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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
November 25 2011 12:48 GMT
#2141
Anyone not listening to the chiptune playlist on Apollo stream is missing out! lol
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
November 25 2011 12:48 GMT
#2142
On November 25 2011 21:43 Mainland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:31 Pandemona wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:28 Koshi wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:09 Koshi wrote:
And this is why the GSL format is "better" or "fairer". No discussion possible.

I used too little words in that statement.

No discussion possible.

I was referring to trowing games, not about what the best system is. Especially in a tournament were only a limited amount of teams participate, round robin will always fuel discussion about trowing games.

I dislike the GSL Bo1 format, but if there were Bo3. I don't think we can use round robin in SCII, too much chance of people trowing games. Not caring about your last game, and playing worse than your first game, is pretty annoying as well.




I guess i agree with you, GSL format is good, IF they had BO3 games because BO1s are stupid idea and always will be. Like having a 1 set tennis match etc etc.

So many tourneys these 2 months hard to keep up!


The round robin format they're using at DH is already bo1. The bo1 argument doesn't apply here. Of course having a bo3 is preferable to a single game, but only if time allows.

Compared to the OSL/GSL format, the round robin format plays one extra game per group. The problem with the round robin is that for as many as two games, it doesn't matter for one of the competitors if they win or lose. Even in the case where all the games matter, ties need to be broken with arbitrary rules that are inconsistent from competition to competition, which make the tournament more difficult to follow. The good thing about the OSL/GSL format is that all 5 games matter no matter what, and the people who advance have beaten the people who don't.


....Dreamhack doesn't use bo1. And they easily have time for bo3 w/ the GSL setup as it should take exactly as long as their current one.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
November 25 2011 12:48 GMT
#2143
omg wow, cloud beat naniwa <3 nice
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
bbm
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1320 Posts
November 25 2011 12:48 GMT
#2144
wait is this some kind of IT support folk song
By.Sun or By.Rain, he always delivers
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
November 25 2011 12:49 GMT
#2145
N64 WaveRace on DHTV2 hel yah
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 25 2011 12:49 GMT
#2146
*claps and stomps*
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 25 2011 12:49 GMT
#2147
Lol, wth is this xD I hope they release a tracklist after DH...
Mainland
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 12:53:59
November 25 2011 12:49 GMT
#2148
On November 25 2011 21:48 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:43 Mainland wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:31 Pandemona wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:28 Koshi wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:09 Koshi wrote:
And this is why the GSL format is "better" or "fairer". No discussion possible.

I used too little words in that statement.

No discussion possible.

I was referring to trowing games, not about what the best system is. Especially in a tournament were only a limited amount of teams participate, round robin will always fuel discussion about trowing games.

I dislike the GSL Bo1 format, but if there were Bo3. I don't think we can use round robin in SCII, too much chance of people trowing games. Not caring about your last game, and playing worse than your first game, is pretty annoying as well.




I guess i agree with you, GSL format is good, IF they had BO3 games because BO1s are stupid idea and always will be. Like having a 1 set tennis match etc etc.

So many tourneys these 2 months hard to keep up!


The round robin format they're using at DH is already bo1. The bo1 argument doesn't apply here. Of course having a bo3 is preferable to a single game, but only if time allows.

Compared to the OSL/GSL format, the round robin format plays one extra game per group. The problem with the round robin is that for as many as two games, it doesn't matter for one of the competitors if they win or lose. Even in the case where all the games matter, ties need to be broken with arbitrary rules that are inconsistent from competition to competition, which make the tournament more difficult to follow. The good thing about the OSL/GSL format is that all 5 games matter no matter what, and the people who advance have beaten the people who don't.


....Dreamhack doesn't use bo1. And they easily have time for bo3 w/ the GSL setup as it should take exactly as long as their current one.


Comparing the groups at DH to the groups at GSL, all the players play each other once. If that's not what people mean by bo1, please explain what they mean.

*OK so I was being stupid about the bo1/bo3 stuff
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
November 25 2011 12:50 GMT
#2149
GOD DAMN IT DREAMHACK!
Rolled
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 25 2011 12:50 GMT
#2150
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

Why ;_;
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
November 25 2011 12:50 GMT
#2151
On November 25 2011 21:49 Mainland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:48 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:43 Mainland wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:31 Pandemona wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:28 Koshi wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:09 Koshi wrote:
And this is why the GSL format is "better" or "fairer". No discussion possible.

I used too little words in that statement.

No discussion possible.

I was referring to trowing games, not about what the best system is. Especially in a tournament were only a limited amount of teams participate, round robin will always fuel discussion about trowing games.

I dislike the GSL Bo1 format, but if there were Bo3. I don't think we can use round robin in SCII, too much chance of people trowing games. Not caring about your last game, and playing worse than your first game, is pretty annoying as well.




I guess i agree with you, GSL format is good, IF they had BO3 games because BO1s are stupid idea and always will be. Like having a 1 set tennis match etc etc.

So many tourneys these 2 months hard to keep up!


The round robin format they're using at DH is already bo1. The bo1 argument doesn't apply here. Of course having a bo3 is preferable to a single game, but only if time allows.

Compared to the OSL/GSL format, the round robin format plays one extra game per group. The problem with the round robin is that for as many as two games, it doesn't matter for one of the competitors if they win or lose. Even in the case where all the games matter, ties need to be broken with arbitrary rules that are inconsistent from competition to competition, which make the tournament more difficult to follow. The good thing about the OSL/GSL format is that all 5 games matter no matter what, and the people who advance have beaten the people who don't.


....Dreamhack doesn't use bo1. And they easily have time for bo3 w/ the GSL setup as it should take exactly as long as their current one.


Comparing the groups at DH to the groups at GSL, all the players play each other once. If that's not what people mean by bo1, please explain what they mean.


bo1 = best of 1 = playing a match is only 1 game. They play a best of 3 against each opponent.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
November 25 2011 12:50 GMT
#2152
OK.

I'm pissed off now.

I just got rickrolled.

Along with 10k+ persons.
Join the Liquipedia Zerg Project ! PM me for more information :).
Horp
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden164 Posts
November 25 2011 12:50 GMT
#2153
Yea totally rolled there...
Akiit
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway39 Posts
November 25 2011 12:50 GMT
#2154
Man Dreamhack and Homestory cup never fail to deliver awsome music :D
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 25 2011 12:51 GMT
#2155
Hahahaha
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Poyo
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada790 Posts
November 25 2011 12:51 GMT
#2156
Never gonna give you up!
Poyo! poyo! poyo! poyo! poyo!
Bromazepam
Profile Joined August 2011
820 Posts
November 25 2011 12:51 GMT
#2157
Dreamhack rickrolls ten thousand people. At the same time.
Saying that something is killing esports is killing esports.
bbm
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1320 Posts
November 25 2011 12:51 GMT
#2158
On November 25 2011 21:49 Mainland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 21:48 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:43 Mainland wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:31 Pandemona wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:28 Koshi wrote:
On November 25 2011 21:09 Koshi wrote:
And this is why the GSL format is "better" or "fairer". No discussion possible.

I used too little words in that statement.

No discussion possible.

I was referring to trowing games, not about what the best system is. Especially in a tournament were only a limited amount of teams participate, round robin will always fuel discussion about trowing games.

I dislike the GSL Bo1 format, but if there were Bo3. I don't think we can use round robin in SCII, too much chance of people trowing games. Not caring about your last game, and playing worse than your first game, is pretty annoying as well.




I guess i agree with you, GSL format is good, IF they had BO3 games because BO1s are stupid idea and always will be. Like having a 1 set tennis match etc etc.

So many tourneys these 2 months hard to keep up!


The round robin format they're using at DH is already bo1. The bo1 argument doesn't apply here. Of course having a bo3 is preferable to a single game, but only if time allows.

Compared to the OSL/GSL format, the round robin format plays one extra game per group. The problem with the round robin is that for as many as two games, it doesn't matter for one of the competitors if they win or lose. Even in the case where all the games matter, ties need to be broken with arbitrary rules that are inconsistent from competition to competition, which make the tournament more difficult to follow. The good thing about the OSL/GSL format is that all 5 games matter no matter what, and the people who advance have beaten the people who don't.


....Dreamhack doesn't use bo1. And they easily have time for bo3 w/ the GSL setup as it should take exactly as long as their current one.


Comparing the groups at DH to the groups at GSL, all the players play each other once. If that's not what people mean by bo1, please explain what they mean.


bo1 almost always refers to the amount of matches played between two players in one go. So, for example, bo1 is one game played, bo3 is 3 games played (or first to two) (which is what's happening here and in most places)

GSL gets some slack for having bo1s in group stages, which can be very unforgiving if you're caught off guard once.
By.Sun or By.Rain, he always delivers
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
November 25 2011 12:52 GMT
#2159
Did they just rickrolled 10k people?

They keep people listening with good music, then do that... what a bunch of evil swedes.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 25 2011 12:52 GMT
#2160
I predict Erasure - Always as the next song.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
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