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On November 25 2011 08:16 Killcani wrote: why is it such a big difference to win something online or on lan?
Technically it's not really a lan. Better latency does usually play a role and nerves, but I wouldn't read much into it especially in Kas' case. He's one of the better Europeans and has been for a while.
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On November 25 2011 08:17 enemy2010 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:15 Tsubbi wrote: not giving respect to his opponents is part of idra's terrible mindset, he should blame himself and only himself for losing to be able to learn and improve from his losses Maybe he does blame himself? How can you say this about someone who "doesnt gg" or seems "bad mannered"?
He does blame himself for losses, he doesn't GG to kas because he doesn't like Kas
He doesn't care what butthurt TL posters say about it either, they are inconsequential.
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On November 25 2011 08:16 Killcani wrote: why is it such a big difference to win something online or on lan?
srsly, it's always online first for up and coming players
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How can they do group selection with group O winner undecided?
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Will Huks group play still today? Any idea?
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They can't make group selection until Group O is finished. Are the last 2 matches even going to be played now, or tomorrow?
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On November 25 2011 08:17 Hrrrrm wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:15 SmoKim wrote:On November 25 2011 08:13 DBrave wrote: äre they gonna show this :
00:30 Draw of Groupstage #2 (Day[9] & MrBitter)
??? 15 min from now Main stream is saying "that's it for today". I would think if they were still going with it, they'd say something about Group Selection Coming up! Who knows though I'll wait 15 min. Edit: And Main Stream goes down 
I think they'll skip it since they already said earlier "see you tomorrow". well they need to get some sleep, we'll see who plays who soon enough
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How can they do group selections anyway when there are still some matches left to be played. Some information on this point would have been really nice =(
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On November 25 2011 08:14 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:13 imr.e wrote:On November 25 2011 08:08 Rammstorm wrote:On November 25 2011 08:03 imr.e wrote:On November 25 2011 08:02 JuuMeijin wrote: I just imagined that macro with mkp control, nearly shat my pants. that'd be just the ultimate terran player (and would required some insane apm) Thta would be MVP, Bomber or MMA? Clearly DH needs more koreans :D none of them have both, only Mvp has the macro but his control could be better, Bomber micro isn't exceptionnal, and I feel like MMA is just a different kind of terran. Bomber micro isn't exceptionnal? Lol. Go watch him vs Annyeong, GSTL playoff vs Prime... Not sure if trolling since Mvp's control is almost unmatched
We're speaking about what'd be if someone had MKP (when he isn't tilting :D) micro and Kas macro.Bomber/Mvp have a better macro but there is still some room for more micro and a better control. The only one you could consider near this description is Mvp. Bomber is a macro beast, but his micro is far from being at the same level.
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On November 25 2011 08:09 Nimic wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:07 Anonymous_Coward wrote:On November 25 2011 08:05 trucane wrote: Way to throw those two games. Can't help but wonder what is going through the heads of players like seala He didn't throw them, he's just bad. Of course he threw them. The two are not mutually exclusive. And either way he was good enough to beat HuK once, and get in a great position twice.
Am I the only one who thinks of fixed games when someone says a player "threw the games"? I mean, whenever you threw a game in i.e. boxing, you'd been paid to lose. If you had the upper-hand, then did something stupid which lead to defeat, people would say "x didn't win the game, y lost it." because you had everything set up for a victory.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that Seala did more damage to himself than what HuK did.. (sorry if the phrasing seems weird, english is not my native language)
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On November 25 2011 08:16 gold_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:15 Thurken wrote: If Grubby is eliminated because of having a worse ratio than deathangel this is a bit silly. Sen will not put enough effort in a game when he is already sure to advance...
Exactly, this will be BS if Grubby doesn't advance.
I agree, I'm not sure what rules Dreamhack has for 3 way ties but I don't think map score is the best way to solve it. However rules are rules so if that's what they have in place then that's how it has to be, maybe it'll be looked at in the future.
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On November 25 2011 08:16 JohnMatrix wrote: No Eeel vs Huk game ? Yeah, any info on this?
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On November 25 2011 08:18 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:17 enemy2010 wrote:On November 25 2011 08:15 Tsubbi wrote: not giving respect to his opponents is part of idra's terrible mindset, he should blame himself and only himself for losing to be able to learn and improve from his losses Maybe he does blame himself? How can you say this about someone who "doesnt gg" or seems "bad mannered"? He does blame himself for losses, he doesn't GG to kas because he doesn't like Kas He doesn't care what butthurt TL posters say about it either, they are inconsequential. Holy shit man, you seem to be a mind reader!
Have you ever met IdrA in person? Ever?
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On November 25 2011 08:18 figq wrote: They can't make group selection until Group O is finished. Are the last 2 matches even going to be played now, or tomorrow?
now, just not streamed cause u know dreamhack.
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I have a feeling that's it for the evening, ladies and gentlemen. Casters need to sleep! See you folks tomorrow.
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They can still do preliminary group selections where they just say "Winner of group O goes in this group" etc.
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On November 25 2011 08:16 trucane wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:12 Fragile51 wrote:On November 25 2011 08:11 Ace.Xile wrote:On November 25 2011 08:09 SpiffD wrote: Idra got 2-0'd by the guy he called terrible just a month ago. Because a month ago the ONLY reason kas won was because idra didn't scout that he was going some weird ass wonky mass hellion no blue fame build, where he built like 12+ hellions and ran in. Idra didn't scout what was Kas was doing and that justifies him calling Kas terrible? Really? Yep Idra fanboys at their finest.
I'm not an idra fanboy just smart enough to realize that the build kas was doing was horrible, and the only reason it worked was because he idra didn't think there was any way he would use some bad build. The build is one of the few builds thats so hard countered it's not even funny. Sweet he made 14 hellions, i'll make 7 roaches and win. It wasn't creative, it wasn't a good build, it was just straight up that idra didn't expect it because it's such a horrible build. If you want to call the fact that kas chose a build and essentially got lucky being good then sure go ahead, but come on really?
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On November 25 2011 08:16 gold_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 08:15 Thurken wrote: If Grubby is eliminated because of having a worse ratio than deathangel this is a bit silly. Sen will not put enough effort in a game when he is already sure to advance...
Exactly, this will be BS if Grubby doesn't advance.
how is it silly that the person that wins more games goes through?
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On November 25 2011 08:16 topoulo wrote: Now huk seems out of shape , sure zerg had some good macro but he was simply massing roaches.
Any early starport build would have own him in 5 -10 mins tops.
Statements like this annoy me.
If the zerg saw an early starport he would have transitioned immediately. That reaction is planned out and trained into them. The reason he massed roaches is he saw NO starport.
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