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Can't go to lunch without coming back to 20+ reports. This makes me upset. Stop the bullshit or get ready to hammered. Thanks --Pholon
gibb
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden288 Posts
December 13 2011 09:57 GMT
#1001
Really interesting.. he's gonna need good storms!
Manners.
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
December 13 2011 09:57 GMT
#1002
Mhm, 2 infestors vs. that clump of mutalisks...
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
December 13 2011 09:57 GMT
#1003
These guys are very evenly matched! This is a really good match!
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 13 2011 09:57 GMT
#1004
On December 13 2011 18:56 Logros wrote:
PvZ T.T Feels like the only way Protoss is winning lately is 2 base all-ins.


what? lol if anything protosses are starting to win because they realize taking bases is good is what I have seen more then all ins finally...
When I think of something else, something will go here
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
December 13 2011 09:57 GMT
#1005
Naniwa playin beautiful
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
December 13 2011 09:57 GMT
#1006
Please vortex the banelings.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
December 13 2011 09:57 GMT
#1007
thats alot of stalkers yes?
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
December 13 2011 09:57 GMT
#1008
Mutas are so had to deal with...
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
December 13 2011 09:57 GMT
#1009
:D Mothership incoming!

Unless Leenock pulls a LosirA, I don't see NaNi winning this.
MarKeD
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 10:02:00
December 13 2011 09:57 GMT
#1010
why is he thinking Templar should back up storm actually has equal range to multitasks, however its a splash spell, with one you can wipe out or at least severely damage a lot of them (I couldn't tell the templar had energy or not on LQ stream)
ChaosTerran
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria844 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 10:05:49
December 13 2011 09:58 GMT
#1011
On December 13 2011 18:52 Giriath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 18:48 doko100 wrote:
On December 13 2011 18:44 Giriath wrote:
On December 13 2011 18:41 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 13 2011 18:38 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On December 13 2011 18:36 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Honestly, NesTea is pretty terrible at late game ZvT.

So
Soooo true.

Falls apart completely.


I think it falls more into the realm of terran gets harder to kill the later the game goes due to fortification..as displayed by MMA when he was building barracks to create a joke...but what do I know.


That's true. The further away a game goes from mid-game, the harder it becomes for a Zerg to close out the game. I really wish snipe was nerfed (it's also needed in TvP, where Ghost vs Templar needs to be an even fight) and Ultralisks buffed with their charge ability.


Ghosts vs. Templars should not be an even fight lol, it's already hard enough for terran to win lategame tvp even with perfect emps, if you nerf snipe vs. templars it would be absolutely unfair, because you know, templars can kill units with storms, emps don't kill any units at all.


No, but it makes instant, unavoidable damage at a greater range than storm, allowing a bio-ball to melt gateway units and archons.



Which is perfectly fine.

On December 13 2011 18:54 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 18:48 doko100 wrote:
On December 13 2011 18:44 Giriath wrote:
On December 13 2011 18:41 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 13 2011 18:38 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On December 13 2011 18:36 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Honestly, NesTea is pretty terrible at late game ZvT.

So
Soooo true.

Falls apart completely.


I think it falls more into the realm of terran gets harder to kill the later the game goes due to fortification..as displayed by MMA when he was building barracks to create a joke...but what do I know.


That's true. The further away a game goes from mid-game, the harder it becomes for a Zerg to close out the game. I really wish snipe was nerfed (it's also needed in TvP, where Ghost vs Templar needs to be an even fight) and Ultralisks buffed with their charge ability.


Ghosts vs. Templars should not be an even fight lol, it's already hard enough for terran to win lategame tvp even with perfect emps, if you nerf snipe vs. templars it would be absolutely unfair, because you know, templars can kill units with storms, emps don't kill any units at all.

It depends on perspective. If it is right before a battle can you argue that losing 100 HP instantly is not deadly? If it is simply a random EMP then no. Both are stronger in different situations. In a battle I would take 100 health instantly gone myself.


You are ignoring the fact that terran units have alot less health than protoss units, so damage scales differently. 1 storm pretty much removes around 40 % of a marines health per second. A emp however only removes 33% of a zealot's shield without even having a chance to do more damage than that (you are assuming that a terran can perfectly dodge out of all storms, which is impossible even for top korean pros). EMP removes around 40% of a collossi's health and around 50% of a stalkers health. yes the damage is instant effect, but it has no chance of ever doing more damage than that.

A storm that hits however pretty much instantly damages 40% of the marine's health and if the terran doesn't move within another second the marines health is already 80% removed, a second storm outright kills the marines (or if you stay in the storm for 3+ seconds too), a marauder loses around 15% of his health per second against a storm and can also die to storm, something protoss units can't from emp. So yes, it should be easier to hit emps than it is to hit storms, because of the health scale of terran units and the fact that emp can't kill.
SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
December 13 2011 09:58 GMT
#1012
Mothership incoming!!!
나를 찢어갈겨이씨발놈아왜나를미치게만들어니가뭘아는데?
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
December 13 2011 09:58 GMT
#1013
SICK STORMS>
Dear Sixsmith...
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
December 13 2011 09:58 GMT
#1014
On December 13 2011 18:56 darkness wrote:
I can't understand why so many good protosses have full energy nexuses... no chrono?

What is there to chrono with 3+ nexus when you build no more probes and have your upgrades done? Your production is usually limited by income not WG cooldown.
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
December 13 2011 09:58 GMT
#1015
Yeah, that was some good defense and turtling by NaNiWa, but he wasn't able to cover all his bases and couldn't afford making the archons he would need for a toilet anyway.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
December 13 2011 09:58 GMT
#1016
Leenock should know that Naniwa is going for Mothership.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
PoisedYeTi
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia167 Posts
December 13 2011 09:58 GMT
#1017
That was the moment leenock was waiting for, the base trade is in his favour always.
"Just read game like book" -WhiteRa
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 13 2011 09:58 GMT
#1018
It's ok guy he has a mothership inc he's got this.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Bulkers
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland509 Posts
December 13 2011 09:58 GMT
#1019
On December 13 2011 18:56 Logros wrote:
PvZ T.T Feels like the only way Protoss is winning lately is 2 base all-ins.


Thats why I keep god w/l ratio against zerg on ladder... theres nothing better than good old but strong 7 gate, and catching zerg with pants down beacue by the time ill be at hes expansion he would have first few mutas out, not 20+
BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
December 13 2011 09:58 GMT
#1020
Nani has to go all-in from here to have any form of a chance.
HoneyBadger.784 Diamond KR "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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