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Thursday, Nov 17 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
EU: Thursday, Nov 17 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
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pumped!! NASL is so good!  Can't wait!!
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Who is playing in the round of 32? Any notables or any way to check?
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United States97276 Posts
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That's sad it's too late for europeans. GO GO Stephano !
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Aww, right in the middle of my exam today T_T guess I'll just have to skip Day 1.
TargA and Shuffle fighting! Gogo SEA ownage
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Are this the only games that'll be casted from the RO32?
A bit disappointing, would've liked to see Grubby vs August, Pokebunny vs Major, Crazymovin vs Loner and Stephano vs LiveZerg.
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gatored is going to take it
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Interesting choice of games. I assume they've seen them all and picked the most exciting ones from the first round.
That said, I'm mostly interested in game 1.
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We will release all the reps after the tournamet so people can see all the games. Due to time constraints ... We cant cast all the first few rounds.
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That's completely understandable, I'd rather focus on the main tournament and just watch a few of the qualifier games, plus, the later rounds are more interesting anyway and I trust you that you casted the best games available from this round. That said, I don't really care about most of the games, because from my expectations I won't see most of these players in the final four anyway, so I wouldn't bother to follow their way through the tournament.
I'm always open for surprises, though.
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:D. Can't wait to watch these games. Seems like some of them were played up to five weeks ago, but from what i've accidentally spoiled myself with, I won't wanna miss them!
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livezerg was talking about being in top16 or 8 of some NASl qualifier, which qualifier was that
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On November 17 2011 07:48 Sfydjklm wrote:
livezerg was talking about being in top16 or 8 of some NASl qualifier, which qualifier was that
Probably the Open Tournament, that qualified him for this Semi Open.
Look at Bracket 2.
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Not too bad of a line up. A couple of up and coming players like Mentalist and Gatored
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What are these lovely maps?!
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I'm sorry but Zelniq really needs to up his game.
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On November 17 2011 11:43 Dexington wrote:
lol KR calling out TPW
just got here, what happened?
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On November 17 2011 11:46 SMD wrote:just got here, what happened?
This game just started, KR spent like 2 minutes hating on the map.
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Zelniq...was horrible. Does he know about the fungal growth ability? So many times he had infestors with large amounts of energy just waddling away from large groups of marines. I can't understand why he didn't use fungal growth, surely he knows that marines are faster than infestors...
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United States7166 Posts
so not only was the casting extremely unfair, probably one of the most unfairly harsh casts I've ever heard.. now I've random hate that's just flat out not true. I just went over the replay, not a single time did that happen. In fact the only infestor that ever got killed with fungal energy was right before the end, when i was reacting to a drop and he sniped one infestor at that time.
I'll admit I made some bad decisions that game.. but the major ones weren't even mentioned by either of the casters because they were too busy criticizing me for things that didn't even make sense, overly berating me for things that were relatively insignificant, because their knowledge/understanding is lacking.
Like for example they went on a huge tirade about how stupid and terrible I am for getting +2 air attack, when I had suddenly stopped muta production and switched to infestors. Is it really so hard to understand that I started that +2 attack before I noticed he was only going marine? My mutas saw a forward factory w/ tech lab, and most every terran gets tanks. But once I noticed that he wasnt getting tanks, that's when I started going pure ling/bane/infestor. They've no excuses, they both piled on me yet could clearly see how far along the upgrade was. Another example was shortly before the end, after a battle went in my opponent's favor, and all I had left over were a few infestors all with < 75 energy off creep, there were stimmed marines were chasing them down and there was no way for them to escape. So when the infestors spammed their remaining energy on infested terrans before dying, gretorp points out how dumb I am for casting the infested terrans in a spot that blocked the infestors from retreating.............except stimmed marines chasing them/even being microed to move and attack were going to kill the infestors no matter what anyways, regardless of where I casted the terrans? It's like you said.. does gretorp not know that stimmed marines outrun infestors?
Yet another example would be when my 3rd had just finished, and the larvae had just built up to 3, gretorp points out that mistake in some annoying fashion whose wording I don't remember. But he doesn't just stop there, no that's not enough. He has to use that instance of not-spending 2 larva before it goes up to 3, (which really was a fairly major factor in BW at all points in the game for zerg to try to avoid, but in SC2 after a certain point, keeping a hatchery's larva below 3 becomes fairly insignificant compared to larva injects/how well you're doing them. which btw up to 9 minutes it was perfect, each queen's energy was below 25 when the spawn larva popped off the hatch. at 12 min my queens have a whopping 30 energy and 34 energy as the spawns pop, OMG TERRIBLE MACRO), as his gateway to go into a relatively long rant about how terrible I am and how my macro's falling apart.
That was just the tip of the iceberg though. They berated me almost nonstop.. if I had the vod I could give more examples. I always hate it when casters bash players for nonsensical reasons or blowing relatively insignificant mistakes/imperfections way out of proportion.. but this was too much. And I only tuned in for the last 80% of the final game, I don't even know what they said about me before then. I don't know who that other caster was, but gretorp man I am disappointed.
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Wait a second... LiveZerg beat Stephano?
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On November 17 2011 12:52 Dexington wrote:
Wait a second... LiveZerg beat Stephano?
I think Stephano didn't show maybe
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On November 17 2011 12:37 Zelniq wrote:
so not only was the casting extremely unfair, probably one of the most unfairly harsh casts I've ever heard.. now I've random hate that's just flat out not true. I just went over the replay, not a single time did that happen. Iin fact the only infestor that ever got killed with fungal energy was right before the end, when i was reacting to a drop and he sniped one infestor at that time.
I'll admit I made some bad decisions that game.. but the major ones weren't even mentioned by either of the casters because they were too busy criticizing me for things that didn't even make sense, overly berating me for things that were relatively insignificant, because their knowledge/understanding is lacking. Like for example they went on a huge tirade about how stupid and terrible I am for getting +2 air attack, when I suddenly stopped muta production and switched to infestors. Is it really so hard to understand that I started that +2 attack before I noticed he was only going marine? My mutas saw a forward factory w/ tech lab, and most every terran gets tanks..once I noticed that he wasnt getting tanks, that's when I started going pure ling/bane/infestor. They've no excuses, they both piled on me yet could clearly see how far along the upgrade was.
That was just the tip of the iceberg though. They bashed and berated me so hard, if I had the vod I could give more examples. I always hate it when casters bash players for nonsensical reasons or blowing relatively insignificant mistakes/imperfections way out of proportion.. but this really took the cake. And I only tuned in for the last 80% of the final game, I wonder how much more I missed before then. I don't know who that other caster was, but gretorp man I am disappointed.
I missed that. Sorry that you got worked over so hard though.
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Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP?
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United States15275 Posts
Juan got it rough, having to face Thorzain in the Ro16.
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On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP?
We're not broadcasting every match. Certain matches were picked to be cast within each round.
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On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP?
We only cast a few games from the ro32 + ro16 . We're going to release all the replays after the tournament so everyone can see all the games that were played.
Stephano vs LiveZerg and KiLLeR vs Drewbie were W.O's
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ThorZain is a class act, I really hope he qualifies for the finals.
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On November 17 2011 13:10 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP? We only cast a few games from the ro32 + ro16 . We're going to release all the replays after the tournament so everyone can see all the games that were played. Stephano vs LiveZerg and KiLLeR vs Drewbie were W.O's
Wow. Didn't expect Stephano and drewbie to just pass up a chance at $40k like that.
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United States15275 Posts
I remember Killer getting pissed off when he lost to Violet in Playhem too. XD
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On November 17 2011 13:26 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 13:10 Xeris wrote:On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP? We only cast a few games from the ro32 + ro16 . We're going to release all the replays after the tournament so everyone can see all the games that were played. Stephano vs LiveZerg and KiLLeR vs Drewbie were W.O's Wow. Didn't expect Stephano and drewbie to just pass up a chance at $40k like that.
There's a loser bracket We will be seeing both play game(s) there
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On November 17 2011 13:10 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP? We only cast a few games from the ro32 + ro16 . We're going to release all the replays after the tournament so everyone can see all the games that were played. Stephano vs LiveZerg and KiLLeR vs Drewbie were W.O's
What was the reason for Stephano not showing up? unless ofcourse those matches was played last weekend where Stephano was in battle of berlin?
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On November 17 2011 13:48 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 13:10 Xeris wrote:On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP? We only cast a few games from the ro32 + ro16 . We're going to release all the replays after the tournament so everyone can see all the games that were played. Stephano vs LiveZerg and KiLLeR vs Drewbie were W.O's What was the reason for Stephano not showing up? unless ofcourse those matches was played last weekend where Stephano was in battle of berlin?
He was at a LAN event I think and couldn't come, although we weren't informed until afterwards. Generally we were relatively accommodating to LAN's and other stuff and always gave people 1 chance to postpone... but when we don't hear anything from the player, we can't do it.
Just a communication issue~
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On November 17 2011 13:38 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 13:26 red4ce wrote:On November 17 2011 13:10 Xeris wrote:On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP? We only cast a few games from the ro32 + ro16 . We're going to release all the replays after the tournament so everyone can see all the games that were played. Stephano vs LiveZerg and KiLLeR vs Drewbie were W.O's Wow. Didn't expect Stephano and drewbie to just pass up a chance at $40k like that. There's a loser bracket We will be seeing both play game(s) there
you could also say that stephano will win every match in the losers bracket :D
at least i hope so :/
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On November 17 2011 14:04 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 13:48 HappyChris wrote:On November 17 2011 13:10 Xeris wrote:On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP? We only cast a few games from the ro32 + ro16 . We're going to release all the replays after the tournament so everyone can see all the games that were played. Stephano vs LiveZerg and KiLLeR vs Drewbie were W.O's What was the reason for Stephano not showing up? unless ofcourse those matches was played last weekend where Stephano was in battle of berlin? He was at a LAN event I think and couldn't come, although we weren't informed until afterwards. Generally we were relatively accommodating to LAN's and other stuff and always gave people 1 chance to postpone... but when we don't hear anything from the player, we can't do it. Just a communication issue~
ahh yea and he missed his flight also back to france when he attended Battle of Berlin well that sucks for him owell thx god we got losers bracket.
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On November 17 2011 14:08 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 14:04 Xeris wrote:On November 17 2011 13:48 HappyChris wrote:On November 17 2011 13:10 Xeris wrote:On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP? We only cast a few games from the ro32 + ro16 . We're going to release all the replays after the tournament so everyone can see all the games that were played. Stephano vs LiveZerg and KiLLeR vs Drewbie were W.O's What was the reason for Stephano not showing up? unless ofcourse those matches was played last weekend where Stephano was in battle of berlin? He was at a LAN event I think and couldn't come, although we weren't informed until afterwards. Generally we were relatively accommodating to LAN's and other stuff and always gave people 1 chance to postpone... but when we don't hear anything from the player, we can't do it. Just a communication issue~ ahh yea and he missed his flight also back to france when he attended Battle of Berlin well that sucks for him owell thx god we got losers bracket.
i think we talk about eswc here... the games are played weeks ago.
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On November 17 2011 12:37 Zelniq wrote:
so not only was the casting extremely unfair, probably one of the most unfairly harsh casts I've ever heard.. now I've random hate that's just flat out not true. I just went over the replay, not a single time did that happen. In fact the only infestor that ever got killed with fungal energy was right before the end, when i was reacting to a drop and he sniped one infestor at that time.
I'll admit I made some bad decisions that game.. but the major ones weren't even mentioned by either of the casters because they were too busy criticizing me for things that didn't even make sense, overly berating me for things that were relatively insignificant, because their knowledge/understanding is lacking.
Like for example they went on a huge tirade about how stupid and terrible I am for getting +2 air attack, when I had suddenly stopped muta production and switched to infestors. Is it really so hard to understand that I started that +2 attack before I noticed he was only going marine? My mutas saw a forward factory w/ tech lab, and most every terran gets tanks. But once I noticed that he wasnt getting tanks, that's when I started going pure ling/bane/infestor. They've no excuses, they both piled on me yet could clearly see how far along the upgrade was. Another example was shortly before the end, after a battle went in my opponent's favor, and all I had left over were a few infestors all with < 75 energy off creep, there were stimmed marines were chasing them down and there was no way for them to escape. So when the infestors spammed their remaining energy on infested terrans before dying, gretorp points out how dumb I am for casting the infested terrans in a spot that blocked the infestors from retreating.............except stimmed marines chasing them/even being microed to move and attack were going to kill the infestors no matter what anyways, regardless of where I casted the terrans? It's like you said.. does gretorp not know that stimmed marines outrun infestors?
Yet another example would be when my 3rd had just finished, and the larvae had just built up to 3, gretorp points out that mistake in some annoying fashion whose wording I don't remember. But he doesn't just stop there, no that's not enough. He has to use that instance of not-spending 2 larva before it goes up to 3, (which really was a fairly major factor in BW at all points in the game for zerg to try to avoid, but in SC2 after a certain point, keeping a hatchery's larva below 3 becomes fairly insignificant compared to larva injects/how well you're doing them. which btw up to 9 minutes it was perfect, each queen's energy was below 25 when the spawn larva popped off the hatch. at 12 min my queens have a whopping 30 energy and 34 energy as the spawns pop, OMG TERRIBLE MACRO), as his gateway to go into a relatively long rant about how terrible I am and how my macro's falling apart.
That was just the tip of the iceberg though. They berated me almost nonstop.. if I had the vod I could give more examples. I always hate it when casters bash players for nonsensical reasons or blowing relatively insignificant mistakes/imperfections way out of proportion.. but this was too much. And I only tuned in for the last 80% of the final game, I don't even know what they said about me before then. I don't know who that other caster was, but gretorp man I am disappointed.
that's gretorp for you...that's why i stopped watching NASL and just wait for the results to post. On related note, someone need to update the bracket with results...
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On November 17 2011 14:40 ninjamyst wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 12:37 Zelniq wrote:
so not only was the casting extremely unfair, probably one of the most unfairly harsh casts I've ever heard.. now I've random hate that's just flat out not true. I just went over the replay, not a single time did that happen. In fact the only infestor that ever got killed with fungal energy was right before the end, when i was reacting to a drop and he sniped one infestor at that time.
I'll admit I made some bad decisions that game.. but the major ones weren't even mentioned by either of the casters because they were too busy criticizing me for things that didn't even make sense, overly berating me for things that were relatively insignificant, because their knowledge/understanding is lacking.
Like for example they went on a huge tirade about how stupid and terrible I am for getting +2 air attack, when I had suddenly stopped muta production and switched to infestors. Is it really so hard to understand that I started that +2 attack before I noticed he was only going marine? My mutas saw a forward factory w/ tech lab, and most every terran gets tanks. But once I noticed that he wasnt getting tanks, that's when I started going pure ling/bane/infestor. They've no excuses, they both piled on me yet could clearly see how far along the upgrade was. Another example was shortly before the end, after a battle went in my opponent's favor, and all I had left over were a few infestors all with < 75 energy off creep, there were stimmed marines were chasing them down and there was no way for them to escape. So when the infestors spammed their remaining energy on infested terrans before dying, gretorp points out how dumb I am for casting the infested terrans in a spot that blocked the infestors from retreating.............except stimmed marines chasing them/even being microed to move and attack were going to kill the infestors no matter what anyways, regardless of where I casted the terrans? It's like you said.. does gretorp not know that stimmed marines outrun infestors?
Yet another example would be when my 3rd had just finished, and the larvae had just built up to 3, gretorp points out that mistake in some annoying fashion whose wording I don't remember. But he doesn't just stop there, no that's not enough. He has to use that instance of not-spending 2 larva before it goes up to 3, (which really was a fairly major factor in BW at all points in the game for zerg to try to avoid, but in SC2 after a certain point, keeping a hatchery's larva below 3 becomes fairly insignificant compared to larva injects/how well you're doing them. which btw up to 9 minutes it was perfect, each queen's energy was below 25 when the spawn larva popped off the hatch. at 12 min my queens have a whopping 30 energy and 34 energy as the spawns pop, OMG TERRIBLE MACRO), as his gateway to go into a relatively long rant about how terrible I am and how my macro's falling apart.
That was just the tip of the iceberg though. They berated me almost nonstop.. if I had the vod I could give more examples. I always hate it when casters bash players for nonsensical reasons or blowing relatively insignificant mistakes/imperfections way out of proportion.. but this was too much. And I only tuned in for the last 80% of the final game, I don't even know what they said about me before then. I don't know who that other caster was, but gretorp man I am disappointed. that's gretorp for you...that's why i stopped watching NASL and just wait for the results to post. On related note, someone need to update the bracket with results...
After EU rebroadcast I will
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On November 17 2011 13:26 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 13:10 Xeris wrote:On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP? We only cast a few games from the ro32 + ro16 . We're going to release all the replays after the tournament so everyone can see all the games that were played. Stephano vs LiveZerg and KiLLeR vs Drewbie were W.O's Wow. Didn't expect Stephano and drewbie to just pass up a chance at $40k like that.
Even if Stephano win the whole even't he can't go to the NASL live final cause he is in Korea at that time cause of the Blizzard Cup from Gom TV
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It doesn't seem that Major could profit a lot from his korean practice. he didn't do that well at Blizzcon and now he lost again.
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On November 17 2011 16:53 Sandermatt wrote:
It doesn't seem that Major could profit a lot from his korean practice. he didn't do that well at Blizzcon and now he lost again.
Thorzain is just that more baller.
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LiveZerg slaying all the nerds
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On November 17 2011 16:53 Sandermatt wrote:
It doesn't seem that Major could profit a lot from his korean practice. he didn't do that well at Blizzcon and now he lost again.
I think the benefit of a month or so in Korea is marginal. You'd need a long term compitement for it to really start showing, it's not magic.
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ThorZaiN just far too good for MajOr, well played.
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On November 17 2011 16:53 Sandermatt wrote:
It doesn't seem that Major could profit a lot from his korean practice. he didn't do that well at Blizzcon and now he lost again.
To be fair, Thorzain has spent time in Korea too, and he was probably a better player to start with. At Blizzcon Major lost to Naniwa originally, and the same applies there really. He's a really good player, with great potential. I'm pleased for Thorzain though, nice to see him demonstrate his skills.
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Good choice of games I must say, a bit of awesome, a bit of unknowns
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tl coverage on tourney is better than one u find on nasl.tv
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anyone know what map the first game between Killer and LiveZerg was played on? the one with the four(?) mineral patches that have to be mined to get access to the expansion, it seemed cool.
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On November 17 2011 20:55 karlmengsk wrote:
anyone know what map the first game between Killer and LiveZerg was played on? the one with the four(?) mineral patches that have to be mined to get access to the expansion, it seemed cool.
Good question. I like seeing new, community made, maps getting into the scene lately. The IPL mapmaking tournament from the last couple days has been pretty interesting.
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On November 17 2011 20:07 samurai80 wrote:Wasn't the RO16 of winner bracket supposed to be finished yesterday ? NASL2 Open Tournament ScheduleAnyone for the results ?
I will update the bracket after the EU rebroadcast
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Isnt the EU broadcast suposed to start now?
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On November 18 2011 02:18 Deckkie wrote:
Isnt the EU broadcast suposed to start now?
It's started. TL calendar was entered incorrectly.
But yes, join us on Twitch or on our site. We are live.
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On November 18 2011 02:57 IronManSC wrote:
Where is the vod??
VODs always go up after the EU broadcast
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Just lost some respect for KawaiiRice... what he says doesn't make much sense imo, Artifice and Overgrown aren't even as big as Terminus, Tal'Darim or Calm Before the Storm,...
Also what Zelniq said is so true lol, quite funny how that game was casted by Gretorp..
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Thorzain is a pretty sick foreigner, you can practice all you want in Korea, but hes pretty much the best terran foreigner.
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I have never heard of any of these maps
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On November 18 2011 04:39 Killmouse wrote:
who is "hwang"?
it's major, who's first name is "juan" which apparently gretorp cannot pronounce correctly.
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and NASL casting has gone down in qualitiy since InControl left. Seriously, gretorp... not a good caster. "and that's a HUGE HUGE HUGE mistake." all he does is talk about what they did wrong, blowing it way out of proportion every time.
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i watch nasl just to hear gretorps inane ramblings. he says some priceless things!
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It's funny, because I seem to recall Gretorp used to talk about how hugely amazingly good every move was ("he's making a supply depot to make a walloff at his ramp, and that's HUGE" sort of thing). Now it seems to be the opposite, and everything is bad.
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This tourney just seems to have no life to it.
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On November 18 2011 01:57 Xeris wrote:I will update the bracket after the EU rebroadcast
Sooo... where is the bracket update now?
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On November 18 2011 04:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Thorzain is a pretty sick foreigner, you can practice all you want in Korea, but hes pretty much the best terran foreigner.
Id say his tvp and tvt is probably the strongest of any foreigner atm, his pvz is lacking alot tho which is why he never gets real far in most tournaments.
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On November 18 2011 06:17 Dreamer.T wrote:
This tourney just seems to have no life to it.
I clicked this thread by accident and decided to read through it after I saw some post on the bottom of Page 1 about KR bashing a map (which I thought meant Korea). Come to find out it was only KawaiiRice, but then I got to see some Zelniq drama! And some games were played too? Oh... Honestly, couldn't have told you if NASL Season 2 was even still running.
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On November 18 2011 06:17 Dreamer.T wrote:
This tourney just seems to have no life to it.
It's the NASL style to be honest.
There's just no hype for tuning in to watch VoDs.
Season 3 they need to hire a new main caster, and keep Gretorp around for what they have Wombat(Who I personally don't enjoy his casting)/Orb (Who's casting I love)/etc. doing. Then they need to play some live matches.
NASL Season 2 is basically live-watching VoDs....it's literally anti-hype
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I've updated the bracket to reflect the games played If we didn't broadcast a game you wanted to see-- we'll release all the replays after the tournament is over
http://binarybeast.com/xSC21111109/spoiler to check it out.
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On November 18 2011 05:03 BluePanther wrote:
and NASL casting has gone down in qualitiy since InControl left. Seriously, gretorp... not a good caster. "and that's a HUGE HUGE HUGE mistake." all he does is talk about what they did wrong, blowing it way out of proportion every time.
That's pretty much what every caster does and it's the most annoying thing about watching SC2 pro games. The guy on the Korean Weekly tourney does the same thing, always saying what these Korean pros should have done. The worst part is that the way he talks, it seems like he honestly thinks that he knows better than all of these high level Korean pros when they would destroy him in under 5 minutes. You don't see Dick Vitale (or any sportscaster) harping on every turnover or minor mistake that a team makes just so he can build up his own ego. This is something SC2 casters really need to be aware of and to just stop it.
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On November 18 2011 07:10 Devolved wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 05:03 BluePanther wrote:
and NASL casting has gone down in qualitiy since InControl left. Seriously, gretorp... not a good caster. "and that's a HUGE HUGE HUGE mistake." all he does is talk about what they did wrong, blowing it way out of proportion every time. That's pretty much what every caster does and it's the most annoying thing about watching SC2 pro games. The guy on the Korean Weekly tourney does the same thing, always saying what these Korean pros should have done. The worst part is that the way he talks, it seems like he honestly thinks that he knows better than all of these high level Korean pros when they would destroy him in under 5 minutes. You don't see Dick Vitale (or any sportscaster) harping on every turnover or minor mistake that a team makes just so he can build up his own ego. This is something SC2 casters really need to be aware of and to just stop it.
Orb says what he says because he actually does know an insane amount about the game, and he's actually pretty good at the game. On top of that, I see it all the time in sportscasters, that's why we see replays of turnovers and fumbles like 4 times in a row, and then more later on. The fact of the matter is casters are allowed to point out mistakes because ITS THEIR JOB. I'd rather watch Orb describe what the IDEAL response in that scenario would have been, instead of hearing "OMG FANTASTIC EMPS!" or "GREAT FORCEFIELDS" every time someone uses said spell. You don't have to be able to play at top tier professional levels to KNOW the game at a top tier professional level. Casters are able to make statements like that because they can see what the players cant, namely both players supply counts, production tabs, etc.
I prefer the analytic casts to listening to Tasteless talk about pirate birds while a player is losing an expansion.
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On November 17 2011 20:55 karlmengsk wrote:
anyone know what map the first game between Killer and LiveZerg was played on? the one with the four(?) mineral patches that have to be mined to get access to the expansion, it seemed cool.
The map is called "TPW Damage Inc" by Mereel (from The Planetary Workshop).
TPW Damage Inc - map thread
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Does the "W" by livezerg over Stephano mean walkover or win? Just curious if he beat him or Stephano didn't show
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On November 18 2011 07:43 mrtomjones wrote:
Does the "W" by livezerg over Stephano mean walkover or win? Just curious if he beat him or Stephano didn't show
It was a walk-over. We weren't informed until the LiveZerg/dKilleR matches were being played, but it was a walkover. Stephano/Drewbie are squaring off in the Losers Bracket in today's broadcast.
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