Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!

figq

12519 Posts

November 25 2011 12:52 GMT

#2161

I don't recall ever listening to better music selection, or at least recently. :D

ladyumbra

Canada1699 Posts

November 25 2011 12:52 GMT

#2162

On November 25 2011 21:52 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I predict Erasure - Always as the next song.

I would be 100% ok with that.

Mainland

Canada551 Posts

November 25 2011 12:53 GMT

#2163

On November 25 2011 21:50 I_Love_Bacon wrote:

Show nested quote +

On November 25 2011 21:49 Mainland wrote:

On November 25 2011 21:48 I_Love_Bacon wrote:

On November 25 2011 21:43 Mainland wrote:

On November 25 2011 21:31 Pandemona wrote:

On November 25 2011 21:28 Koshi wrote:

On November 25 2011 21:09 Koshi wrote:
And this is why the GSL format is "better" or "fairer". No discussion possible.

I used too little words in that statement.

No discussion possible.

I was referring to trowing games, not about what the best system is. Especially in a tournament were only a limited amount of teams participate, round robin will always fuel discussion about trowing games.

I dislike the GSL Bo1 format, but if there were Bo3. I don't think we can use round robin in SCII, too much chance of people trowing games. Not caring about your last game, and playing worse than your first game, is pretty annoying as well.

I guess i agree with you, GSL format is good, IF they had BO3 games because BO1s are stupid idea and always will be. Like having a 1 set tennis match etc etc.

So many tourneys these 2 months hard to keep up!

The round robin format they're using at DH is already bo1. The bo1 argument doesn't apply here. Of course having a bo3 is preferable to a single game, but only if time allows.

Compared to the OSL/GSL format, the round robin format plays one extra game per group. The problem with the round robin is that for as many as two games, it doesn't matter for one of the competitors if they win or lose. Even in the case where all the games matter, ties need to be broken with arbitrary rules that are inconsistent from competition to competition, which make the tournament more difficult to follow. The good thing about the OSL/GSL format is that all 5 games matter no matter what, and the people who advance have beaten the people who don't.

....Dreamhack doesn't use bo1. And they easily have time for bo3 w/ the GSL setup as it should take exactly as long as their current one.

Comparing the groups at DH to the groups at GSL, all the players play each other once. If that's not what people mean by bo1, please explain what they mean.

bo1 = best of 1 = playing a match is only 1 game. They play a best of 3 against each opponent.

Ok I wasn't thinking straight.

iKill

Denmark861 Posts

November 25 2011 12:53 GMT

#2164

Going to xpost this from reddit so as many people as possible see it

I want to set up an on-site livestream @ DreamHack to show the event to people at home. I need help

Ok, so here's the plan. A lot of people have been requesting that the main DH stream show some actual event footage inbetween matches. I'm not affiliated with DH (I'm purely a spectator), but I want to try and help out.
If DH gets their wireless fixed (atm it's a bucket of junk) I'll do my best to try and provide a livestream of the event, rather than just the matches.
I need some help though; atm I've got an iPhone 3GS and a laptop /w webcam at my disposal, which means shitty image quality. Also, if you guys want interviews (which would be super awesome to do) it would be nice to have 1 or 2 redditors at DH that can help me out.
In short, if you've got an iPhone 4 or better (really, any smartphone with a good camera will do) or want to talk to people on camera, we can set something up. If you're local and have a working 3G connection, even better.
Hit me up on PM or @ seat 68:43 at DHW (Hall D).

Let's get something rolling

Itsmedudeman

United States19229 Posts

November 25 2011 12:53 GMT

#2165

On November 25 2011 21:50 I_Love_Bacon wrote:

Show nested quote +

On November 25 2011 21:49 Mainland wrote:

On November 25 2011 21:48 I_Love_Bacon wrote:

On November 25 2011 21:43 Mainland wrote:

On November 25 2011 21:31 Pandemona wrote:

On November 25 2011 21:28 Koshi wrote:

On November 25 2011 21:09 Koshi wrote:
And this is why the GSL format is "better" or "fairer". No discussion possible.

I used too little words in that statement.

No discussion possible.

....Dreamhack doesn't use bo1. And they easily have time for bo3 w/ the GSL setup as it should take exactly as long as their current one.

Comparing the groups at DH to the groups at GSL, all the players play each other once. If that's not what people mean by bo1, please explain what they mean.

bo1 = best of 1 = playing a match is only 1 game. They play a best of 3 against each opponent.

This is only possible because they have 3 games running at once. It'd be really lame if you had to miss out on 2/3 GSL games.

Jomppa

1225 Posts

November 25 2011 12:54 GMT

#2166

trolololol

Poyo

Canada790 Posts

November 25 2011 12:54 GMT

#2167

What the... lol

KiNGxXx

7928 Posts

November 25 2011 12:54 GMT

#2168

Trolololololololo OMG sick DJ xD

WaSa

Sweden749 Posts

November 25 2011 12:54 GMT

#2169

rofl trolololol

Ahelvin

France1866 Posts

November 25 2011 12:54 GMT

#2170

This is getting ridiculous.

Trolololo...

pPingu

Switzerland2892 Posts

November 25 2011 12:54 GMT

#2171

...

Those swedes are devil himself...

trololo guy

hammarfOu

Sweden363 Posts

November 25 2011 12:54 GMT

#2172

trolololo

Bromazepam

820 Posts

November 25 2011 12:54 GMT

#2173

Well played, Dreamhack audio guy. Well played.

boretusmax

Finland75 Posts

November 25 2011 12:54 GMT

#2174

That was simply evil..

leo23

United States3075 Posts

November 25 2011 12:54 GMT

#2175

Just woke up. Grack, Puma and HuK were in the same group? Hahaha poor eg! does this mean grack is out?

stephano is out aswell?

AlternativeEgo

Sweden17309 Posts

November 25 2011 12:56 GMT

#2176

On November 25 2011 21:54 leo23 wrote:
Just woke up. Grack, Puma and HuK were in the same group? Hahaha poor eg! does this mean grack is out?

stephano is out aswell?

Yes, yes and...yes.

pdd

Australia9933 Posts

November 25 2011 12:56 GMT

#2177

On November 25 2011 21:54 leo23 wrote:
Just woke up. Grack, Puma and HuK were in the same group? Hahaha poor eg! does this mean grack is out?

stephano is out aswell?

Yes to both.

tnud

Sweden2233 Posts

November 25 2011 12:56 GMT

#2178

On November 25 2011 21:54 leo23 wrote:
Just woke up. Grack, Puma and HuK were in the same group? Hahaha poor eg! does this mean grack is out?

stephano is out aswell?

Grack and Stephano is out, neither played well. Overall I'm happy with those that has gone through, no "upset" in terms of day form.