On December 03 2011 13:49 Pick wrote: How does a tournament with a $100,000 prize pool and well known players and casters only attract a live crowd of 20 people?
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Yeah still wondering about that.. Tweet the world with a 'free entrance' action or something. They still got 25k viewers onstream, make it more enjoyable for the bigger audience?
It's like a Comedy Club. It's better to give away free tickets to play to an empty crowd. At least you'd be able to satisfy the sponsors, hopefully sell some concessions/merchandise, etc.
Honestly, I think the problem, with NASL as a whole may simply be a lack of business acumen. For example, PR 101 is that when you're trying to promote something you make sure that the venue/arrangements are too small/little for the crowd you expect. You do the same thing in politics: when you're on the campaign trail, every stop should be a little too small to actually support the event. That way you create the perception of being more popular than you are. Of course, this is just one item, and certainly I can't imagine the NASL folks expected anything like this small a turnout. That said, everybody knows they're trying to really "save" NASL and to demonstrate that it should exist. It seems like even once they knew this wasn't going well they just decided to carry on and hope for the best without attempting to do anything. I think my point is just that even in bad circumstances, there are things to be done which more seasoned business minded folks would keep in mind, and this may be a manifestation of a generally poor business sense which is mucking the whole operation up.
At the end of the day ... something about the whole tournament is 'off'. I really appreciate and respect what they are trying to contribute to the community, but everything points to poor management and weak leadership.
Yeah sad part is they really tried.
I still judge them harshly though because it's nobody's fault but theirs that they're failing... instead of taking all the criticism from Season 1 seriously they've just kept up the whole charade whilst InControl has kept telling us that everything is great and nothing is bad with the NASL.
They've had ample time to improve and make things right yet still we have really bad audio and production value.
Still great that they're bringing out so many casters but for only having 1 stream on it just seems like overkill... why not spend the money spent on flying in 11 casters on koreans instead?
Maybe they could spend the money on something else, but they offered the Koreans more than enough money. Giving into them may help NASL in the short term, but would be very bad for e-sports and thus NASL in the bigger, long term picture.
On December 03 2011 13:49 Pick wrote: How does a tournament with a $100,000 prize pool and well known players and casters only attract a live crowd of 20 people?
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Yeah still wondering about that.. Tweet the world with a 'free entrance' action or something. They still got 25k viewers onstream, make it more enjoyable for the bigger audience?
It's like a Comedy Club. It's better to give away free tickets to play to an empty crowd. At least you'd be able to satisfy the sponsors, hopefully sell some concessions/merchandise, etc.
Honestly, I think the problem, with NASL as a whole may simply be a lack of business acumen. For example, PR 101 is that when you're trying to promote something you make sure that the venue/arrangements are too small/little for the crowd you expect. You do the same thing in politics: when you're on the campaign trail, every stop should be a little too small to actually support the event. That way you create the perception of being more popular than you are. Of course, this is just one item, and certainly I can't imagine the NASL folks expected anything like this small a turnout. That said, everybody knows they're trying to really "save" NASL and to demonstrate that it should exist. It seems like even once they knew this wasn't going well they just decided to carry on and hope for the best without attempting to do anything. I think my point is just that even in bad circumstances, there are things to be done which more seasoned business minded folks would keep in mind, and this may be a manifestation of a generally poor business sense which is mucking the whole operation up.
At the end of the day ... something about the whole tournament is 'off'. I really appreciate and respect what they are trying to contribute to the community, but everything points to poor management and weak leadership.
I still judge them harshly though because it's nobody's fault but theirs that they're failing... instead of taking all the criticism from Season 1 seriously they've just kept up the whole charade whilst InControl has kept telling us that everything is great and nothing is bad with the NASL.
They've had ample time to improve and make things right yet still we have really bad audio and production value.
Still great that they're bringing out so many casters but for only having 1 stream on it just seems like overkill... why not spend the money spent on flying in 11 casters on koreans instead?
Agreed. With the amount of games they have, they could even just get 2 casters to do every single match and it would not be as much of a load compared to say MLG. Then they can just use the money to actually fly in koreans.
Dosen't seem like an efficient use of money to me. But anyways, thorzain vs demuslim gogo!!
Say What you Want about NASL but there has been some GG's. man seeing the Empty crowd makes me a sad Panda =( I truly truly hope tom there are more people.
i love the uniqueness of NASL's finals. red carpet for the players, intro music ahaha, booths with opponents facing each other, nice nice. I wish the crowd was larger, but maybe tomorrow and sunday will have a stronger turnout. Regardless, ever since about halfway through season 1, teamliquid posters and people in general are just hellbent on hating NASL no matter what they do. They're basically that kid in school who tries so hard to be cool but no one likes them anyway without any reason. It sucks for them as they obviously work very hard and people just expect perfection and anything less is unacceptable. Seriously, I've never seen any SC2 league scrutinized as much as NASL is with literally everything they do. I guess it's just cool to hate people who want to create another cool starcraft league for people to watch and enjoy
On December 03 2011 13:49 Pick wrote: How does a tournament with a $100,000 prize pool and well known players and casters only attract a live crowd of 20 people?
=/
Yeah still wondering about that.. Tweet the world with a 'free entrance' action or something. They still got 25k viewers onstream, make it more enjoyable for the bigger audience?
It's like a Comedy Club. It's better to give away free tickets to play to an empty crowd. At least you'd be able to satisfy the sponsors, hopefully sell some concessions/merchandise, etc.
Honestly, I think the problem, with NASL as a whole may simply be a lack of business acumen. For example, PR 101 is that when you're trying to promote something you make sure that the venue/arrangements are too small/little for the crowd you expect. You do the same thing in politics: when you're on the campaign trail, every stop should be a little too small to actually support the event. That way you create the perception of being more popular than you are. Of course, this is just one item, and certainly I can't imagine the NASL folks expected anything like this small a turnout. That said, everybody knows they're trying to really "save" NASL and to demonstrate that it should exist. It seems like even once they knew this wasn't going well they just decided to carry on and hope for the best without attempting to do anything. I think my point is just that even in bad circumstances, there are things to be done which more seasoned business minded folks would keep in mind, and this may be a manifestation of a generally poor business sense which is mucking the whole operation up.
At the end of the day ... something about the whole tournament is 'off'. I really appreciate and respect what they are trying to contribute to the community, but everything points to poor management and weak leadership.
I still judge them harshly though because it's nobody's fault but theirs that they're failing... instead of taking all the criticism from Season 1 seriously they've just kept up the whole charade whilst InControl has kept telling us that everything is great and nothing is bad with the NASL.
They've had ample time to improve and make things right yet still we have really bad audio and production value.
Still great that they're bringing out so many casters but for only having 1 stream on it just seems like overkill... why not spend the money spent on flying in 11 casters on koreans instead?
People had criticisms of season 1, but it was still a success. Their viewership #'s were high at the start, but eventually stayed steady for the remaining weeks. The live event had a lot of hiccups, but still had a lot of spectators and viewers who tuned in. Their problem was that, once the season took off, it was already on a huge downswing. They couldn't just turn it around 1/2 into the season, so they had to just keep on the path laid out for them
That being said, if they don't actually change for season 3, then they'll deserve what they get.
edit: Koreans not coming is their own fault. NASL was more than fair in their offer to them.
Because flying out Koreans plus expenses is probably a lot more costly than bringing in casters, many of which are in-country, and paying for their expenses.
Noooo europeans, dont leave me alone! Pull an all nighter and we can watch GSL finals together too!!!
I´m with you! Or maybe I will fall asleep at some point, no way of telling right now. Each game brings new motivation to stay up though.
I have been fueling myself with Monster, and some coffee in betwheen cans, I either watch it all or die before it finishes!
I went to bed early and woke up at 4am to be able to see the nasl end and especially the GSL final. I'm here ! Go Tarzan, Torazine, Zortain, and Torjin !
Koreans wanted NASL to bend over and drop their pants. I'm actually ok with the fact NASL stood firm, we dont NEED them as bad as they seem to NEED us.
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