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Philipd122
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia776 Posts
January 27 2012 06:51 GMT
#201
On January 27 2012 15:06 pripple wrote:
how did demu fare against asd?
was the game any good?


Demuslim went mech vs. asd's biomech.

Demuslim let asd get 6 bases at 20 minutes.

Bad engagements from demuslim and we have a totally one sided game.
Oz | Leenock | GuMiho | Lucky | MC | PartinG | DRG | Mvp
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
January 27 2012 06:52 GMT
#202
On January 27 2012 14:04 FXOpen wrote:
I think you guys are over thinking things.

Heres generally how online team leagues go due to scheduling and time constraints..

<Who is the competition> <Good or bad? who are likely players?>

<Pick 4 players who can beat the likely players>

<ask 4 players what map they want>

<play>

Map strategy on online tournaments isnt really applicable because of the timings etc. It basically comes down to the players deciding what map they want to play. At least in FXO's case.

If the match was a final, we would strategise accordingly what strat on what map and whats the map stats. How we can lose that map vs what watch up etc etcetc ... I am quite sure other teams are doing the same thing.


<3 you, well played tonight.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
January 27 2012 07:39 GMT
#203
On January 26 2012 16:06 Chicane wrote:
Lucky
JYP
ASD
Leenock

3-1 FXO


Yay. (though it wasn't the hardest one to predict.)
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
January 27 2012 08:45 GMT
#204
On January 27 2012 13:20 The Final Boss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 13:06 s4life wrote:
This format kinda sucks.. mirror matches, Bo5.. ah well

The mirror matches can't be helped, that's kind of inadvertent (other than the consistent PvP on TDA, but that's because it's a good choice for Protoss). Personally I love this format because it's the only one like Proleague and frankly there's a lot more strategy involved than the plethora of all-kill format leagues. I think that making it a Bo7 with the 7th set being an ace might be better, but I think that would put a lot of strain on some teams to even field six players. For a team like FXO (Lucky, Leenock, asd, Oz, Choya, GuMiho, etc.), but for teams like Mouz (who only has six players on their entire roster) it might be difficult to actually get all six in. I think that this format is fine, though I would like to see less mirrors...


proleague had also a winners league, which imho was the best part. In case of BW at least, coaches would send the same races according to the map due to perceived biases.. not sure if this happens in SC2 as well; if so, that would explain the propensity to having mirror matches in this format. Truly if a team doesn't have enough players then it shouldn't be in the tourney in the first place, there are plenty of teams that could fill in.

Finally, a Bo7 only requires FOUR players to win, not SEVEN. I think a Bo9 -- like IPTL -- is definitely better than this.
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
January 27 2012 09:41 GMT
#205
A bo7 requires you to have 7 players (or 6+ ace). That's what he was saying. Nobody said bo7 means you have to win 7 games.
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
January 27 2012 09:45 GMT
#206
Why don't have you have a god damn admin/ref in the games?
@followMVT
Veriol
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic502 Posts
January 27 2012 10:32 GMT
#207
4 seperate BO1s thats the most retarded format there can be .. I can understant BO7 last man standing style even though its still BO1 but this is just stupid so much luck invovled.
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." -iloveoov
0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
January 27 2012 10:49 GMT
#208
agree format isnt very good.. still sad for EG
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 27 2012 11:23 GMT
#209
NASL can't catch a break. Too bad we missed the Leenock vs IdrA games.
I want to see some IdrA games, to see how much he got better in Korea.
I had a good night of sleep.
Farone
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
January 27 2012 11:35 GMT
#210
On January 26 2012 17:35 Farone wrote:
puma
choya
asd
leenock

heard it here first



XDXD
MC, Stephano, Ret, Jjakji, Grubby, Life, HerO, Scarlett, TaeJa
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
January 27 2012 11:54 GMT
#211
On January 27 2012 20:35 Farone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 17:35 Farone wrote:
puma
choya
asd
leenock

heard it here first



XDXD


XDXD What? You had 2 wrong, lol. how in the world did you think Choya could beat JYP in PvP?
Apoo
Profile Joined January 2011
413 Posts
January 27 2012 12:23 GMT
#212
Hey, am i the only one with problems watching the VODs on twitch.tv from NASTL ? Anyone else have issues ?

Because everytime i want to watch them they lagg incredibly hard, unwatchable. Only the sound is 100% fine.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
January 27 2012 12:36 GMT
#213
On January 27 2012 20:54 MrMercuG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 20:35 Farone wrote:
On January 26 2012 17:35 Farone wrote:
puma
choya
asd
leenock

heard it here first



XDXD


XDXD What? You had 2 wrong, lol. how in the world did you think Choya could beat JYP in PvP?

Tal'darim isn't PvP. Call it whatever you want.
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
January 27 2012 13:18 GMT
#214
On January 27 2012 12:02 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 11:59 FauvFauv wrote:
wow nasl... just wow...


Because it's their fault?


1) If this was streamed live we could have seen the game.

2) I doubt that IdrA's computer didn't saved the replay. This isn't supposed to happen when your opponent disconnects from the game. NASL should have had a referee in that match for this reason. Also they needed a referee to check if Leenock's advantage was big enough to award him a win.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
January 27 2012 15:08 GMT
#215
On January 27 2012 22:18 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 12:02 Dexington wrote:
On January 27 2012 11:59 FauvFauv wrote:
wow nasl... just wow...


Because it's their fault?


1) If this was streamed live we could have seen the game.

2) I doubt that IdrA's computer didn't saved the replay. This isn't supposed to happen when your opponent disconnects from the game. NASL should have had a referee in that match for this reason. Also they needed a referee to check if Leenock's advantage was big enough to award him a win.


You're aware the only team league that is streamed live is GSTL, because there is a set schedule and everyone is in the same spot, right? Playing an international online team league live is not viable.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
January 27 2012 15:42 GMT
#216
On January 27 2012 22:18 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 12:02 Dexington wrote:
On January 27 2012 11:59 FauvFauv wrote:
wow nasl... just wow...


Because it's their fault?


1) If this was streamed live we could have seen the game.

2) I doubt that IdrA's computer didn't saved the replay. This isn't supposed to happen when your opponent disconnects from the game. NASL should have had a referee in that match for this reason. Also they needed a referee to check if Leenock's advantage was big enough to award him a win.



i think that idra would have got a regame if he said that the advantage leenock had was not big enough....
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
devPLEASE
Profile Joined March 2011
Kenya605 Posts
January 27 2012 16:07 GMT
#217
Hmm I thought Choya was coach and didn't play
(ノ `Д´)ノ︵┻━┻
Seiferz
Profile Joined May 2011
United States640 Posts
January 27 2012 16:22 GMT
#218
On January 28 2012 01:07 devPLEASE wrote:
Hmm I thought Choya was coach and didn't play


he's been playing in team leagues. he was in ipls TAC and this
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
January 27 2012 16:51 GMT
#219
On January 28 2012 00:08 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 22:18 cyclone25 wrote:
On January 27 2012 12:02 Dexington wrote:
On January 27 2012 11:59 FauvFauv wrote:
wow nasl... just wow...


Because it's their fault?


1) If this was streamed live we could have seen the game.

2) I doubt that IdrA's computer didn't saved the replay. This isn't supposed to happen when your opponent disconnects from the game. NASL should have had a referee in that match for this reason. Also they needed a referee to check if Leenock's advantage was big enough to award him a win.


You're aware the only team league that is streamed live is GSTL, because there is a set schedule and everyone is in the same spot, right? Playing an international online team league live is not viable.


You're saying this like there are a lot of foreigner team leagues. Fyi, the only major online team legues are NASTL and IPL TAC. Both leagues also stream their 1v1 online events from replays for very little reason.
Smaller leagues like the KSL Daily or incredible Panic team league are being streamed live.

The participants are professional players who should be available at any time unless they participate at a LAN event. They are getting paid for this, and I doubt they will be against it.
I'm pretty sure that the NASTL or IPL TAC organizers didn't even asked the teams if they prefer the matches to be played live (with a fixed schedule) or not. This is simply a choice from organizers because it's easier for them to broadcast replays.

It also doesn't matter if the live matches can't always be streamed at the same hours. Those who can't watch it live, will just check the recorded broadcast later. There's no difference in watching "live replays" or a VOD.

I hope that both NASL and IPL will soon understand that most people don't watch their leagues because they're not broadcasted live.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
January 27 2012 17:07 GMT
#220
I really don't think many people care they are casted from replays. Why would it matter at all? It's the same game either way.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
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