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On November 27 2011 09:34 taLbuk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 09:32 SCST wrote:On November 27 2011 09:30 GrungyMunchy wrote:On November 27 2011 09:28 mango_destroyer wrote:
atleast the dreamhack crowd knows how to stay in the venue after the win to show support. So true, it's so bad to watch the crowd from MLGs to immediately get up and leave before the award is given. At least people in Dreamhack show some respect for the players. This didn't happen at all the MLG's... remember Anaheim and Columbus were amazing. It's just the venue they chose at Providence, the population there didn't seem as into the game. It's not something MLG can control if the crowd wants to leave... but next time, MLG may smarten up and hold their events in SoCal from now on. Why risk poor crowds traveling around when you can have an awesome crowd every time in Anaheim? People are trying to compare apples to oranges and forget the MLG is a traveling thing and always deals with a different venue, a way different type of tournament, and a way different business model.
How is that relevant to whether the crowd stays 5 more minutes to watch the award being given?
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I hope everyone saw how well the "E-sports sofa" worked and someone (like the big tournaments) start having a more studio like atmosphere with separate commentators and "show hosts".
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the on the floor reporter for the swedish TV pulled a john out of nowhere and started thanking his wife and reading poems
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
On November 27 2011 09:36 MrCash wrote:
Fantastic tournament.
One of the best of the year.
Would have been wonderful to have a few more top tier Koreans there, but despite their few numbers they still showcase their superior game play.
4 Koreans in finals bracket, 0 lose to foreigners.
What? Who are these 4 Koreans? HerO, DRG, PuMa. Isn't that only 3? Also, Select wasn't in the finals bracket right?
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On November 27 2011 09:29 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 09:28 SCST wrote:
I don't think Hero will betray us like He Who Shall Not Be Named and go to EG. . . but if it happens, there will be a nerd-rage beyond anything the universe has ever seen lol We have to wait for a counter on the EG site and we know it.
If anyone does take HerO it will be Korean-based team that is affiliated with another one.
EG won't lay one hand on HerO.
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I swear nobody in this thread has ever traveled anywhere in their life.
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On November 27 2011 09:39 GrungyMunchy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 09:34 taLbuk wrote:On November 27 2011 09:32 SCST wrote:On November 27 2011 09:30 GrungyMunchy wrote:On November 27 2011 09:28 mango_destroyer wrote:
atleast the dreamhack crowd knows how to stay in the venue after the win to show support. So true, it's so bad to watch the crowd from MLGs to immediately get up and leave before the award is given. At least people in Dreamhack show some respect for the players. This didn't happen at all the MLG's... remember Anaheim and Columbus were amazing. It's just the venue they chose at Providence, the population there didn't seem as into the game. It's not something MLG can control if the crowd wants to leave... but next time, MLG may smarten up and hold their events in SoCal from now on. Why risk poor crowds traveling around when you can have an awesome crowd every time in Anaheim? People are trying to compare apples to oranges and forget the MLG is a traveling thing and always deals with a different venue, a way different type of tournament, and a way different business model. How is that relevant to whether the crowd stays 5 more minutes to watch the award being given?
People are exaggerating and pretend they are all batman and need to leave ASAP and can't stay 5 more minutes to show respect for the players.
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On November 27 2011 09:39 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 09:36 MrCash wrote:
Fantastic tournament.
One of the best of the year.
Would have been wonderful to have a few more top tier Koreans there, but despite their few numbers they still showcase their superior game play.
4 Koreans in finals bracket, 0 lose to foreigners. What? Who are these 4 Koreans? HerO, DRG, PuMa. Isn't that only 3? Also, Select wasn't in the finals bracket right?
Genius
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On November 27 2011 09:32 Highways wrote:
Just noticed something.
The last major tournament that a foreign Terran won was TSL3 by Thorzain... There are still very few major events won by foreigners. Not sure if I'm missing someone, but basically that's to say that Huk, Stephano and Idra aren't Terran (and Naniwa, if we count the invitational at MLG). That's just a very small number of people.
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On November 27 2011 09:36 SCST wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 09:34 taLbuk wrote:On November 27 2011 09:32 SCST wrote:On November 27 2011 09:30 GrungyMunchy wrote:On November 27 2011 09:28 mango_destroyer wrote:
atleast the dreamhack crowd knows how to stay in the venue after the win to show support. So true, it's so bad to watch the crowd from MLGs to immediately get up and leave before the award is given. At least people in Dreamhack show some respect for the players. This didn't happen at all the MLG's... remember Anaheim and Columbus were amazing. It's just the venue they chose at Providence, the population there didn't seem as into the game. It's not something MLG can control if the crowd wants to leave... but next time, MLG may smarten up and hold their events in SoCal from now on. Why risk poor crowds traveling around when you can have an awesome crowd every time in Anaheim? People are trying to compare apples to oranges and forget the MLG is a traveling thing and always deals with a different venue, a way different type of tournament, and a way different business model. Agreed. However, I do want to emphasize that I feel MLG should be stationary in SoCal. I'm not being biased here as I don't live in Socal. But the crowd in Anaheim/LA is just unmatched in SC2 and they always pack the venues. I don't understand the point of the traveling thing, it doesn't do much for the business IMO.
Traveling allows all players to be able to make it out to at least one MLG if they live in the US generally. Gives everyone a shot. Also, MLG usually stays on the east coast because more CoD and Halo teams live on the east coast.
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eff, EG better not buy hero now too haha
gg
sort of sucks hero had to beat ret, or rather, ret couldn't get into the finals cus of hero  but perhaps he would have lost anyways
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On November 27 2011 09:39 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 09:36 MrCash wrote:
Fantastic tournament.
One of the best of the year.
Would have been wonderful to have a few more top tier Koreans there, but despite their few numbers they still showcase their superior game play.
4 Koreans in finals bracket, 0 lose to foreigners. What? Who are these 4 Koreans? HerO, DRG, PuMa. Isn't that only 3? Also, Select wasn't in the finals bracket right?
Genius was there, he is a cool guy.
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On November 27 2011 09:39 GrungyMunchy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 09:34 taLbuk wrote:On November 27 2011 09:32 SCST wrote:On November 27 2011 09:30 GrungyMunchy wrote:On November 27 2011 09:28 mango_destroyer wrote:
atleast the dreamhack crowd knows how to stay in the venue after the win to show support. So true, it's so bad to watch the crowd from MLGs to immediately get up and leave before the award is given. At least people in Dreamhack show some respect for the players. This didn't happen at all the MLG's... remember Anaheim and Columbus were amazing. It's just the venue they chose at Providence, the population there didn't seem as into the game. It's not something MLG can control if the crowd wants to leave... but next time, MLG may smarten up and hold their events in SoCal from now on. Why risk poor crowds traveling around when you can have an awesome crowd every time in Anaheim? People are trying to compare apples to oranges and forget the MLG is a traveling thing and always deals with a different venue, a way different type of tournament, and a way different business model. How is that relevant to whether the crowd stays 5 more minutes to watch the award being given?
75 percent of the crowd was standing throughout all of MLG.
Of course they are going to leave when it is done. Car is the only place to sit FFS.
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On November 27 2011 09:30 mtn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 09:20 R!! wrote:On November 27 2011 09:16 windsupernova wrote:On November 27 2011 09:15 StarStruck wrote:On November 27 2011 09:13 skrotcyk wrote:On November 27 2011 09:12 Erasme wrote:On November 27 2011 09:07 Talack wrote:On November 27 2011 09:06 Mohdoo wrote:Puma can't compete with Hero in a macro game. The better player wins  *race you mean, by abusing timings and all in ? Bravo Hero ! Manner nexus is the way to win ! Also great sniping with the stalkers :D HerO is also extremly abusive, so stop it. elaborate. I want to hear this because I already debunked the 3gate all in and the 4gate play. please proceed Mr. know-it-all. The facts are all in the VODS and replays. You didn't get the memo? This is a LR thread Player wins early game, it was cheese. Player wins mid game, it was an X or Y all in. Player wins lategame, it was imba and abusive. Jeez That 2 forge play was kind of abusive, though at one point puma had 118 supply and hero 98 because of it so it obviously has its weaknesses, if only puma had scanned early, if only he waited for 3-3 to finish before completely slaughtering hero in that engagement. Anyways, despite having a terran heart I like Hero better so I guess it was a win/win situation for me. How was it an abusive play? So in your mind. Upgrading is abusive and allinish. Going for ghosts before medivacs isnt? shiet man get ur shit together.
Going for double forge as fast as he did is a massive corner cut, it's not allinish, I consider it more abusive then lets say, a hidden early 3rd, I am not saying it's not legitimate, I just don't like gambles and knowing that the opponent can straight up kill you if he spots it is a gamble, you seem to confuse abusive play with allins.
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(20 minutes later, all i'm thinking is still BACON BACON BACON O_O)
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On November 27 2011 09:41 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 09:39 GrungyMunchy wrote:On November 27 2011 09:34 taLbuk wrote:On November 27 2011 09:32 SCST wrote:On November 27 2011 09:30 GrungyMunchy wrote:On November 27 2011 09:28 mango_destroyer wrote:
atleast the dreamhack crowd knows how to stay in the venue after the win to show support. So true, it's so bad to watch the crowd from MLGs to immediately get up and leave before the award is given. At least people in Dreamhack show some respect for the players. This didn't happen at all the MLG's... remember Anaheim and Columbus were amazing. It's just the venue they chose at Providence, the population there didn't seem as into the game. It's not something MLG can control if the crowd wants to leave... but next time, MLG may smarten up and hold their events in SoCal from now on. Why risk poor crowds traveling around when you can have an awesome crowd every time in Anaheim? People are trying to compare apples to oranges and forget the MLG is a traveling thing and always deals with a different venue, a way different type of tournament, and a way different business model. How is that relevant to whether the crowd stays 5 more minutes to watch the award being given? 75 percent of the crowd was standing throughout all of MLG. Of course they are going to leave when it is done. Car is the only place to sit FFS.
Yeah the seating situation at MLG was god awful. My legs were not pleased.
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On November 27 2011 09:41 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 09:39 GrungyMunchy wrote:On November 27 2011 09:34 taLbuk wrote:On November 27 2011 09:32 SCST wrote:On November 27 2011 09:30 GrungyMunchy wrote:On November 27 2011 09:28 mango_destroyer wrote:
atleast the dreamhack crowd knows how to stay in the venue after the win to show support. So true, it's so bad to watch the crowd from MLGs to immediately get up and leave before the award is given. At least people in Dreamhack show some respect for the players. This didn't happen at all the MLG's... remember Anaheim and Columbus were amazing. It's just the venue they chose at Providence, the population there didn't seem as into the game. It's not something MLG can control if the crowd wants to leave... but next time, MLG may smarten up and hold their events in SoCal from now on. Why risk poor crowds traveling around when you can have an awesome crowd every time in Anaheim? People are trying to compare apples to oranges and forget the MLG is a traveling thing and always deals with a different venue, a way different type of tournament, and a way different business model. How is that relevant to whether the crowd stays 5 more minutes to watch the award being given? 75 percent of the crowd was standing throughout all of MLG. Of course they are going to leave when it is done. Car is the only place to sit FFS.
Yeah I guess 5 minutes is really a whole lot of additional time to be standing.
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Thanks Uh why did the official stream stop? o.o
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On November 27 2011 09:42 R!! wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 09:30 mtn wrote:On November 27 2011 09:20 R!! wrote:On November 27 2011 09:16 windsupernova wrote:On November 27 2011 09:15 StarStruck wrote:On November 27 2011 09:13 skrotcyk wrote:On November 27 2011 09:12 Erasme wrote:On November 27 2011 09:07 Talack wrote:On November 27 2011 09:06 Mohdoo wrote:Puma can't compete with Hero in a macro game. The better player wins *race you mean, by abusing timings and all in ? Bravo Hero ! Manner nexus is the way to win ! Also great sniping with the stalkers :D HerO is also extremly abusive, so stop it. elaborate. I want to hear this because I already debunked the 3gate all in and the 4gate play. please proceed Mr. know-it-all. The facts are all in the VODS and replays. You didn't get the memo? This is a LR thread Player wins early game, it was cheese. Player wins mid game, it was an X or Y all in. Player wins lategame, it was imba and abusive. Jeez That 2 forge play was kind of abusive, though at one point puma had 118 supply and hero 98 because of it so it obviously has its weaknesses, if only puma had scanned early, if only he waited for 3-3 to finish before completely slaughtering hero in that engagement. Anyways, despite having a terran heart I like Hero better so I guess it was a win/win situation for me. How was it an abusive play? So in your mind. Upgrading is abusive and allinish. Going for ghosts before medivacs isnt? shiet man get ur shit together. Going for double forge as fast as he did is a massive corner cut, it's not allinish, I consider it more abusive then lets say, a hidden early 3rd, I am not saying it's not legitimate, I just don't like gambles and knowing that the opponent can straight up kill you if he spots it is a gamble, you seem to confuse abusive play with allins.
You do know what "abusive" means right?
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