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On February 14 2012 12:18 iNcontroL wrote:
I actually just need to stop responding to you. Everyone? Sorry for my momentary lapse, I will stop feeding this troll I promise. nvs. please continue to stalk me! It won't get you any more replies.
Ok well hopefully SOMEBODY will clear up alex's big blog and how this relates to Idra. I'm sorry you couldn't help out.
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Thank you NASL for giving more money to Koreans and making foreigners look like noobs. Looking forward to seeing more of the same in season 3. GG
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On February 14 2012 12:08 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 10:47 nvs. wrote:On February 14 2012 10:04 Kamais Ookin wrote:
iNcontroL, why are you silent? You were pretty loud back when Naniwa did similar things... So was alex, just read that blog. XD Of course they will clam up when it directly affects themselves though, I wouldn't expect any less. haha you guys are hilarious.. nvs. is my favorite obsessed troll ALWAYS following me around and saying something snarky. Stay classy bro! EG is not happy obviously.. IdrA knows this is wrong and it's being dealt with. NASL hasn't called for an apology nor has Fnatic. This is NOT the same as the Naniwa situation for obvious reasons.. it's bad, nobody would say otherwise but it is nowhere near what Naniwa did.
Yeah, its not the same.
Nani threw a meaningless game.
Idra threw a meaningful game.
You can argue how Nani was not even trying. But especially Idras 2nd sixpool is really no difference. Alive even called him out on that and Idra left once he saw the wall-in.
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On February 14 2012 12:08 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 10:47 nvs. wrote:On February 14 2012 10:04 Kamais Ookin wrote:
iNcontroL, why are you silent? You were pretty loud back when Naniwa did similar things... So was alex, just read that blog. XD Of course they will clam up when it directly affects themselves though, I wouldn't expect any less. haha you guys are hilarious.. nvs. is my favorite obsessed troll ALWAYS following me around and saying something snarky. Stay classy bro! EG is not happy obviously.. IdrA knows this is wrong and it's being dealt with. NASL hasn't called for an apology nor has Fnatic. This is NOT the same as the Naniwa situation for obvious reasons.. it's bad, nobody would say otherwise but it is nowhere near what Naniwa did.
It's worse than Naniwa in my opinion. Naniwa probe rushed in a meaningless game. Idra 6 pooled twice, essentially throwing the game away twice, in a series where he stood to make a guaranteed $100. He got paid for pretty much just showing up, while Naniwa made nothing for his outburst.
Yes, I know Xeris said Idra gave the money back, but the principle is the same. Would he have done it if there weren't a public outcry? I doubt it.
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Let's be honest here. Even if Idra did try, it would have still been a clean sweep and most probably just as bad games
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On February 14 2012 12:26 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 12:08 iNcontroL wrote:On February 14 2012 10:47 nvs. wrote:On February 14 2012 10:04 Kamais Ookin wrote:
iNcontroL, why are you silent? You were pretty loud back when Naniwa did similar things... So was alex, just read that blog. XD Of course they will clam up when it directly affects themselves though, I wouldn't expect any less. haha you guys are hilarious.. nvs. is my favorite obsessed troll ALWAYS following me around and saying something snarky. Stay classy bro! EG is not happy obviously.. IdrA knows this is wrong and it's being dealt with. NASL hasn't called for an apology nor has Fnatic. This is NOT the same as the Naniwa situation for obvious reasons.. it's bad, nobody would say otherwise but it is nowhere near what Naniwa did. It's worse than Naniwa in my opinion. Naniwa probe rushed in a meaningless game. Idra 6 pooled twice, essentially throwing the game away twice, in a series where he stood to make a guaranteed $100. He got paid for pretty much just showing up, while Naniwa made nothing for his outburst. Yes, I know Xeris said Idra gave the money back, but the principle is the same. Would he have done it if there weren't a public outcry? I doubt it.
Naniwa was paid to attend that tournament; he wasn't there for free. Knowing that, both situations end up being rather similar (both players just phoning it in since they were going to be paid anyway). Whether one is worse than the other, I guess is up to one's opinion. I honestly don't care which is worse; I'd prefer if things like this never happen at all.
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On February 14 2012 12:18 iNcontroL wrote:
I actually just need to stop responding to you. Everyone? Sorry for my momentary lapse, I will stop feeding this troll I promise. nvs. please continue to stalk me! It won't get you any more replies.
Can you reply to me instead? I feel special when pros I like actually reply to me :D
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On February 14 2012 12:48 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 12:26 Dexington wrote:On February 14 2012 12:08 iNcontroL wrote:On February 14 2012 10:47 nvs. wrote:On February 14 2012 10:04 Kamais Ookin wrote:
iNcontroL, why are you silent? You were pretty loud back when Naniwa did similar things... So was alex, just read that blog. XD Of course they will clam up when it directly affects themselves though, I wouldn't expect any less. haha you guys are hilarious.. nvs. is my favorite obsessed troll ALWAYS following me around and saying something snarky. Stay classy bro! EG is not happy obviously.. IdrA knows this is wrong and it's being dealt with. NASL hasn't called for an apology nor has Fnatic. This is NOT the same as the Naniwa situation for obvious reasons.. it's bad, nobody would say otherwise but it is nowhere near what Naniwa did. It's worse than Naniwa in my opinion. Naniwa probe rushed in a meaningless game. Idra 6 pooled twice, essentially throwing the game away twice, in a series where he stood to make a guaranteed $100. He got paid for pretty much just showing up, while Naniwa made nothing for his outburst. Yes, I know Xeris said Idra gave the money back, but the principle is the same. Would he have done it if there weren't a public outcry? I doubt it. Naniwa was paid to attend that tournament; he wasn't there for free. Knowing that, both situations end up being rather similar (both players just phoning it in since they were going to be paid anyway). Whether one is worse than the other, I guess is up to one's opinion. I honestly don't care which is worse; I'd prefer if things like this never happen at all.
Nani was out, he couldnt advance and win more money (so was Nestea). In previous cases (up&downs) GSL didnt play out meaningless matches. Thats what annoyed Nani.
Idra could still win.
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These threads prove day[9] wrong when he says the sc community is a good bunch. The idea of how you should act is so strong with too many people ... and in a multinational community ... makes me want to puke ...
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On February 14 2012 13:12 00Visor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 12:48 lichter wrote:On February 14 2012 12:26 Dexington wrote:On February 14 2012 12:08 iNcontroL wrote:On February 14 2012 10:47 nvs. wrote:On February 14 2012 10:04 Kamais Ookin wrote:
iNcontroL, why are you silent? You were pretty loud back when Naniwa did similar things... So was alex, just read that blog. XD Of course they will clam up when it directly affects themselves though, I wouldn't expect any less. haha you guys are hilarious.. nvs. is my favorite obsessed troll ALWAYS following me around and saying something snarky. Stay classy bro! EG is not happy obviously.. IdrA knows this is wrong and it's being dealt with. NASL hasn't called for an apology nor has Fnatic. This is NOT the same as the Naniwa situation for obvious reasons.. it's bad, nobody would say otherwise but it is nowhere near what Naniwa did. It's worse than Naniwa in my opinion. Naniwa probe rushed in a meaningless game. Idra 6 pooled twice, essentially throwing the game away twice, in a series where he stood to make a guaranteed $100. He got paid for pretty much just showing up, while Naniwa made nothing for his outburst. Yes, I know Xeris said Idra gave the money back, but the principle is the same. Would he have done it if there weren't a public outcry? I doubt it. Naniwa was paid to attend that tournament; he wasn't there for free. Knowing that, both situations end up being rather similar (both players just phoning it in since they were going to be paid anyway). Whether one is worse than the other, I guess is up to one's opinion. I honestly don't care which is worse; I'd prefer if things like this never happen at all. Nani was out, he couldnt advance and win more money (so was Nestea). In previous cases (up&downs) GSL didnt play out meaningless matches. Thats what annoyed Nani. Idra could still win.
I know; I didn't say that one or the other was somehow better. I just wanted to dispute the idea that Idra threw the games away because he was gauranteed money anyway. I am not defending him, just wanted it to be clear that their situations, at least in terms of being paid, were similar. Obviously Idra still had a chance to win while Nani only had pride to play for so again it's up to you which is worse.
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On February 14 2012 13:14 Ravnemesteren wrote:
These threads prove day[9] wrong when he says the sc community is a good bunch. The idea of how you should act is so strong with too many people ... and in a multinational community ... makes me want to puke ...
So because nobody really agrees with you we are all a bad bunch. Funny how that works.
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iNcontroL quoted me, I feel so fucking special right now! I accept his words!
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Idk about you guys but I was really excited to watch this show match. I have little "free" time. With that free time I don't play SC2 I watch SC2. IdrA always has a place in my heart but man does he need some help with his professional impetus. The first 3 games are the reasons IdrA has stated the game is off kilter.
It's sad to see a player with such an unique view of the game being beat down by himself more than the game.
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On February 14 2012 13:52 MaBe wrote:
Idk about you guys but I was really excited to watch this show match. I have little "free" time. With that free time I don't play SC2 I watch SC2. IdrA always has a place in my heart but man does he need some help with his professional impetus. The first 3 games are the reasons IdrA has stated the game is off kilter.
It's sad to see a player with such an unique view of the game being beat down by himself more than the game.
Yeah honestly, there is SO MUCH sc2 being broadcasted every night. When I heard that Idra was facing Alive, I even made my gf sit through it. Well she was happy...it was over quicker than it began. Never felt so robbed of my time. I feel terrible for the NASL and all the other tourny organizers who have to put up with these sc2 divas as they really give the scene a black eye. I was already not big on idra due to his behavior but I really wanted to see what he was capable of vs a top 3 terran on equal server footing. I was rooting for him to win it an somehow make me a fan again but damn it never felt so bad to be so right. SO once again, why should I bother watching idra next time hes featured in anything with everything else that is broadcasted daily?
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On February 14 2012 12:08 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 10:47 nvs. wrote:On February 14 2012 10:04 Kamais Ookin wrote:
iNcontroL, why are you silent? You were pretty loud back when Naniwa did similar things... So was alex, just read that blog. XD Of course they will clam up when it directly affects themselves though, I wouldn't expect any less. haha you guys are hilarious.. nvs. is my favorite obsessed troll ALWAYS following me around and saying something snarky. Stay classy bro! EG is not happy obviously.. IdrA knows this is wrong and it's being dealt with. NASL hasn't called for an apology nor has Fnatic. This is NOT the same as the Naniwa situation for obvious reasons.. it's bad, nobody would say otherwise but it is nowhere near what Naniwa did.
Really? Should've just stopped at 'IdrA knows it's wrong...'
Because:
1) Who cares if NASL or Fnatic called for an apology? What does that have to do with anything?
2) You're right. It's worse than what Naniwa did.
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Leave EG and incontrol alone. EG is a classy organization, and I would not at all be shocked if idra finds himself without a team soon if this pattern of behavior continues.
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On February 14 2012 02:51 Strivers wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 00:50 MrCon wrote:
The problem is that those are not isolated incidents anymore.
One year ago you'd have the occasional Idra early gg but he was still playing well in general.
Now if you watch the last 20 Idra's games, they're all the same bullshit.
His fans trying to rationalize all of this is what hurting the most imo. So Idra was right to do that because aLive 11/11'ed him ? And what about every single zerg, even foreign ones, who manage to not die from this and bring the game to the mid or late part ? What about every single zerg except Idra knows how to defend from the hellion build ? If you replace Idra with someone like even Destiny, the first 2 games will go at least to the midgame. Nobody but Idra dies to this. Losira often loses his hatch to the 11/11, he's notoriously bad at defending it, but he still win the game a good % of the time after losing his hatch.
Last year Idra had the skill excuse, now he's one of the worst players in the scene skill wise. He doesn't realize how lucky he is to be able to live in the Slayers house. This guy is a disgrace. Best post in the thread.
sigh ... It isn't hard to imagine someone like Destiny making a game of it.
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On February 14 2012 12:25 00Visor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 12:08 iNcontroL wrote:On February 14 2012 10:47 nvs. wrote:On February 14 2012 10:04 Kamais Ookin wrote:
iNcontroL, why are you silent? You were pretty loud back when Naniwa did similar things... So was alex, just read that blog. XD Of course they will clam up when it directly affects themselves though, I wouldn't expect any less. haha you guys are hilarious.. nvs. is my favorite obsessed troll ALWAYS following me around and saying something snarky. Stay classy bro! EG is not happy obviously.. IdrA knows this is wrong and it's being dealt with. NASL hasn't called for an apology nor has Fnatic. This is NOT the same as the Naniwa situation for obvious reasons.. it's bad, nobody would say otherwise but it is nowhere near what Naniwa did. Yeah, its not the same. Nani threw a meaningless game. Idra threw a meaningful game. You can argue how Nani was not even trying. But especially Idras 2nd sixpool is really no difference. Alive even called him out on that and Idra left once he saw the wall-in.
How were idra's games meaningless? He still had a chance to win the showmatch. Naniwa however was already eliminated...
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On February 14 2012 14:31 Yamulo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 12:25 00Visor wrote:On February 14 2012 12:08 iNcontroL wrote:On February 14 2012 10:47 nvs. wrote:On February 14 2012 10:04 Kamais Ookin wrote:
iNcontroL, why are you silent? You were pretty loud back when Naniwa did similar things... So was alex, just read that blog. XD Of course they will clam up when it directly affects themselves though, I wouldn't expect any less. haha you guys are hilarious.. nvs. is my favorite obsessed troll ALWAYS following me around and saying something snarky. Stay classy bro! EG is not happy obviously.. IdrA knows this is wrong and it's being dealt with. NASL hasn't called for an apology nor has Fnatic. This is NOT the same as the Naniwa situation for obvious reasons.. it's bad, nobody would say otherwise but it is nowhere near what Naniwa did. Yeah, its not the same. Nani threw a meaningless game. Idra threw a meaningful game. You can argue how Nani was not even trying. But especially Idras 2nd sixpool is really no difference. Alive even called him out on that and Idra left once he saw the wall-in. How were idra's games meaningless? He still had a chance to win the showmatch. Naniwa however was already eliminated...
/facepalm ... reread his post, pls
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