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wow, tasteless had good party yesterday? :D
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To think, people were considering watching Dreamhack over the GSL.
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tasteless looks soooooo tired ^^
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On November 24 2011 21:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Why is thorzain floating so much the entire game...
Becuase Select keept killing his refineries. He was seriously lacking gas
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Mech winning against bio makes me happy panda. :3
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+ Show Spoiler +LOL sorry SC i shouldn't have thought so harshly of you in your game against MVP.
I think im just going to watch this tourney at its final stages. Its really difficult to enjoy this game after seeing all these sloppy mistakes compared to GSL. Sorry to anyone if i sounded spoilt.
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On November 24 2011 21:02 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 20:57 gold_ wrote:On November 24 2011 20:54 Velr wrote:On November 24 2011 20:49 february wrote:On November 24 2011 20:46 bgx wrote:On November 24 2011 20:41 february wrote:On November 24 2011 20:37 bgx wrote:On November 24 2011 20:36 february wrote:On November 24 2011 20:33 KinQuh wrote:On November 24 2011 20:32 february wrote:
I don't mean to be a dick, but players like really Goody need to get better or just fade away. The fact that he was able to stay in the game that long with absolutely zero thought or talent is devaluating SC2 progaming as a whole. Players like that should not exist after a year of really impressive SC2 development and we should expect more from progamers at this point. So 80% on NA has to fade away? Beating up on random players on ladder means nothing. We have to hold progamers to a certain standard at this point. Amazing players like Hero and Huk and Idra and countless others are amazing talents and the fact that Goody can continue to play with the same build in every matchup with such low speed and flexibility is simply unacceptable for a progamer. He'll either adapt to the game or (most likely) simply fade from the scene, play like that shouldn't exist at this point in SC2 competition. same was said 1 year ago  Yeah, when people were still clueless about how the game is supposed to be played. Goody has shown absolutely no flexibility in his game and if he continues to play this absurdly stupid style all the time he will be left behind. And I really hope that happens soon, such ridiculous, unentertaining games don't deserve to be casted. depends how high you set the bar, if i said that i want to see real progamers and all that shit all current progamers should retire, because their mechanics "suck", by foreigner standards goody will be relevant for years(if the current game balance stays). Not true, we've seen massive improvement in SC2 progaming. There are plenty of players who are constantly pushing the bar with their multitasking, build orders and tactics. SC2 is finally getting exciting with real progamers facing off against each other at the highest levels of competition. Players like Goody need to improve or just die off, there is no room for mediocrity in SC2 anymore. After seeing Idra vs Nestea at MLG i actually wondered if SC2 should even be an E-Sport. Both players played a BO (with mistakes) until one guy overcomitted on his BO-Advantage and then lost. If progamers are doing shit like this, they should not be progamers (and most likely would not be in SC/BW, at least they would not be on TV for more than 1-2 games ).. Naniwa vs Nestea wasn't much better... One game was decided by Nestea playing blind and the final game just stupid.. There is tons of room in SC2 for mediocrity. The very best players often show TERRIBLE decisions. Goodys playstile/gameplan seems to exploit exactly that: Set defense up --> Let stupid opponent charge head on into it --> Counter --> Profit. Someone always has to whine about something right? but what he says is true, you can see so many "top", "best of the best" games, and count 10 mistakes before players even engage their armies, and some mistakes are still elementary (like famous Puma supplyblocks). I feel like there is still so much mediocrity, but because casters try to overhype every single move someone does (4zergling vs zealot micro seriously? Thats platinium level of micro and everyone in platinium should be able to micro zerglings vs 1 zealot, why someone would hype that?)
Eh, why use a hyperbole to reinforce your point when you hate casters doing it in the opposite direction? I've been in platinum for quite a while in the past and if you saw platinum level of micro you'd probably call it bronze level...
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Wow, Tasteless looks like a mess. He must be jetlagged as hell. Artosis looks fine though
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On November 24 2011 20:54 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 20:49 february wrote:On November 24 2011 20:46 bgx wrote:On November 24 2011 20:41 february wrote:On November 24 2011 20:37 bgx wrote:On November 24 2011 20:36 february wrote:On November 24 2011 20:33 KinQuh wrote:On November 24 2011 20:32 february wrote:
I don't mean to be a dick, but players like really Goody need to get better or just fade away. The fact that he was able to stay in the game that long with absolutely zero thought or talent is devaluating SC2 progaming as a whole. Players like that should not exist after a year of really impressive SC2 development and we should expect more from progamers at this point. So 80% on NA has to fade away? Beating up on random players on ladder means nothing. We have to hold progamers to a certain standard at this point. Amazing players like Hero and Huk and Idra and countless others are amazing talents and the fact that Goody can continue to play with the same build in every matchup with such low speed and flexibility is simply unacceptable for a progamer. He'll either adapt to the game or (most likely) simply fade from the scene, play like that shouldn't exist at this point in SC2 competition. same was said 1 year ago Yeah, when people were still clueless about how the game is supposed to be played. Goody has shown absolutely no flexibility in his game and if he continues to play this absurdly stupid style all the time he will be left behind. And I really hope that happens soon, such ridiculous, unentertaining games don't deserve to be casted. depends how high you set the bar, if i said that i want to see real progamers and all that shit all current progamers should retire, because their mechanics "suck", by foreigner standards goody will be relevant for years(if the current game balance stays). Not true, we've seen massive improvement in SC2 progaming. There are plenty of players who are constantly pushing the bar with their multitasking, build orders and tactics. SC2 is finally getting exciting with real progamers facing off against each other at the highest levels of competition. Players like Goody need to improve or just die off, there is no room for mediocrity in SC2 anymore. After seeing Idra vs Nestea at MLG i actually wondered if SC2 should even be an E-Sport. Both players played a BO (with mistakes) until one guy overcomitted on his BO-Advantage and then lost. If progamers are doing shit like this, they should not be progamers (and most likely would not be in SC/BW, at least they would not be on TV for more than 1-2 games ).. Naniwa vs Nestea wasn't much better... One game was decided by Nestea playing blind and the final game just stupid.. There is tons of room in SC2 for mediocrity. The very best players often show TERRIBLE decisions. Goodys playstile/gameplan seems to exploit exactly that: Set defense up --> Let stupid opponent charge head on into it --> Counter --> Profit.
I agree, there is tons of room for improvement. Two years from now the games people are playing now will look silly. But really? Guys like Goody have proven nothing compared to the top level progamers. They exist at the fringe of real competition and rely on terrible builds. If he doesn't improve the game will leave him behind, and seeing him have this level of success a year into SC2 is really frustrating to me, especially when his games are being casted by the best of the best for our entertainment.
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How long till next matches start?
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Tasteless has an eye infection. (Atleast thats what he said)
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On November 24 2011 21:07 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 21:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Why is thorzain floating so much the entire game... Becuase Select keept killing his refineries. He was seriously lacking gas
No he had like 1k/1k for 10 minutes
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On November 24 2011 21:06 iNViCiOUZ wrote:
Is Titan from Group O vVvTitan?
No, it's the former NE player from Russia
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On November 24 2011 21:08 poorcloud wrote:+ Show Spoiler +LOL sorry SC i shouldn't have thought so harshly of you in your game against MVP.
Thanks for the spoiler - maybe use your brain next time before spoilering a Ro8 GSL game in another LR?
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On November 24 2011 21:08 february wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 20:54 Velr wrote:On November 24 2011 20:49 february wrote:On November 24 2011 20:46 bgx wrote:On November 24 2011 20:41 february wrote:On November 24 2011 20:37 bgx wrote:On November 24 2011 20:36 february wrote:On November 24 2011 20:33 KinQuh wrote:On November 24 2011 20:32 february wrote:
I don't mean to be a dick, but players like really Goody need to get better or just fade away. The fact that he was able to stay in the game that long with absolutely zero thought or talent is devaluating SC2 progaming as a whole. Players like that should not exist after a year of really impressive SC2 development and we should expect more from progamers at this point. So 80% on NA has to fade away? Beating up on random players on ladder means nothing. We have to hold progamers to a certain standard at this point. Amazing players like Hero and Huk and Idra and countless others are amazing talents and the fact that Goody can continue to play with the same build in every matchup with such low speed and flexibility is simply unacceptable for a progamer. He'll either adapt to the game or (most likely) simply fade from the scene, play like that shouldn't exist at this point in SC2 competition. same was said 1 year ago Yeah, when people were still clueless about how the game is supposed to be played. Goody has shown absolutely no flexibility in his game and if he continues to play this absurdly stupid style all the time he will be left behind. And I really hope that happens soon, such ridiculous, unentertaining games don't deserve to be casted. depends how high you set the bar, if i said that i want to see real progamers and all that shit all current progamers should retire, because their mechanics "suck", by foreigner standards goody will be relevant for years(if the current game balance stays). Not true, we've seen massive improvement in SC2 progaming. There are plenty of players who are constantly pushing the bar with their multitasking, build orders and tactics. SC2 is finally getting exciting with real progamers facing off against each other at the highest levels of competition. Players like Goody need to improve or just die off, there is no room for mediocrity in SC2 anymore. After seeing Idra vs Nestea at MLG i actually wondered if SC2 should even be an E-Sport. Both players played a BO (with mistakes) until one guy overcomitted on his BO-Advantage and then lost. If progamers are doing shit like this, they should not be progamers (and most likely would not be in SC/BW, at least they would not be on TV for more than 1-2 games ).. Naniwa vs Nestea wasn't much better... One game was decided by Nestea playing blind and the final game just stupid.. There is tons of room in SC2 for mediocrity. The very best players often show TERRIBLE decisions. Goodys playstile/gameplan seems to exploit exactly that: Set defense up --> Let stupid opponent charge head on into it --> Counter --> Profit. I agree, there is tons of room for improvement. Two years from now the games people are playing now will look silly. But really? Guys like Goody have proven nothing compared to the top level progamers. They exist at the fringe of real competition and rely on terrible builds. If he doesn't improve the game will leave him behind, and seeing him have this level of success a year into SC2 is really frustrating to me, especially when his games are being casted by the best of the best for our entertainment.
Agreed. Players like whitera are able to do well right now due to their decision making and RTS sense. When the general mechanics + game strategic level increase, its hard to see whitera doing well due to his pretty poor mechanics relative to pro level.
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On November 24 2011 21:07 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 21:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Why is thorzain floating so much the entire game... Becuase Select keept killing his refineries. He was seriously lacking gas
He was never lacking gas dude.
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On November 24 2011 21:09 clusen wrote:No, it's the former NE player from Russia
And he is pretty good ( for a less known player).
He should not be underestimated.
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tasteless joke is just golden lol
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On November 24 2011 21:07 Knightess wrote:
tasteless looks tired .__.
He has an eye-infection. Interesting game between Thorzain and Select, enjoying the tournament a lot so far and it will oly get better through the weekend!
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