On January 27 2012 14:04 FXOpen wrote: I think you guys are over thinking things.
Heres generally how online team leagues go due to scheduling and time constraints..
<Who is the competition> <Good or bad? who are likely players?>
<Pick 4 players who can beat the likely players>
<ask 4 players what map they want>
<play>
Map strategy on online tournaments isnt really applicable because of the timings etc. It basically comes down to the players deciding what map they want to play. At least in FXO's case.
If the match was a final, we would strategise accordingly what strat on what map and whats the map stats. How we can lose that map vs what watch up etc etcetc ... I am quite sure other teams are doing the same thing.
On January 27 2012 13:06 s4life wrote: This format kinda sucks.. mirror matches, Bo5.. ah well
The mirror matches can't be helped, that's kind of inadvertent (other than the consistent PvP on TDA, but that's because it's a good choice for Protoss). Personally I love this format because it's the only one like Proleague and frankly there's a lot more strategy involved than the plethora of all-kill format leagues. I think that making it a Bo7 with the 7th set being an ace might be better, but I think that would put a lot of strain on some teams to even field six players. For a team like FXO (Lucky, Leenock, asd, Oz, Choya, GuMiho, etc.), but for teams like Mouz (who only has six players on their entire roster) it might be difficult to actually get all six in. I think that this format is fine, though I would like to see less mirrors...
proleague had also a winners league, which imho was the best part. In case of BW at least, coaches would send the same races according to the map due to perceived biases.. not sure if this happens in SC2 as well; if so, that would explain the propensity to having mirror matches in this format. Truly if a team doesn't have enough players then it shouldn't be in the tourney in the first place, there are plenty of teams that could fill in.
Finally, a Bo7 only requires FOUR players to win, not SEVEN. I think a Bo9 -- like IPTL -- is definitely better than this.
4 seperate BO1s thats the most retarded format there can be .. I can understant BO7 last man standing style even though its still BO1 but this is just stupid so much luck invovled.
On January 27 2012 11:59 FauvFauv wrote: wow nasl... just wow...
Because it's their fault?
1) If this was streamed live we could have seen the game.
2) I doubt that IdrA's computer didn't saved the replay. This isn't supposed to happen when your opponent disconnects from the game. NASL should have had a referee in that match for this reason. Also they needed a referee to check if Leenock's advantage was big enough to award him a win.
On January 27 2012 11:59 FauvFauv wrote: wow nasl... just wow...
Because it's their fault?
1) If this was streamed live we could have seen the game.
2) I doubt that IdrA's computer didn't saved the replay. This isn't supposed to happen when your opponent disconnects from the game. NASL should have had a referee in that match for this reason. Also they needed a referee to check if Leenock's advantage was big enough to award him a win.
You're aware the only team league that is streamed live is GSTL, because there is a set schedule and everyone is in the same spot, right? Playing an international online team league live is not viable.
On January 27 2012 11:59 FauvFauv wrote: wow nasl... just wow...
Because it's their fault?
1) If this was streamed live we could have seen the game.
2) I doubt that IdrA's computer didn't saved the replay. This isn't supposed to happen when your opponent disconnects from the game. NASL should have had a referee in that match for this reason. Also they needed a referee to check if Leenock's advantage was big enough to award him a win.
i think that idra would have got a regame if he said that the advantage leenock had was not big enough....
On January 27 2012 11:59 FauvFauv wrote: wow nasl... just wow...
Because it's their fault?
1) If this was streamed live we could have seen the game.
2) I doubt that IdrA's computer didn't saved the replay. This isn't supposed to happen when your opponent disconnects from the game. NASL should have had a referee in that match for this reason. Also they needed a referee to check if Leenock's advantage was big enough to award him a win.
You're aware the only team league that is streamed live is GSTL, because there is a set schedule and everyone is in the same spot, right? Playing an international online team league live is not viable.
You're saying this like there are a lot of foreigner team leagues. Fyi, the only major online team legues are NASTL and IPL TAC. Both leagues also stream their 1v1 online events from replays for very little reason. Smaller leagues like the KSL Daily or incredible Panic team league are being streamed live.
The participants are professional players who should be available at any time unless they participate at a LAN event. They are getting paid for this, and I doubt they will be against it. I'm pretty sure that the NASTL or IPL TAC organizers didn't even asked the teams if they prefer the matches to be played live (with a fixed schedule) or not. This is simply a choice from organizers because it's easier for them to broadcast replays.
It also doesn't matter if the live matches can't always be streamed at the same hours. Those who can't watch it live, will just check the recorded broadcast later. There's no difference in watching "live replays" or a VOD.
I hope that both NASL and IPL will soon understand that most people don't watch their leagues because they're not broadcasted live.