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On February 14 2012 09:34 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 09:28 Ravnemesteren wrote:On February 14 2012 09:13 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 14 2012 09:03 Ravnemesteren wrote:On February 14 2012 08:41 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 14 2012 08:16 Ravnemesteren wrote:On February 14 2012 08:13 Talack wrote:On February 14 2012 08:07 Ravnemesteren wrote:
So many weird opinions here. I mostly agree IdrA tilted. But the outrage is idiotic! Friggin idiotic! Lucky can double 6 pool MMA (yeah MMA), and eliminate him from the mlg qualifiers. But if IdrA does it, without typing gg (when does he ever gg when he doesnt have to ... think about it) ... and he looses ... then shitstorm on every sc2 forum. People are dumb. Especially alot of sc2 fans. You really have no idea what's going on do you : / You're ethier incredibly ignorant or trolling. Yeah I just love smart answers like that (heavy, heavy saracastic drawl). If you want to point of why I am so wrong, you need to actually do it ... or else you seem very clueless. You got the heavy sarcastic drawl because, what you try and argue has been beaten to death in this thread. Lucky 6 pooled where it was viable, he did it well and weighed the options and thought he could win. Idra just simply didn't give a shit. he dropped a pool and ran his lings across the map, little to no micro. He threw the games. Lucky 6 pooled but he did as a calculated strategy to beat a better opponent. Idra 6 pooled because he didn't give a shit and didn't want to play out the series. If you can't see the difference between these two situations there is no hope for you. Also why would you expect any real response when you end with "People are dumb. Especially alot of sc2 fans". Now you have to go back to my post that got targeted. I said I mainly agree that IdrA tilted. Okay. So if you are tilted you can do a pretty strong strategy by 6 pooling. He didnt calculate it, but it can work. So its frigging not the same as giving up. He could have 6 pooled better ofcourse. But TONS of players change up how they want to play and play, under par. Thats just what happened (probably, I won't claim I know what actually happened like you do). IdrA seems like I guy that can get tilted damn hard and play way below his standard. So its better to try to end it early with a smaller percentage chance if you feel you get that mad (thats my opinion at least if he actually got mad). And why the frigging uproar? If guy gets tilted and does a legit strat, but he doesnt do it as well as it could be done.... pfff, then TL has become tons worse than blizz forums ever was... games like occur ALL the time. Stop acting like crazy, little, self, entitled, idiots just because someone didnt conform to the standard GG, robot, korean way of acting. You guys need to lighten up Lol wow... and this is why you receive sarcastic drawl. You pretty much ignore/twist what I say into some bullshit. The point here is their is a huge difference between the way Lucky 6 pooled and the way Idra 6 pooled. Idra basically quit and said fuck you to NASL and to the fans. So I guess I'm a crazy self entitled idiot because I want a player to do what he is fucking paid to do and not be a little baby about it.... I don't expect all players to be robots and GG all the time(Though realistically they are supposed to be professionals and probably should anyway....). but you're invited to do a show match, at least try and show some resemblance of respect, if not to Alive at least to NASL who picked you out of hundreds of players who would love the chance to play those games. Jesus, read TEXT neanderthal. If someone tilts they WONT PLAY THEIR BEST. I wish some people would have the fucking ability to think logically. Dude. Some players tilt.. and you know what? They won't play their best. So you can't just say they should have done this or that. And if you do, you are a friggin robot. "Try something with a resemblence of respect". Look at that sentence. Couldn't you point out what he should have done like other knowitalls ... no ofcourse not ... cuz you dont know. And damn. Why are you trying to skew what i said. I don't understand why we get all the uproar. If a player doesnt play as expected, or as good as we wanted, we can't complain..... and GOD FORBID they show some negative emotion. EDIT: fuck it, I am prolly getting trolled, but I am too drunk to understand it. If so props to you mr troll lol are you serious? Tilting and not playing your best is one thing. Rage quitting and throwing away a series is a complete other thing.... this is getting out of hand for a thread. When you sober up if you want to continue discussing this PM me....
Let me turn it around then? Does IdrA ever GG if he doesnt have to? Do you know how he plays if he is tilted? And since 6 pooling can work, can you see why a tilted person would choose that as a last resort? And lastly, do you know his psyche? How it actually works? Is it proved in this thread of pro's that what he did was totally useless (yes mos't can prolly agree it wasnt optimal at all, but you are acting black and white and not trying to see the grey)
Now you just made me want to continue the conversation. Even if you are trolling (Cuz it kinda seems since you never have any proper arguments, you just act like a 12 year old and say stuff like: Thats all you got!.)
And please come with a proper answer this time instead of just saying something similar to: Your bad. Cuz its childish
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I may be going against my own advice here, but seriously - if you don't like this kind of behaviour form players, just stop posting in the damn thread.
Don't give it more free attention than it deserves, and don't argue with people who are only here to defend a player they are hardcore fans of. -_-
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On February 14 2012 09:45 Ravnemesteren wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 09:34 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 14 2012 09:28 Ravnemesteren wrote:On February 14 2012 09:13 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 14 2012 09:03 Ravnemesteren wrote:On February 14 2012 08:41 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 14 2012 08:16 Ravnemesteren wrote:On February 14 2012 08:13 Talack wrote:On February 14 2012 08:07 Ravnemesteren wrote:
So many weird opinions here. I mostly agree IdrA tilted. But the outrage is idiotic! Friggin idiotic! Lucky can double 6 pool MMA (yeah MMA), and eliminate him from the mlg qualifiers. But if IdrA does it, without typing gg (when does he ever gg when he doesnt have to ... think about it) ... and he looses ... then shitstorm on every sc2 forum. People are dumb. Especially alot of sc2 fans. You really have no idea what's going on do you : / You're ethier incredibly ignorant or trolling. Yeah I just love smart answers like that (heavy, heavy saracastic drawl). If you want to point of why I am so wrong, you need to actually do it ... or else you seem very clueless. You got the heavy sarcastic drawl because, what you try and argue has been beaten to death in this thread. Lucky 6 pooled where it was viable, he did it well and weighed the options and thought he could win. Idra just simply didn't give a shit. he dropped a pool and ran his lings across the map, little to no micro. He threw the games. Lucky 6 pooled but he did as a calculated strategy to beat a better opponent. Idra 6 pooled because he didn't give a shit and didn't want to play out the series. If you can't see the difference between these two situations there is no hope for you. Also why would you expect any real response when you end with "People are dumb. Especially alot of sc2 fans". Now you have to go back to my post that got targeted. I said I mainly agree that IdrA tilted. Okay. So if you are tilted you can do a pretty strong strategy by 6 pooling. He didnt calculate it, but it can work. So its frigging not the same as giving up. He could have 6 pooled better ofcourse. But TONS of players change up how they want to play and play, under par. Thats just what happened (probably, I won't claim I know what actually happened like you do). IdrA seems like I guy that can get tilted damn hard and play way below his standard. So its better to try to end it early with a smaller percentage chance if you feel you get that mad (thats my opinion at least if he actually got mad). And why the frigging uproar? If guy gets tilted and does a legit strat, but he doesnt do it as well as it could be done.... pfff, then TL has become tons worse than blizz forums ever was... games like occur ALL the time. Stop acting like crazy, little, self, entitled, idiots just because someone didnt conform to the standard GG, robot, korean way of acting. You guys need to lighten up Lol wow... and this is why you receive sarcastic drawl. You pretty much ignore/twist what I say into some bullshit. The point here is their is a huge difference between the way Lucky 6 pooled and the way Idra 6 pooled. Idra basically quit and said fuck you to NASL and to the fans. So I guess I'm a crazy self entitled idiot because I want a player to do what he is fucking paid to do and not be a little baby about it.... I don't expect all players to be robots and GG all the time(Though realistically they are supposed to be professionals and probably should anyway....). but you're invited to do a show match, at least try and show some resemblance of respect, if not to Alive at least to NASL who picked you out of hundreds of players who would love the chance to play those games. Jesus, read TEXT neanderthal. If someone tilts they WONT PLAY THEIR BEST. I wish some people would have the fucking ability to think logically. Dude. Some players tilt.. and you know what? They won't play their best. So you can't just say they should have done this or that. And if you do, you are a friggin robot. "Try something with a resemblence of respect". Look at that sentence. Couldn't you point out what he should have done like other knowitalls ... no ofcourse not ... cuz you dont know. And damn. Why are you trying to skew what i said. I don't understand why we get all the uproar. If a player doesnt play as expected, or as good as we wanted, we can't complain..... and GOD FORBID they show some negative emotion. EDIT: fuck it, I am prolly getting trolled, but I am too drunk to understand it. If so props to you mr troll lol are you serious? Tilting and not playing your best is one thing. Rage quitting and throwing away a series is a complete other thing.... this is getting out of hand for a thread. When you sober up if you want to continue discussing this PM me.... Let me turn it around then? Does IdrA ever GG if he doesnt have to? Do you know how he plays if he is tilted? And since 6 pooling can work, can you see why a tilted person would choose that as a last resort? And lastly, do you know his psyche? How it actually works? Is it proved in this thread of pro's that what he did was totally useless (yes mos't can prolly agree it wasnt optimal at all, but you are acting black and white and not trying to see the grey) Now you just made me want to continue the conversation. Even if you are trolling (Cuz it kinda seems since you never have any proper arguments, you just act like a 12 year old and say stuff like: Thats all you got!.) And please come with a proper answer this time instead of just saying something similar to: Your bad. Cuz its childish
This is not the place for this argument any more, I PM'd you....
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On February 14 2012 09:46 Talin wrote:
I may be going against my own advice here, but seriously - if you don't like this kind of behaviour form players, just stop posting in the damn thread.
Don't give it more free attention than it deserves, and don't argue with people who are only here to defend a player they are hardcore fans of. -_-
But someone on an internet forum is wrong! I can't just let that kind of thing go!!!
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Idra is lucky mlg just went PPV all this negative attention will die down.
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iNcontroL, why are you silent? You were pretty loud back when Naniwa did similar things...
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On February 14 2012 10:04 Kamais Ookin wrote:
iNcontroL, why are you silent? You were pretty loud back when Naniwa did similar things...
Of course he is silent.... what do you expect, his options are bash his good friend and team mate, go back on everything he said about Naniwa and look like hypocrite or stay silent.. Incontrol is a smart man and is most likely going to choose option 3.
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On February 14 2012 10:04 Kamais Ookin wrote:
iNcontroL, why are you silent? You were pretty loud back when Naniwa did similar things...
Because he has nothing to say? that's what silent means, you just wait till the next state of the game it will come up you will have your answer.
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On February 14 2012 10:04 Kamais Ookin wrote:
iNcontroL, why are you silent? You were pretty loud back when Naniwa did similar things...
So was alex, just read that blog. XD
Of course they will clam up when it directly affects themselves though, I wouldn't expect any less.
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On February 13 2012 15:09 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 15:02 Brootalbro wrote:On February 13 2012 14:59 Love and Justice wrote:On February 13 2012 14:54 lichter wrote:On February 13 2012 14:50 BronzeKnee wrote:On February 13 2012 14:49 Waxangel wrote:On February 13 2012 14:47 Fionn wrote:
If someone had shown you these four games without showing you who is playing who, everyone would go, 'Oh, that's Idra playing.' so true T_T This would be a fun game. I think people wouldn't be able to recognize who is who. Has 90 drones at 9 minutes? Ret! 1/1/1? Puma! Zerg 2base all-in vs Protoss FE? Leenock! Weird Protoss Strategy that should never work but does? Kiwikaki! Hilarious in-game manner chat? WhiteRa! Early gg, no gg? Idra! See that wasn't so hard XD Add Protoss who 2-base all-in in every game - MC Knowing everything and does everything right - NesTea. Wins the tournament - Mvp If you showed me Genius vs. Nestea from the Ro16, I would have thought Nestea was some Code B player.
Fionn responded to me! I feel loved.
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I found this quote from Alex's blog to be extremely relevant to this situation. Obviously replace Naniwa with Idra.
Some of you may see my comments as an overreaction, or as blowing things out of proportion - does one probe rush really warrant all of this text? I think so, and I believe that my comments hold an appropriate amount of concern. NaNiwa is one of the most famous players in all of StarCraft 2. He receives a significant salary from his professional team. The tournament in which he was competing was run by the world's most prestigious StarCraft 2 league, whose audience contains a greater percentage of paying subscribers than any other league. But, even with everyone around him meeting their respective obligations - with his team supporting him; with the league providing his playing field and broadcasting his match; and with the community watching advertisements and purchasing subscriptions - the system won't work unless NaNi also meets his obligations.
Against NesTea, NaNiwa didn't do his part. That's why I find his actions to be unacceptable. And that's why you should, too.
NaNi, you're an incredible player, with thousands upon thousands of fans who just want to see you play. Next time, play.
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I dont doubt for a second that Alex is handling this situation as we speak. EG is a business and as such they will not put up with this behavior.
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On February 14 2012 10:04 Kamais Ookin wrote:
iNcontroL, why are you silent? You were pretty loud back when Naniwa did similar things...
And I'm sure his stance on such behavior hasn't changed. Just because he's not saying anything doesn't mean he supports what Idra did. However, there's a difference between publicly criticizing another player and publicly criticizing your teammate.
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guys. Greg probably really really had to go to the bathroom because Ganzi took too long of a shower and decided "omg i need to pee, but i dont know how to tell alive in korean to wait" and so the 6 pool twice
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On February 14 2012 10:47 nvs. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 10:04 Kamais Ookin wrote:
iNcontroL, why are you silent? You were pretty loud back when Naniwa did similar things... So was alex, just read that blog. XD Of course they will clam up when it directly affects themselves though, I wouldn't expect any less.
haha you guys are hilarious.. nvs. is my favorite obsessed troll ALWAYS following me around and saying something snarky. Stay classy bro!
EG is not happy obviously.. IdrA knows this is wrong and it's being dealt with. NASL hasn't called for an apology nor has Fnatic. This is NOT the same as the Naniwa situation for obvious reasons.. it's bad, nobody would say otherwise but it is nowhere near what Naniwa did.
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On February 14 2012 12:08 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 10:47 nvs. wrote:On February 14 2012 10:04 Kamais Ookin wrote:
iNcontroL, why are you silent? You were pretty loud back when Naniwa did similar things... So was alex, just read that blog. XD Of course they will clam up when it directly affects themselves though, I wouldn't expect any less. haha you guys are hilarious.. nvs. is my favorite obsessed troll ALWAYS following me around and saying something snarky. Stay classy bro! EG is not happy obviously.. IdrA knows this is wrong and it's being dealt with. NASL hasn't called for an apology nor has Fnatic. This is NOT the same as the Naniwa situation for obvious reasons.. it's bad, nobody would say otherwise but it is nowhere near what Naniwa did.
Of course its not. Everything has double standards, when it comes to EG / Idra.
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On February 14 2012 12:08 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 10:47 nvs. wrote:On February 14 2012 10:04 Kamais Ookin wrote:
iNcontroL, why are you silent? You were pretty loud back when Naniwa did similar things... So was alex, just read that blog. XD Of course they will clam up when it directly affects themselves though, I wouldn't expect any less. haha you guys are hilarious.. nvs. is my favorite obsessed troll ALWAYS following me around and saying something snarky. Stay classy bro! EG is not happy obviously.. IdrA knows this is wrong and it's being dealt with. NASL hasn't called for an apology nor has Fnatic. This is NOT the same as the Naniwa situation for obvious reasons.. it's bad, nobody would say otherwise but it is nowhere near what Naniwa did.
Ya this is all about you.
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LOL
you posted about how I specifically won't say anything.. what the fuck is wrong with you? Look at your post history? Just yesterday you were spouting shit about the Destiny showmatch and then SOTG before that.. you literally never shut the fuck up about me. BELIEVE ME I get a lot of attention so when a name jumps out it means they are fucking consistent and you sir are latched on to my nipple like a suckling dog.
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On February 14 2012 12:16 iNcontroL wrote:
LOL
you posted about how I specifically won't say anything.. what the fuck is wrong with you? Look at your post history? Just yesterday you were spouting shit about the Destiny showmatch and then SOTG before that.. you literally never shut the fuck up about me. BELIEVE ME I get a lot of attention so when a name jumps out it means they are fucking consistent and you sir are latched on to my nipple like a suckling dog.
No I never posted about you I quoted a post about you. I have yet to post your name in this thread yo.
I only mentioned alex and his blog.
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I actually just need to stop responding to you. Everyone? Sorry for my momentary lapse, I will stop feeding this troll I promise. nvs. please continue to stalk me! It won't get you any more replies.
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