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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word. TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players. - p4NDemik | ||
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S2Lunar
1051 Posts
Give me a fucking joke, your 'god' got beaten. | ||
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Larias
United States75 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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-y0shi-
Germany994 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:09 dan1mal wrote: its pathetic that everyone is complaining about the game being set etc. Why the fuck would nestea throw the game? And is it really that wierd for even a pro to leave a couple of units in some overlords after playing for like 10 hours? and how the fuck are you going to deal with 20 full mana ghosts, siege tanks, and whole bunch of marines? MVP's army size was 50 food larger because he had mules.. and having 27 broodlords = 108 supply.. Ofcourse hes not gonna have 40 roaches supporting it, because thats mathematically impossible... People honestly always seem to want to find the evil in everything, why cant everyone just shut up and enjoy a good game? Because it wasnt a good game, it was an awful game? A game isnt good because it has lots of units. This game was bad and people trying to figure out how this can happen. Because both players but especially nestea are just better then this. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:12 SpiZe wrote: I'm sure if I understand correctly... Nestea got booed ? No david kim did. he was accompanying nestea. | ||
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aBADidea
Canada3 Posts
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Xadar
497 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:09 Ilintar wrote: Okay, I seriously don't see how people are claiming this game was a) bad, b) fixed. You have a game where the top pros are basically executing a dance of strategies and counters for 40 minutes and you claim the game was rigged because one of them came up on top? To address the most common points: 1) Why didn't Nestea just make spines everywhere? He did, MVP just picked them out one by one. You're so focused on Nestea "donating" Brood Lords, you're seemingly forgetting about the dozen or so drops MVP threw away before he actually started chipping into the zerg empire. 2) Why did Nestea just attack with mass Brood Lords? He was probably actually counting on overpowering the ghost army - if he managed to kill those, he could basically demolish MVP's entire ground defense since remaking the ghosts would take such a huge amount of time. It might've worked, too, if not for the 15 or so vikings. There are only so many snipes the ghosts have energy for. 3) Why the doomdrop? A lot of people are contradicting themselves here. First you say Nestea was stupid for not trading armies, then you criticize the doomdrop - for Nestea, this was probably the perceived most cost-efficient way of trading armies. He probably didn't take into consideration how quickly his overlords would get sniped. 4) Why not just make a ton of lings and throw them at the ghosts? Because MVP had sensor towers and the ghosts were behind a nice line of PFs and siege tanks. Reportedly, mass lings don't do too well vs. either. 5) Why not just wait, bank minerals, save larvas and prepare for the terran attack? That's exactly what Nestea tried to do. For quite a long time, he succeeded - he repelled all the drops and managed to defend the bottom expo. The problem is, once he let some drops do damage, his entire defense began to unravel due to the multitasking demands. But you cant explain why he didnt rebuild his bases after losing them to drops despite having more than enough minerals banked. | ||
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Zane
Romania3916 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:14 Medrea wrote: No david kim did. he was accompanying nestea. Why did they boo DK? | ||
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tkRage
225 Posts
lol only a romanian would ask that question. User was warned for this post | ||
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:12 Krehlmar wrote: He most definatly was not playing his normal NesTea level of gameplay and I think anyone with any basic knowledge of Starcraft II can admit that: A 3 time GSL champion does not build 27 broodlords and attack the most heavily fortified terran position on the whole map without any support, whilst not flanking nor (re)taking any expansions. Goodnight folks. it was a smart decision but poorly executed. it's very easy to be the monday morning quarterback but in retrospect you have to consider that nestea had several infestors that with one fungal on the ghosts potentially ends the game. | ||
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Gorguts
Canada254 Posts
Balance whiners. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
Because the SC2 community is filled with hatred. | ||
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PaeZ
Mexico1627 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:15 tkRage wrote: lol only a romanian would ask that question. I would also like to know why, no need to be mean | ||
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Dalavita
Sweden1113 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:02 Micket wrote: Because Zerg Lair tech cannot touch maxed marine tank. Adding ghosts into the mix only makes it harder for ling bling because ghosts are fearsome fighting units. When Zerg loses for going lair tech all game, people say 'lol needed infestor brood lord. When Zerg techs to Hive and Terran reacts, people go 'make lingoes nooooooob). There's more to the game than getting the right unit composition out. Also, there is such a thing as transitioning from hive tech back to hatchery tech units depending on the situation. There is no such thing as a tier progression battle in this game. You build what unit you need and most units are useful. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:15 Xadar wrote: But you cant explain why he didnt rebuild his bases after losing them to drops despite having more than enough minerals banked. it might have something to do with having 14k minerals banked and being nuked in three seperate locations at once? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 23 2011 09:47 Angra wrote: lol? and immortals counter mutas see i can make up shit too Okay let's say you have 8 ghosts, send 50 lings to get them. Ghosts snipe the overseers and then the ghosts 2-shot lings while being cloaked. Really, how do lings even counter them? | ||
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tns
1054 Posts
But I think it wasn't a given game on purpose... when his greater spire was done... He had enough BL but went for the production facilities... and that was game... he killed a CC, few buildings... not much... the ghosts saved the base but MVP lost almost nothing of his army That was the wrong decision... that was supposed to be the fight with these BL... where was the fight? For every Zerg and NesTea fans... yes that last game was so poor... these tanks at the center map were there forever... there wasn't even a PF when he morphed the BL Then he tried Nydus, switched to Ultra and did a doom drop to kill supply depots and a rax or two... same thing he almost killed nothing of the army... why sacrificing his army for few buildings when army are never trade... Maybe NesTea was pissed off himself when he knew he would not win vs a max terran who never lost his center position (his tanks in other words...) that game was poor... because we expected so much from the god of zerg... T^T NesTea might want to wait till HotS before beeing bonjwa because wol if for terrans (ha ha...) | ||
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Warfie
Norway2846 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:16 PaeZ wrote: I would also like to know why, no need to be mean Because David Kim is in charge of balancing, and a lot of people are unhappy with the current situation. Totally not the right way to vent such frustration though, really. | ||
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:15 tkRage wrote: lol only a romanian would ask that question. .... really now bro? | ||
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tranmillitary
210 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:15 Xadar wrote: But you cant explain why he didnt rebuild his bases after losing them to drops despite having more than enough minerals banked. He did, are u dumb?? watch the game again. MVP kept dropping constantly at the bottom expos. What was NEstea supposed to do against that defense?? keep sending non stop units to die then die??? | ||
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