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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 24 2011 23:18 GMT
#4701
On November 25 2011 08:16 Killcani wrote:
why is it such a big difference to win something online or on lan?


Technically it's not really a lan. Better latency does usually play a role and nerves, but I wouldn't read much into it especially in Kas' case. He's one of the better Europeans and has been for a while.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
November 24 2011 23:18 GMT
#4702
On November 25 2011 08:17 enemy2010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:15 Tsubbi wrote:
not giving respect to his opponents is part of idra's terrible mindset, he should blame himself and only himself for losing to be able to learn and improve from his losses

Maybe he does blame himself?

How can you say this about someone who "doesnt gg" or seems "bad mannered"?


He does blame himself for losses, he doesn't GG to kas because he doesn't like Kas

He doesn't care what butthurt TL posters say about it either, they are inconsequential.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
November 24 2011 23:18 GMT
#4703
On November 25 2011 08:16 Killcani wrote:
why is it such a big difference to win something online or on lan?


srsly, it's always online first for up and coming players
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
November 24 2011 23:18 GMT
#4704
On November 25 2011 08:17 SmoKim wrote:
LOL it's Kas birthday :D good start huh

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=239012

:D :D :D

Very nice!!
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
November 24 2011 23:18 GMT
#4705
How can they do group selection with group O winner undecided?
Maziu
Profile Joined June 2010
51 Posts
November 24 2011 23:18 GMT
#4706
Will Huks group play still today? Any idea?
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
November 24 2011 23:18 GMT
#4707
They can't make group selection until Group O is finished. Are the last 2 matches even going to be played now, or tomorrow?
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
November 24 2011 23:19 GMT
#4708
On November 25 2011 08:17 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:15 SmoKim wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:13 DBrave wrote:
äre they gonna show this :

00:30 Draw of Groupstage #2 (Day[9] & MrBitter)


???


15 min from now


Main stream is saying "that's it for today". I would think if they were still going with it, they'd say something about Group Selection Coming up! Who knows though I'll wait 15 min.

Edit: And Main Stream goes down


I think they'll skip it since they already said earlier "see you tomorrow". well they need to get some sleep, we'll see who plays who soon enough
Molecular
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway15 Posts
November 24 2011 23:19 GMT
#4709
How can they do group selections anyway when there are still some matches left to be played. Some information on this point would have been really nice =(
wha?
imr.e
Profile Joined August 2011
112 Posts
November 24 2011 23:19 GMT
#4710
On November 25 2011 08:14 Poopi wrote:
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On November 25 2011 08:13 imr.e wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:08 Rammstorm wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:03 imr.e wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:02 JuuMeijin wrote:
I just imagined that macro with mkp control, nearly shat my pants.


that'd be just the ultimate terran player (and would required some insane apm)


Thta would be MVP, Bomber or MMA? Clearly DH needs more koreans :D


none of them have both, only Mvp has the macro but his control could be better, Bomber micro isn't exceptionnal, and I feel like MMA is just a different kind of terran.

Bomber micro isn't exceptionnal?
Lol.
Go watch him vs Annyeong, GSTL playoff vs Prime...
Not sure if trolling since Mvp's control is almost unmatched


We're speaking about what'd be if someone had MKP (when he isn't tilting :D) micro and Kas macro.Bomber/Mvp have a better macro but there is still some room for more micro and a better control. The only one you could consider near this description is Mvp. Bomber is a macro beast, but his micro is far from being at the same level.
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
November 24 2011 23:19 GMT
#4711
On November 25 2011 08:09 Nimic wrote:
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On November 25 2011 08:07 Anonymous_Coward wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:05 trucane wrote:
Way to throw those two games. Can't help but wonder what is going through the heads of players like seala


He didn't throw them, he's just bad.


Of course he threw them. The two are not mutually exclusive. And either way he was good enough to beat HuK once, and get in a great position twice.


Am I the only one who thinks of fixed games when someone says a player "threw the games"? I mean, whenever you threw a game in i.e. boxing, you'd been paid to lose. If you had the upper-hand, then did something stupid which lead to defeat, people would say "x didn't win the game, y lost it." because you had everything set up for a victory.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that Seala did more damage to himself than what HuK did.. (sorry if the phrasing seems weird, english is not my native language)
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
Hatorade
Profile Joined July 2010
299 Posts
November 24 2011 23:19 GMT
#4712
On November 25 2011 08:16 gold_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:15 Thurken wrote:
If Grubby is eliminated because of having a worse ratio than deathangel this is a bit silly.
Sen will not put enough effort in a game when he is already sure to advance...

Exactly, this will be BS if Grubby doesn't advance.


I agree, I'm not sure what rules Dreamhack has for 3 way ties but I don't think map score is the best way to solve it. However rules are rules so if that's what they have in place then that's how it has to be, maybe it'll be looked at in the future.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
November 24 2011 23:19 GMT
#4713
On November 25 2011 08:16 JohnMatrix wrote:
No Eeel vs Huk game ?

Yeah, any info on this?
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
November 24 2011 23:19 GMT
#4714
On November 25 2011 08:18 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:17 enemy2010 wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:15 Tsubbi wrote:
not giving respect to his opponents is part of idra's terrible mindset, he should blame himself and only himself for losing to be able to learn and improve from his losses

Maybe he does blame himself?

How can you say this about someone who "doesnt gg" or seems "bad mannered"?


He does blame himself for losses, he doesn't GG to kas because he doesn't like Kas

He doesn't care what butthurt TL posters say about it either, they are inconsequential.

Holy shit man, you seem to be a mind reader!

Have you ever met IdrA in person? Ever?
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
November 24 2011 23:19 GMT
#4715
On November 25 2011 08:18 figq wrote:
They can't make group selection until Group O is finished. Are the last 2 matches even going to be played now, or tomorrow?


now, just not streamed cause u know dreamhack.
Thomanson
Profile Joined November 2011
United States215 Posts
November 24 2011 23:19 GMT
#4716
I have a feeling that's it for the evening, ladies and gentlemen. Casters need to sleep! See you folks tomorrow.
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
November 24 2011 23:20 GMT
#4717
They can still do preliminary group selections where they just say "Winner of group O goes in this group" etc.
Ace.Xile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States286 Posts
November 24 2011 23:20 GMT
#4718
On November 25 2011 08:16 trucane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:12 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:11 Ace.Xile wrote:
On November 25 2011 08:09 SpiffD wrote:
Idra got 2-0'd by the guy he called terrible just a month ago.



Because a month ago the ONLY reason kas won was because idra didn't scout that he was going some weird ass wonky mass hellion no blue fame build, where he built like 12+ hellions and ran in.


Idra didn't scout what was Kas was doing and that justifies him calling Kas terrible? Really?


Yep Idra fanboys at their finest.


I'm not an idra fanboy just smart enough to realize that the build kas was doing was horrible, and the only reason it worked was because he idra didn't think there was any way he would use some bad build. The build is one of the few builds thats so hard countered it's not even funny. Sweet he made 14 hellions, i'll make 7 roaches and win. It wasn't creative, it wasn't a good build, it was just straight up that idra didn't expect it because it's such a horrible build. If you want to call the fact that kas chose a build and essentially got lucky being good then sure go ahead, but come on really?
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
November 24 2011 23:20 GMT
#4719
On November 25 2011 08:16 gold_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 08:15 Thurken wrote:
If Grubby is eliminated because of having a worse ratio than deathangel this is a bit silly.
Sen will not put enough effort in a game when he is already sure to advance...

Exactly, this will be BS if Grubby doesn't advance.


how is it silly that the person that wins more games goes through?
Kharnage
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia920 Posts
November 24 2011 23:20 GMT
#4720
On November 25 2011 08:16 topoulo wrote:
Now huk seems out of shape , sure zerg had some good macro but he was simply massing roaches.

Any early starport build would have own him in 5 -10 mins tops.


Statements like this annoy me.

If the zerg saw an early starport he would have transitioned immediately. That reaction is planned out and trained into them. The reason he massed roaches is he saw NO starport.
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