:On March 07 2012 19:08 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:05 xrapture wrote:On March 07 2012 19:02 Mentalizor wrote:On March 07 2012 19:01 EmilA wrote:
Prediction: All foreign terrans end last in their groups (Kas perhaps second last to Idra.) Due to the fact, you've got a terran portrait, I think I can smell some Terran bias here... Comments on MMA going 10-0? yes, you're right. Another Korean Terran victory in dominating fashion will prove that all of us Terran players problems with Terran are stupid and Terran needs another nerf. So what a foreign Terran hasnt won a major live event in the last 1.5 years, have you seen the GSL? So Foreign Terrans just suck? Yep, I'm sorry, but as unfounded as the "Protoss players are just bad" claims were when every Protoss on the planet was doing bad, I'll say it now: foreigner Terrans are just bad. Why? Because there happens to exist good Terrans, that's why. So foreign Terran's essentially have to be the best players in the world just to win games? Sounds pretty dumb to me. It isn't just the best Korean Terrans that win games. Korea has been very Terran dominated at Code B, Code A, and Code S levels for a long time now. That's a blatant lie and I'm not gonna waste my time pulling all the stats here, but please stop lying. Umm what? How is it a blatant lie. Like 4 of the Code A finals have been TvT. There was once 20 Terrans in Code S. It is NOT just a few good Terrans winning games. Lurk liquipedia for the recent code A qualifiers, code S and code A results.Stephano and Naniwa were quite a bit weaker (especially Naniwa) than Thorzain or Kas @WC3, I know what that means to me.
I know it's starting to change now and in the past few months(though Terran still has the most players in Code S) but for the past year as a whole Korea has been terran dominated at every level.
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Excellent scout from IdrA knows whats coming now!! Can he hold it though/counter it?
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On March 07 2012 19:22 kurrysauce wrote:
meh , hard to see idra winning this series if he loses this first map. Antiga hasn't been good for ZvP..
Not sure, vP there are a lot of possibilities(but also for P I agree), though I would not say per se this map is bad for Zerg. It all comes down if the quick third can be held by the zerg. That´s like the most crucial point.
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P v Idra makes Protoss look op. Then you see Drg/Stephano v P....
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So did feast dc or was it computer problems?
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On March 07 2012 19:21 Audemed wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 19:20 Mycl wrote:
Idra is getting no love here with the map selections lol Does Idra get ANY love anymore? He seems to have almost completely fallen from grace these few months...
I wouldn`t say he lost all fans, but some. It`s only natural if you don`t respect anyone or anything, that people don`t respect you anymore. Maybe it would help, if he rather speaks through actions than tweets.
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On March 07 2012 19:22 Kiyo. wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 19:21 Jono7272 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:20 Kiyo. wrote:On March 07 2012 19:18 Jono7272 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:15 Tump wrote:On March 07 2012 19:13 Jono7272 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:11 Tump wrote:On March 07 2012 19:09 doffe wrote:
ridicolously unfair and silly play by Feast imo... 14min no obs wtf? Really dont like these builds that say, "hope he doesnt get banshee cause then I lose". And tbh, if Feast saw the replay of the game before he should have had given that to Kas. Thats just good sportmanship.
Uh... Feast read his build and knew he was going bio. Do you even know how competitive Starcraft is played? Or anything about it? Why would you get an Observer when you KNOW you don't need it. Feast was adjusting his build to cut corners. That's what good players constantly do day in and day out. He didn't scout anything past the bunker. He knew nothing. Uh are you serious? The bunker is a tell that you're going for 1 rax command center into bio. It could be a bluff, going for some kind 1-1-1 on one or two bases, but he can scout that with a Stalker. Kas JUST DID the same exact build on the same map before the disconnect. Players tend to not change because they prepare a specific build for a specific map and matchup. You're a dolt. Lol. You can go 1 rax cc, into double gas, into banshees. He didn't know. He made a good guess. You realize everyone does this right? A player scouts a nexus being built, they assume that their opponent is expanding. The opponent can then expand, or cancel the nexus and go all in. The player that scouted the nexus has to guess what will happen, since he can't know for sure. This happens pretty much every game. You make educated guesses to get ahead of your opponent based on things you scout. It even says in my post he made a good guess, so yes, I realise this. Then how can you call it unfair and silly play when everyone does this? Why would you single out Feast?
I was the one calling it silly risky play and the unfair part was directed to the regame not towards feasts playstyle. There is no such thing as unfair games in starcraft disregarding technical issues.
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On March 07 2012 19:24 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 19:19 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:15 huehuehuehue wrote:On March 07 2012 19:15 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:12 mordk wrote:On March 07 2012 19:08 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:05 xrapture wrote:On March 07 2012 19:02 Mentalizor wrote:On March 07 2012 19:01 EmilA wrote:
Prediction: All foreign terrans end last in their groups (Kas perhaps second last to Idra.) Due to the fact, you've got a terran portrait, I think I can smell some Terran bias here... Comments on MMA going 10-0? yes, you're right. Another Korean Terran victory in dominating fashion will prove that all of us Terran players problems with Terran are stupid and Terran needs another nerf. So what a foreign Terran hasnt won a major live event in the last 1.5 years, have you seen the GSL? So Foreign Terrans just suck? Mostly yes, at least when compared to koreans. Thorzain and Kas have shown promise though. Foreign terrans seem to only be able to macro or pull of the effective aggressive builds. Korean terrans tend to do both. Kas and Thorzain sort of represent that. Kas can macro, but his aggression is non-existent and it's not like he's got particularly amazing micro. Whereas Thorzaine has really tight builds, and can all-in at any point really keeping you guessing but his macro isn't anything special either. Agression is nonexistant? Have you watched him play TvZ? Yeah, pushing isn't the same as the constant aggression of most TvZ specialists in Korea with over 70% winrates. Like Ganzi, Gumiho, MMA. They don't let you breath with constant harass, then they hit with huge macro'd pushes. Not to mention how passive Kas's TvP is. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313883¤tpage=11#216Read up.
I watch Kas stream a fair bit and he doesn't seem like he does that with his armies at all. He just kind of drops, expands and pushes with impeccable macro behind it. If anything, I mostly just see him get all'in'd and die more often than him doing anything particularly good.
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On March 07 2012 19:25 oldahe wrote:
is Zenio playing right now? can we get updates on that? xx
just beat mana 2-0
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Wtf, is IdrA getting outmacro'd by a Protoss?
It's even supply and IdrA has roaches...
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Hey guys, guys.
Less balance discussion/Idra bashing and more LR, please. Not all of us can watch these games.
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Why Idra became worse than he was before he went to Korea?
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Wow how is IdrA not 50 supply ahead? Shouldn't a zerg be close to maxed at this point?
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On March 07 2012 19:28 Meovin- wrote:
Wow how is IdrA not 50 supply ahead? Shouldn't a zerg be close to maxed at this point?
Not if they go mutas. Muta's are 100/100 for 2 supply while Roaches are only 75/25
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Why is feast not scouting the mutas -_-
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Muta vs mass Phoenix? Is Idra on drugs?
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He hasn't been studying DRG at all....these muta's are way too early. He should just roach hydra ling all in Feast right now.
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On March 07 2012 19:27 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 19:24 StarVe wrote:On March 07 2012 19:19 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:15 huehuehuehue wrote:On March 07 2012 19:15 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:12 mordk wrote:On March 07 2012 19:08 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:05 xrapture wrote:On March 07 2012 19:02 Mentalizor wrote:On March 07 2012 19:01 EmilA wrote:
Prediction: All foreign terrans end last in their groups (Kas perhaps second last to Idra.) Due to the fact, you've got a terran portrait, I think I can smell some Terran bias here... Comments on MMA going 10-0? yes, you're right. Another Korean Terran victory in dominating fashion will prove that all of us Terran players problems with Terran are stupid and Terran needs another nerf. So what a foreign Terran hasnt won a major live event in the last 1.5 years, have you seen the GSL? So Foreign Terrans just suck? Mostly yes, at least when compared to koreans. Thorzain and Kas have shown promise though. Foreign terrans seem to only be able to macro or pull of the effective aggressive builds. Korean terrans tend to do both. Kas and Thorzain sort of represent that. Kas can macro, but his aggression is non-existent and it's not like he's got particularly amazing micro. Whereas Thorzaine has really tight builds, and can all-in at any point really keeping you guessing but his macro isn't anything special either. Agression is nonexistant? Have you watched him play TvZ? Yeah, pushing isn't the same as the constant aggression of most TvZ specialists in Korea with over 70% winrates. Like Ganzi, Gumiho, MMA. They don't let you breath with constant harass, then they hit with huge macro'd pushes. Not to mention how passive Kas's TvP is. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313883¤tpage=11#216Read up. I watch Kas stream a fair bit and he doesn't seem like he does that with his armies at all. He just kind of drops, expands and pushes with impeccable macro behind it. If anything, I mostly just see him get all'in'd and die more often than him doing anything particularly good.
Reminds me of someone playing right now. LOL!
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Overlord farm at Idra's rally point. I foresee a huge supply block when Feast pushes.
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EPT
