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Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
March 18 2012 18:35 GMT
#5641
On March 19 2012 03:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:
This fucking balance whining is insufferable. Hey BlinG beats Demuslim AGAIN, must be Protoss rite?

TL is unusually grumpy today.

You should be happy Bling won, people will complain anyway.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 18:36:37
March 18 2012 18:35 GMT
#5642
On March 19 2012 03:34 PaterPatriae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 03:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:
This fucking balance whining is insufferable. Hey BlinG beats Demuslim AGAIN, must be Protoss rite?

TL is unusually grumpy today.


O.O unusually? live threads are a mess every tournement.

LR threads are pretty bad but still not as bad as stream chat which still isn't as bad as Youtube comments which are still not as bad as Facebook. Probably needs 4chan in there too.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
randomdude123
Profile Joined February 2012
Belgium19 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 18:36:16
March 18 2012 18:35 GMT
#5643
tbh i think tvz is harder then tvp coz of the ghost snipe nerf lol and bling had epic battles where he won, whereas demuslim failed in his micro and kept losing shit for no reason.
plox
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
March 18 2012 18:35 GMT
#5644
omg the break inbetween is killing me
IM & EG supporter
RandomAccount#106470
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
March 18 2012 18:36 GMT
#5645
--- Nuked ---
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
March 18 2012 18:36 GMT
#5646
On March 19 2012 03:35 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 03:34 PaterPatriae wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:
This fucking balance whining is insufferable. Hey BlinG beats Demuslim AGAIN, must be Protoss rite?

TL is unusually grumpy today.


O.O unusually? live threads are a mess every tournement.

LR threads are pretty bad but still not as bad as stream chat which still isn't as bad as Youtube comments which are still not as bad as Facebook.


And precisely where does Reddit fit in here?
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
March 18 2012 18:36 GMT
#5647
On March 19 2012 03:35 0ne wrote:
Balance whine overwhelming. Bring the ban hammer!


I didn't see anybody getting banned for whining in a lr thread in a while
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
March 18 2012 18:37 GMT
#5648
On March 19 2012 03:35 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 03:34 PaterPatriae wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:
This fucking balance whining is insufferable. Hey BlinG beats Demuslim AGAIN, must be Protoss rite?

TL is unusually grumpy today.


O.O unusually? live threads are a mess every tournement.

LR threads are pretty bad but still not as bad as stream chat which still isn't as bad as Youtube comments which are still not as bad as Facebook. Probably needs 4chan in there too.


This is true, of all the bad/out of coutrol things TL LR threads are definitely by far the best lol
<3 Moonbattles
Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
March 18 2012 18:37 GMT
#5649
In the spirit of getting back on track: Go go bling vs korean! We believe in you!
The world is ending what should we do about it?
PaterPatriae
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany428 Posts
March 18 2012 18:37 GMT
#5650
On March 19 2012 03:35 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 03:34 PaterPatriae wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:
This fucking balance whining is insufferable. Hey BlinG beats Demuslim AGAIN, must be Protoss rite?

TL is unusually grumpy today.


O.O unusually? live threads are a mess every tournement.

LR threads are pretty bad but still not as bad as stream chat which still isn't as bad as Youtube comments which are still not as bad as Facebook. Probably needs 4chan in there too.


ok you got that point :p
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
March 18 2012 18:37 GMT
#5651
On March 19 2012 03:35 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 03:34 PaterPatriae wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:
This fucking balance whining is insufferable. Hey BlinG beats Demuslim AGAIN, must be Protoss rite?

TL is unusually grumpy today.


O.O unusually? live threads are a mess every tournement.

LR threads are pretty bad but still not as bad as stream chat which still isn't as bad as Youtube comments which are still not as bad as Facebook. Probably needs 4chan in there too.


My friend, you are forgetting the worst place of them all: bnet forums!
I've got moves like Jagger
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
March 18 2012 18:37 GMT
#5652
On March 19 2012 03:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:
This fucking balance whining is insufferable. Hey BlinG beats Demuslim AGAIN, must be Protoss rite?

TL is unusually grumpy today.


Benjamin Baker ‏ @DeMusliM

protoss is actually pretty bullshit. 25m ago


Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
March 18 2012 18:37 GMT
#5653
On March 19 2012 03:36 pPingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 03:35 0ne wrote:
Balance whine overwhelming. Bring the ban hammer!


I didn't see anybody getting banned for whining in a lr thread in a while

Me either, I expect the mods to be preparing a mass banning to all the whiners :-p
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Beastyqt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Serbia516 Posts
March 18 2012 18:38 GMT
#5654
On March 19 2012 03:35 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 03:32 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:25 Type|NarutO wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:24 Toppp wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:14 Type|NarutO wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:12 Toppp wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:08 Fragile51 wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:07 Type|NarutO wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:05 Toppp wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:01 Type|NarutO wrote:
30 3-3 Ghost would have won that fight without much of a problem. Too bad Terrans don't like Ghosts :/.


Rofl. You have no idea. Good luck affording 30 3-3 Ghost AND retaining all of them throughout the game buddy, that's way too unrealistic. Retaining your extremely expensive Ghost during trades/engagements is near impossible, they may be sturdy, but for their cost, not so much.

It's highly impractical/impossible to go pure mass ghost vs Protoss because of cost, supply, and the fact that they have to have support.


I have no clue... okay! Try it first, when I can get to a mass-ghost late game, DemusliM certainly can as well.


Wait what? A pro terran trying new stuff and having to defend himself against forumgoers? x_x wtf am i reading


I might not be pro but I'm high master and I've tryed all sorts of stuff for late game TvP. I know it's just impractical to mass ghost vs Protoss in the late game. Only way to win against a good protoss lategame is to have to have the perfect mix of units and planetarys splitting the map with Nuke Harass and doom drops.


I can send you a replay where a Protoss with nearly unlimited ressources (15000/8000) didn't finish me when he could and couldn't after I got my ghost count up. No amount of colossi nor anything else could save him, everything just emp'ed and cloaked ghosts are durable.

=.=! Why don't you just try it, its not EASY but its do-able.


Against High Level protoss players, you shouldn't win in lategame unless they make a huge mistake, or get a horrible trade and can't remax instantly with their bank.

If you watch how Korean terrans play TvP, their view on the matchup is pretty much end in the early-mid game, If it goes into the late game more than likely you've lost. Find me a Pro replay of a Terran going mass ghost, sure it could be explored.. but it's just not viable unless there are changes to the cost/supply of ghost and their overall attributes.


EmpireHappy, go find replays yourself.

to name you one. EmpireHappy vs CreatorPrime -> Terminus. Huge macro game. Ghosts fucked Creator badly and you don't want to argue that Creator is bad in PvT, do you?


Before ghost nerf that game was played -_-, im pretty sure I know what both Kas and Happy think about TvP since im in team with them.


Ghost deal enourmous amounts of damage to light units (zealot) which is what Protoss does remax with usually. They can nullify shields of all units and with the count you got, you can make colossi shields, archon shields all evaporate in a second. Please Beastyqt, you are good enough to know that I'm not just calling bullshit here.

Its viable even if its hard to get there. Happy snipes left over zealots, but usually didn't snipe while fighting the main engagement. He still uses that style as well... so-_-


Im not denying 30 ghosts and 16 vikings and some rines would be sick vs protoss army, BUT thats like saying why doesnt protoss make 20 archons, 6 colossus, 10 hts with storm and 15 immortals? Its too expencive and its possible ONLY on maps that you can split map or defend your main base from your 4-5th base like terminus/shakuras, otherwise you will be picked apart

200/200 Mech with tanks and ghosts is pretty sick too vs toss I wont lie, but try getting there.
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mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
March 18 2012 18:38 GMT
#5655
was bitter a big time BW player?
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
March 18 2012 18:38 GMT
#5656
After Bling vs Heaven I am getting a bit conflicted with whom to root for. I want all of them to win :D .
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
March 18 2012 18:38 GMT
#5657
On March 19 2012 03:36 pPingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 03:35 0ne wrote:
Balance whine overwhelming. Bring the ban hammer!


I didn't see anybody getting banned for whining in a lr thread in a while

I got banned for whining about mules on Assembly -_-
huehuehuehue
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Estonia455 Posts
March 18 2012 18:39 GMT
#5658
Hey Naruto, can you give me that ghost TvP replay? It seems good as an idea, but i wonder how will it fare against a protoss who is agressive.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
March 18 2012 18:39 GMT
#5659
On March 19 2012 03:37 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 03:35 Kevan wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:34 PaterPatriae wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:
This fucking balance whining is insufferable. Hey BlinG beats Demuslim AGAIN, must be Protoss rite?

TL is unusually grumpy today.


O.O unusually? live threads are a mess every tournement.

LR threads are pretty bad but still not as bad as stream chat which still isn't as bad as Youtube comments which are still not as bad as Facebook. Probably needs 4chan in there too.


My friend, you are forgetting the worst place of them all: bnet forums!

Yeah, those forums are worse than everything.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 18 2012 18:39 GMT
#5660
On March 19 2012 03:38 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 03:35 Type|NarutO wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:32 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:25 Type|NarutO wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:24 Toppp wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:14 Type|NarutO wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:12 Toppp wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:08 Fragile51 wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:07 Type|NarutO wrote:
On March 19 2012 03:05 Toppp wrote:
[quote]

Rofl. You have no idea. Good luck affording 30 3-3 Ghost AND retaining all of them throughout the game buddy, that's way too unrealistic. Retaining your extremely expensive Ghost during trades/engagements is near impossible, they may be sturdy, but for their cost, not so much.

It's highly impractical/impossible to go pure mass ghost vs Protoss because of cost, supply, and the fact that they have to have support.


I have no clue... okay! Try it first, when I can get to a mass-ghost late game, DemusliM certainly can as well.


Wait what? A pro terran trying new stuff and having to defend himself against forumgoers? x_x wtf am i reading


I might not be pro but I'm high master and I've tryed all sorts of stuff for late game TvP. I know it's just impractical to mass ghost vs Protoss in the late game. Only way to win against a good protoss lategame is to have to have the perfect mix of units and planetarys splitting the map with Nuke Harass and doom drops.


I can send you a replay where a Protoss with nearly unlimited ressources (15000/8000) didn't finish me when he could and couldn't after I got my ghost count up. No amount of colossi nor anything else could save him, everything just emp'ed and cloaked ghosts are durable.

=.=! Why don't you just try it, its not EASY but its do-able.


Against High Level protoss players, you shouldn't win in lategame unless they make a huge mistake, or get a horrible trade and can't remax instantly with their bank.

If you watch how Korean terrans play TvP, their view on the matchup is pretty much end in the early-mid game, If it goes into the late game more than likely you've lost. Find me a Pro replay of a Terran going mass ghost, sure it could be explored.. but it's just not viable unless there are changes to the cost/supply of ghost and their overall attributes.


EmpireHappy, go find replays yourself.

to name you one. EmpireHappy vs CreatorPrime -> Terminus. Huge macro game. Ghosts fucked Creator badly and you don't want to argue that Creator is bad in PvT, do you?


Before ghost nerf that game was played -_-, im pretty sure I know what both Kas and Happy think about TvP since im in team with them.


Ghost deal enourmous amounts of damage to light units (zealot) which is what Protoss does remax with usually. They can nullify shields of all units and with the count you got, you can make colossi shields, archon shields all evaporate in a second. Please Beastyqt, you are good enough to know that I'm not just calling bullshit here.

Its viable even if its hard to get there. Happy snipes left over zealots, but usually didn't snipe while fighting the main engagement. He still uses that style as well... so-_-


Im not denying 30 ghosts and 16 vikings and some rines would be sick vs protoss army, BUT thats like saying why doesnt protoss make 20 archons, 6 colossus, 10 hts with storm and 15 immortals? Its too expencive and its possible ONLY on maps that you can split map or defend your main base from your 4-5th base like terminus/shakuras, otherwise you will be picked apart

200/200 Mech with tanks and ghosts is pretty sick too vs toss I wont lie, but try getting there.


I am 100% with you that its very hard and not viable any map, yet... what can we do ;-)! Need to get there!
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