On November 27 2011 09:28 mango_destroyer wrote: atleast the dreamhack crowd knows how to stay in the venue after the win to show support.
So true, it's so bad to watch the crowd from MLGs to immediately get up and leave before the award is given. At least people in Dreamhack show some respect for the players.
This didn't happen at all the MLG's... remember Anaheim and Columbus were amazing. It's just the venue they chose at Providence, the population there didn't seem as into the game. It's not something MLG can control if the crowd wants to leave... but next time, MLG may smarten up and hold their events in SoCal from now on. Why risk poor crowds traveling around when you can have an awesome crowd every time in Anaheim?
People are trying to compare apples to oranges and forget the MLG is a traveling thing and always deals with a different venue, a way different type of tournament, and a way different business model.
How is that relevant to whether the crowd stays 5 more minutes to watch the award being given?
75 percent of the crowd was standing throughout all of MLG.
Of course they are going to leave when it is done. Car is the only place to sit FFS.
Yeah the seating situation at MLG was god awful. My legs were not pleased.
On November 27 2011 09:28 SCST wrote: I don't think Hero will betray us like He Who Shall Not Be Named and go to EG. . . but if it happens, there will be a nerd-rage beyond anything the universe has ever seen lol
Let everyone go who wants to go tbh, they'll never have what we have.
On November 27 2011 09:28 SCST wrote: I don't think Hero will betray us like He Who Shall Not Be Named and go to EG. . . but if it happens, there will be a nerd-rage beyond anything the universe has ever seen lol
We have to wait for a counter on the EG site and we know it.
If anyone does take HerO it will be Korean-based team that is affiliated with another one.
EG won't lay one hand on HerO.
how did huk "betray" teamliquid cant believe people are still crying over that, if you got a higher paying job at a different location and it will be better for you would you not take it? or do you think loyalty revolves around the whole world these days, huk gets paid top 3 in the world and enjoys being on EG even players on teamliquid supported him and there his teammates your just a fan simple as that
On November 27 2011 09:28 mango_destroyer wrote: atleast the dreamhack crowd knows how to stay in the venue after the win to show support.
So true, it's so bad to watch the crowd from MLGs to immediately get up and leave before the award is given. At least people in Dreamhack show some respect for the players.
This didn't happen at all the MLG's... remember Anaheim and Columbus were amazing. It's just the venue they chose at Providence, the population there didn't seem as into the game. It's not something MLG can control if the crowd wants to leave... but next time, MLG may smarten up and hold their events in SoCal from now on. Why risk poor crowds traveling around when you can have an awesome crowd every time in Anaheim?
People are trying to compare apples to oranges and forget the MLG is a traveling thing and always deals with a different venue, a way different type of tournament, and a way different business model.
How is that relevant to whether the crowd stays 5 more minutes to watch the award being given?
75 percent of the crowd was standing throughout all of MLG.
Of course they are going to leave when it is done. Car is the only place to sit FFS.
Yeah the seating situation at MLG was god awful. My legs were not pleased.
I thought my knees were going to shatter.
Don't worry, these people talking nonsense have probably never been to a live event in their life where they had to stand for 12 hours a day to watch something, and had real life obligations after several hours of travel.
That parking lot thing was silly too, $12 to leave or something (in Orlando) so that was out of the question to get food.
On November 27 2011 09:32 Highways wrote: Just noticed something.
The last major tournament that a foreign Terran won was TSL3 by Thorzain...
Considering only two foreigners has won major tournaments since then, Stephano and Huk, that doesn't say anything. (Only Dreamhack, IPL, MLG and ESWC are major foreign tournaments imo). Though Sjow won $12 750 for first price just a month ago, which is quite major.
However, it is true that the best foreign players are mainly Protoss and Zerg while the best Koreans are mainly Terran. The only real S-class foreign Terran player is Thorzain, but he has been in a bit of a slump lately. Not in the team leagues but at least when it comes to the major tournaments for him.
On November 27 2011 09:28 mango_destroyer wrote: atleast the dreamhack crowd knows how to stay in the venue after the win to show support.
So true, it's so bad to watch the crowd from MLGs to immediately get up and leave before the award is given. At least people in Dreamhack show some respect for the players.
This didn't happen at all the MLG's... remember Anaheim and Columbus were amazing. It's just the venue they chose at Providence, the population there didn't seem as into the game. It's not something MLG can control if the crowd wants to leave... but next time, MLG may smarten up and hold their events in SoCal from now on. Why risk poor crowds traveling around when you can have an awesome crowd every time in Anaheim?
People are trying to compare apples to oranges and forget the MLG is a traveling thing and always deals with a different venue, a way different type of tournament, and a way different business model.
How is that relevant to whether the crowd stays 5 more minutes to watch the award being given?
75 percent of the crowd was standing throughout all of MLG.
Of course they are going to leave when it is done. Car is the only place to sit FFS.
Yeah the seating situation at MLG was god awful. My legs were not pleased.
I thought my knees were going to shatter.
Don't worry, these people talking nonsense have probably never been to a live event in their life where they had to stand for 12 hours a day to watch something, and had real life obligations after several hours of travel.
That parking lot thing was silly too, $12 to leave or something (in Orlando) so that was out of the question to get food.
Yeah I guess expecting respect from people was too much.
On November 27 2011 09:28 mango_destroyer wrote: atleast the dreamhack crowd knows how to stay in the venue after the win to show support.
So true, it's so bad to watch the crowd from MLGs to immediately get up and leave before the award is given. At least people in Dreamhack show some respect for the players.
This didn't happen at all the MLG's... remember Anaheim and Columbus were amazing. It's just the venue they chose at Providence, the population there didn't seem as into the game. It's not something MLG can control if the crowd wants to leave... but next time, MLG may smarten up and hold their events in SoCal from now on. Why risk poor crowds traveling around when you can have an awesome crowd every time in Anaheim?
People are trying to compare apples to oranges and forget the MLG is a traveling thing and always deals with a different venue, a way different type of tournament, and a way different business model.
How is that relevant to whether the crowd stays 5 more minutes to watch the award being given?
75 percent of the crowd was standing throughout all of MLG.
Of course they are going to leave when it is done. Car is the only place to sit FFS.
Yeah the seating situation at MLG was god awful. My legs were not pleased.
I thought my knees were going to shatter.
Don't worry, these people talking nonsense have probably never been to a live event in their life where they had to stand for 12 hours a day to watch something, and had real life obligations after several hours of travel.
That parking lot thing was silly too, $12 to leave or something (in Orlando) so that was out of the question to get food.
In New England it is very common to get stuck in the parking for garage for 4 to 6 hours depending on how many accidents happen.
Honestly I wanted to leave when leenock threw down the roach warren but I could not find my friend.
I am sure CHAIRS would be a really good investment, but you also get idiots who reserve 4 seats for there friends.
On November 27 2011 09:06 Mohdoo wrote: Puma can't compete with Hero in a macro game.
The better player wins
*race
you mean, by abusing timings and all in ? Bravo Hero ! Manner nexus is the way to win ! Also great sniping with the stalkers :D
HerO is also extremly abusive, so stop it.
elaborate.
I want to hear this because I already debunked the 3gate all in and the 4gate play.
please proceed Mr. know-it-all.
The facts are all in the VODS and replays.
You didn't get the memo? This is a LR thread
Player wins early game, it was cheese. Player wins mid game, it was an X or Y all in. Player wins lategame, it was imba and abusive.
Jeez
That 2 forge play was kind of abusive, though at one point puma had 118 supply and hero 98 because of it so it obviously has its weaknesses, if only puma had scanned early, if only he waited for 3-3 to finish before completely slaughtering hero in that engagement. Anyways, despite having a terran heart I like Hero better so I guess it was a win/win situation for me.
How was it an abusive play?
So in your mind.
Upgrading is abusive and allinish.
Going for ghosts before medivacs isnt? shiet man get ur shit together.
Going for double forge as fast as he did is a massive corner cut, it's not allinish, I consider it more abusive then lets say, a hidden early 3rd, I am not saying it's not legitimate, I just don't like gambles and knowing that the opponent can straight up kill you if he spots it is a gamble, you seem to confuse abusive play with allins.
Just a misunderstanding here I think will clear up this argument. 2 forge isn't abusive, the word you're looking for is GREEDY, but as we know how pivotal upgrades are for Toss vs the Bioball, I find it hard to even call it greedy anymore. It's just rushing to get the ground advantage.
On November 27 2011 09:28 mango_destroyer wrote: atleast the dreamhack crowd knows how to stay in the venue after the win to show support.
So true, it's so bad to watch the crowd from MLGs to immediately get up and leave before the award is given. At least people in Dreamhack show some respect for the players.
This didn't happen at all the MLG's... remember Anaheim and Columbus were amazing. It's just the venue they chose at Providence, the population there didn't seem as into the game. It's not something MLG can control if the crowd wants to leave... but next time, MLG may smarten up and hold their events in SoCal from now on. Why risk poor crowds traveling around when you can have an awesome crowd every time in Anaheim?
People are trying to compare apples to oranges and forget the MLG is a traveling thing and always deals with a different venue, a way different type of tournament, and a way different business model.
How is that relevant to whether the crowd stays 5 more minutes to watch the award being given?
75 percent of the crowd was standing throughout all of MLG.
Of course they are going to leave when it is done. Car is the only place to sit FFS.
Yeah the seating situation at MLG was god awful. My legs were not pleased.
I thought my knees were going to shatter.
Don't worry, these people talking nonsense have probably never been to a live event in their life where they had to stand for 12 hours a day to watch something, and had real life obligations after several hours of travel.
That parking lot thing was silly too, $12 to leave or something (in Orlando) so that was out of the question to get food.
Yeah I guess expecting respect from people was too much.
On November 27 2011 09:28 mango_destroyer wrote: atleast the dreamhack crowd knows how to stay in the venue after the win to show support.
So true, it's so bad to watch the crowd from MLGs to immediately get up and leave before the award is given. At least people in Dreamhack show some respect for the players.
This didn't happen at all the MLG's... remember Anaheim and Columbus were amazing. It's just the venue they chose at Providence, the population there didn't seem as into the game. It's not something MLG can control if the crowd wants to leave... but next time, MLG may smarten up and hold their events in SoCal from now on. Why risk poor crowds traveling around when you can have an awesome crowd every time in Anaheim?
People are trying to compare apples to oranges and forget the MLG is a traveling thing and always deals with a different venue, a way different type of tournament, and a way different business model.
Agreed. However, I do want to emphasize that I feel MLG should be stationary in SoCal. I'm not being biased here as I don't live in Socal. But the crowd in Anaheim/LA is just unmatched in SC2 and they always pack the venues. I don't understand the point of the traveling thing, it doesn't do much for the business IMO.
Traveling allows all players to be able to make it out to at least one MLG if they live in the US generally. Gives everyone a shot. Also, MLG usually stays on the east coast because more CoD and Halo teams live on the east coast.
MLG's traveling format has shown us that players (ok, at least SC2 players) are highly willing to travel to go to high-profile tournaments. MLG has the visibility and prize pool to make a power move like deciding to base its league out of one city.
And (as was mentioned on the recent SotG) think how awesome this would be for American SC2. Easier access to players and personalities for media, more interaction and practice between players (it would br easy to transition to a Korean-style team house based culture), and, on balance, less traveling and more rest and practice for the pros. Every profession has hubs where the best concentrate (I'm thinking US lawyers in NYC, for example) -- why not progamer?
Actually, there is a good argument that MLG's traveling format makes progaming less accessible for players. Instead of a one-time move to a central eSports hub, they have to lay out for plane tickets and hotels every month. Attending one MLG that happens to be nearby is not enough to sustain a professional career.
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