EPTOn March 19 2012 03:39 Type|NarutO wrote:
I am 100% with you that its very hard and not viable any map, yet... what can we do ;-)! Need to get there!
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On March 19 2012 03:38 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
Im not denying 30 ghosts and 16 vikings and some rines would be sick vs protoss army, BUT thats like saying why doesnt protoss make 20 archons, 6 colossus, 10 hts with storm and 15 immortals? Its too expencive and its possible ONLY on maps that you can split map or defend your main base from your 4-5th base like terminus/shakuras, otherwise you will be picked apart
200/200 Mech with tanks and ghosts is pretty sick too vs toss I wont lie, but try getting there.
On March 19 2012 03:35 Type|NarutO wrote:
Ghost deal enourmous amounts of damage to light units (zealot) which is what Protoss does remax with usually. They can nullify shields of all units and with the count you got, you can make colossi shields, archon shields all evaporate in a second. Please Beastyqt, you are good enough to know that I'm not just calling bullshit here.
Its viable even if its hard to get there. Happy snipes left over zealots, but usually didn't snipe while fighting the main engagement. He still uses that style as well... so-_-
On March 19 2012 03:32 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
Before ghost nerf that game was played -_-, im pretty sure I know what both Kas and Happy think about TvP since im in team with them.
On March 19 2012 03:25 Type|NarutO wrote:
EmpireHappy, go find replays yourself.
to name you one. EmpireHappy vs CreatorPrime -> Terminus. Huge macro game. Ghosts fucked Creator badly and you don't want to argue that Creator is bad in PvT, do you?
On March 19 2012 03:24 Toppp wrote:
Against High Level protoss players, you shouldn't win in lategame unless they make a huge mistake, or get a horrible trade and can't remax instantly with their bank.
If you watch how Korean terrans play TvP, their view on the matchup is pretty much end in the early-mid game, If it goes into the late game more than likely you've lost. Find me a Pro replay of a Terran going mass ghost, sure it could be explored.. but it's just not viable unless there are changes to the cost/supply of ghost and their overall attributes.
On March 19 2012 03:14 Type|NarutO wrote:
I can send you a replay where a Protoss with nearly unlimited ressources (15000/8000) didn't finish me when he could and couldn't after I got my ghost count up. No amount of colossi nor anything else could save him, everything just emp'ed and cloaked ghosts are durable.
=.=! Why don't you just try it, its not EASY but its do-able.
On March 19 2012 03:12 Toppp wrote:
I might not be pro but I'm high master and I've tryed all sorts of stuff for late game TvP. I know it's just impractical to mass ghost vs Protoss in the late game. Only way to win against a good protoss lategame is to have to have the perfect mix of units and planetarys splitting the map with Nuke Harass and doom drops.
On March 19 2012 03:08 Fragile51 wrote:
Wait what? A pro terran trying new stuff and having to defend himself against forumgoers? x_x wtf am i reading
On March 19 2012 03:07 Type|NarutO wrote:
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I have no clue... okay! Try it first, when I can get to a mass-ghost late game, DemusliM certainly can as well.
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I have no clue... okay! Try it first, when I can get to a mass-ghost late game, DemusliM certainly can as well.
Wait what? A pro terran trying new stuff and having to defend himself against forumgoers? x_x wtf am i reading
I might not be pro but I'm high master and I've tryed all sorts of stuff for late game TvP. I know it's just impractical to mass ghost vs Protoss in the late game. Only way to win against a good protoss lategame is to have to have the perfect mix of units and planetarys splitting the map with Nuke Harass and doom drops.
I can send you a replay where a Protoss with nearly unlimited ressources (15000/8000) didn't finish me when he could and couldn't after I got my ghost count up. No amount of colossi nor anything else could save him, everything just emp'ed and cloaked ghosts are durable.
=.=! Why don't you just try it, its not EASY but its do-able.
Against High Level protoss players, you shouldn't win in lategame unless they make a huge mistake, or get a horrible trade and can't remax instantly with their bank.
If you watch how Korean terrans play TvP, their view on the matchup is pretty much end in the early-mid game, If it goes into the late game more than likely you've lost. Find me a Pro replay of a Terran going mass ghost, sure it could be explored.. but it's just not viable unless there are changes to the cost/supply of ghost and their overall attributes.
EmpireHappy, go find replays yourself.
to name you one. EmpireHappy vs CreatorPrime -> Terminus. Huge macro game. Ghosts fucked Creator badly and you don't want to argue that Creator is bad in PvT, do you?
Before ghost nerf that game was played -_-, im pretty sure I know what both Kas and Happy think about TvP since im in team with them.
Ghost deal enourmous amounts of damage to light units (zealot) which is what Protoss does remax with usually. They can nullify shields of all units and with the count you got, you can make colossi shields, archon shields all evaporate in a second. Please Beastyqt, you are good enough to know that I'm not just calling bullshit here.
Its viable even if its hard to get there. Happy snipes left over zealots, but usually didn't snipe while fighting the main engagement. He still uses that style as well... so-_-
Im not denying 30 ghosts and 16 vikings and some rines would be sick vs protoss army, BUT thats like saying why doesnt protoss make 20 archons, 6 colossus, 10 hts with storm and 15 immortals? Its too expencive and its possible ONLY on maps that you can split map or defend your main base from your 4-5th base like terminus/shakuras, otherwise you will be picked apart
200/200 Mech with tanks and ghosts is pretty sick too vs toss I wont lie, but try getting there.
I am 100% with you that its very hard and not viable any map, yet... what can we do ;-)! Need to get there!
Huh. A refreshing breath of positivity in this LR thread :D
