EPTOn October 23 2011 10:03 unsaintly wrote:
That's NesTea..
e: ok you saw it yourself :D
That's NesTea..
e: ok you saw it yourself :D
Big typo, thanks tho!
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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word. TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players. - p4NDemik | ||
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PrimeTimey
Canada369 Posts
Big typo, thanks tho! | ||
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hitpoint
United States1511 Posts
On October 23 2011 09:59 Terranist wrote: well the archon also supposedly owns mutalisks too. Ultras counter marauders too apparently. | ||
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luckybeni2
Germany1065 Posts
On October 23 2011 09:54 j0ker wrote: anyone whining about ghosts is conveniently ignoring nestea 1) staying on 90+ drones for too long 2) nestea failing to inject late game and keep up the production to remax with his 11k/6k bank 3) nestea utterly botching his doom drop 4) nestea REPEATEDLY failing to multitask enough to pull drones away from nukes 5) nestea wasting 15 spines in the center while his tech and production got ravaged by tiny drops and most of all 6) nestea making 25 broodlords against a primarily ghost viking army and not supporting them with ANYTHING when he engaged. nestea completely botched that game and mvps control and multitasking was simply better throughout. theres no point in going to 90+ drones and quickly maxing if you are going to let the terran split the map without a fight. I think noone really disagrees that nestea should have lost that game the way he played. But that does not take away from the fact that ghosts are too good of a unit. The cloaking ability combined with snipe and emp makes them a too usefull unit. They are like Ghosts frombw combined with science vessels and a sniping ability. Let the emp go in the raven and make it a projectile and everything would be fine. | ||
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LetoAtreides82
United States1188 Posts
No they don't, do you even play the game? Ghost are so much more expensive and they shoot slower than marines. The only terran ground unit that's worse against lings than ghosts are Thors without support. | ||
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PaeZ
Mexico1627 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:04 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: his profile says : Joined TL.net, Sunday, 6th of March 2011 Now that explains everything, thanks for lighting that up. | ||
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
Heart of the Swarm and Legacy of the Void should be renamed to Aliens United. There, zerg and protoss units will all merge and become the ultimate allies to defeat the good and powerful terran. All units will then have regen + shields. perfect. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:02 Micket wrote: Because Zerg Lair tech cannot touch maxed marine tank. Adding ghosts into the mix only makes it harder for ling bling because ghosts are fearsome fighting units. When Zerg loses for going lair tech all game, people say 'lol needed infestor brood lord. When Zerg techs to Hive and Terran reacts, people go 'make lingoes nooooooob). What people should see is that a 200/200 heavy gas beating Z at 200/200 any setup can be balanced. A 200/200 Mech T vs 200/200 Z in BW Terran would destroy Z. In SC2 you need to control T army size and gas income. | ||
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hysterial
United States2044 Posts
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xCenasfu
Finland143 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:03 Pr0wler wrote: Are you guys serious ? Nestea made 27 broodlords without support vs ghost and vikings... and you found imbalance here ? 17 ghosts are SUPPOSE to kill 27 broodlords... Just like banelings kill marines. With 10k in the bank Nestea could easily remax 2 times with ling/baneling and simply kill anything. Terran can't reproduce that fast. bs.. Ghosts are supposed to be strong against: * High Templar * Raven * Infestor Theyre not supposed to be killing t3 units with impunity User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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dynabetes
United States36 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:01 RudePlague wrote: MVP admits Terran is OP. Nestea knows Terran is OP. They got together and rigged that last game to prove to Blizzard how OP it is so that they'll do something about it. Obviously. User was temp banned for this post. that User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Butterednuts
United States859 Posts
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JJH777
United States4415 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:03 Pr0wler wrote: Are you guys serious ? Nestea made 27 broodlords without support vs ghost and vikings... and you found imbalance here ? 17 ghosts are SUPPOSE to kill 27 broodlords... Just like banelings kill marines. With 10k in the bank Nestea could easily remax 2 times with ling/baneling and simply kill everything. Terran can't reproduce that fast. You would be right except larva. To remax 2 times with ling/bling you would need over 300 larva... | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:01 Goibon wrote: Awesome, thanks, i'll look into it. Did Idra use Ling/Bling or what? Mass Mutas. MASS MUTAS He did transition to rier 3 but the game was almost over by then | ||
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Stanlot
United States5742 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:05 ThePlayer33 wrote: if you play protoss and are afraid of ghost, here you see the same way zerg die to them. Heart of the Swarm and Legacy of the Void should be renamed to Aliens United. There, zerg and protoss units will all merge and become the ultimate allies to defeat the good and powerful terran. All units will then have regen + shields. perfect. I can has hybrid? | ||
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slicknav
1409 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:06 xCenasfu wrote: bs.. Ghosts are supposed to be strong against: * High Templar * Raven * Infestor Theyre not supposed to be killing t3 units with impunity please explain why ghosts are strong against ravens? | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Didn't even get to MVTea until the next day on stream. Huge downtimes. AND THE MAPS >_< arrrghhhh Nestea vs MVP final in gsl November and MLG Providence (lawl open bracket) hopefully. | ||
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StarcraftGuy4U
United States74 Posts
Poll: Was that final match "rigged"? The fix was in (54) They both played legitimately (28) I'm not sure (7) 89 total votes Your vote: Was that final match "rigged"? (Vote): The fix was in I just want to see what the consensus is, personally I wanted Nestea to win so at first I was mad when he started losing, but after the fourth or fifth nuke, the 14k/4k in the bank, the drop where he didn't even unload all his units and then suicided the overlords... That's when I started thinking it was a showmatch. I'm not sure how many people watch tournaments besides Blizzcon (I'd hope on TLnet that most of you watch a lot of tournaments) but have you EVER seen Nestea do a lategame like that? That's not just him playing beneath his level, that's like LeBron James getting dunked on by a middleschooler because he lifted the kid up to the hoop. He saw the ghost composition and he built 100% broodlords and then a-moved them in. Also, MVP who pushed aggressively EVERY game took out alllllll those overlords and units in the drop, he's one of the best in the world, he knew where that left Nestea (supply blocked with little or no army) and does he push? No, he waits nicely for the brood lords to finish so they can have a grand finals showmatch battle in the middle of the map. That's my opinion on the subject, just way too many fishy plays by both players. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:06 xCenasfu wrote: bs.. Ghosts are supposed to be strong against: * High Templar * Raven * Infestor Theyre not supposed to be killing t3 units with impunity Archons should counter mutas and be weak vs immortals. LOGIC wins. Is it strange for Nestea to get tilted in the final game of a long series? | ||
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NNTP
Canada47 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:05 purgerinho wrote: something is strange because at one point nestea had 192/192 and then he dropped to 184/192 and back to 192/192.. he didn't make that one more overlord for around 3-5 minutes and that was something that even bronze player wouldn't do ghosts are too sick, you can't deal with them in that phase of the game.. but nestea could finished it much earlier.. something is weird in that game he should have burrowed move with infestors and fungal the cloaked ghosts and snipe them with his units. Also you can run banelings to where u see the snipes are coming from and detonate them. And finally, he had overseers that were not grouped in that attack. It was ridiculous how nestea threw away that game. He broke under pressure although he was ahead most of the game. | ||
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