Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.
TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.
On October 23 2011 09:50 cassecash wrote: It is very common for players of the same team who face each other in the finals to split the winnings, no matter who wins it (nothing wrong with that IMO). I mean come on: Both MVP and Nestea were obviously playing a shwmatch for the fans. Anyone who has seen those 2 players play in the past can't be in their right mind thinking they played their best or were particularly serious.
proof?
All over team liquid. Various pro players admitted to splitting the final pot much to the chagrin of a LOT of people.
Why is everyone so mad, exactly? I wasn't reading the LR through the final match and Reddit's exploding with talks of NesTea deliberately throwing to share prize money and other ridiculousness. NesTea didn't outright deserve to win that game anyways, it's not like Mvp winning was some massive throw. People...ugh.
On October 23 2011 09:57 Goibon wrote: Can anyone recommend me a pro level game where a Zerg has a good amount of coin banked, and attempts to break a Terran siege/ghost line using units which aren't Ultra/Brood? I don't care if they succeed or not, i just want to see if such a game exists.
Idra vs Puma IEM China semi-final on Shattered Temple
On October 23 2011 09:50 cassecash wrote: It is very common for players of the same team who face each other in the finals to split the winnings, no matter who wins it (nothing wrong with that IMO). I mean come on: Both MVP and Nestea were obviously playing a shwmatch for the fans. Anyone who has seen those 2 players play in the past can't be in their right mind thinking they played their best or were particularly serious.
proof?
There is no proof, at least in SC1/SC2.
The only time I can remember this happening was in BW in some tournament outside of Korea where Hwasin and Calm fixed their matches in the finals to have good games, and there was a huge shitstorm following that when people found out, because it was a disgrace to the scene and everybody hated both of them for a long time after that.
On October 23 2011 10:00 Paperplane wrote: Yes! Snutz lost! Most annoying kid ever, he keeps screaming and screaming.
yeah he kinda got screwed out of 1st place blizzcon last year though, remmeber how they gave CoL the check and had the finals ceremony only to make them replay 3rd game 30 mins later which they lost forcing them to play another bo5 which they lost 5th game? lol was so stupid
MVP admits Terran is OP. Nestea knows Terran is OP. They got together and rigged that last game to prove to Blizzard how OP it is so that they'll do something about it.
On October 23 2011 09:57 Goibon wrote: Can anyone recommend me a pro level game where a Zerg has a good amount of coin banked, and attempts to break a Terran siege/ghost line using units which aren't Ultra/Brood? I don't care if they succeed or not, i just want to see if such a game exists.
Puma vs Idra at IEM. Turtle Terran vs Zerg. Idra won, and yeah Puma had Ghosts
Awesome, thanks, i'll look into it. Did Idra use Ling/Bling or what?
Some odd mistakes by nestea this game, not rebuilding hatcheries, getting nuked at same spots several times and taking a horrible engagement at the end. hope hes stronger at his upcoming tournaments. solid play by mvp though, didnt make any big mistakes, just played it safely.
On October 23 2011 09:50 cassecash wrote: It is very common for players of the same team who face each other in the finals to split the winnings, no matter who wins it (nothing wrong with that IMO). I mean come on: Both MVP and Nestea were obviously playing a shwmatch for the fans. Anyone who has seen those 2 players play in the past can't be in their right mind thinking they played their best or were particularly serious.
proof?
All over team liquid. Various pro players admitted to splitting the final pot much to the chagrin of a LOT of people.
that isn't proof.
If "I am a pro player and we split pots - ReignFayth" isn't proof then, well yeah there will never be any proof ever.
On October 23 2011 09:57 Goibon wrote: Can anyone recommend me a pro level game where a Zerg has a good amount of coin banked, and attempts to break a Terran siege/ghost line using units which aren't Ultra/Brood? I don't care if they succeed or not, i just want to see if such a game exists.
Idra vs Puma IEM China semi-final on Shattered Temple
On October 23 2011 09:54 scarper65 wrote: People complain about ghosts countering tier3, but if you realize this than why continue going tier 3?
because dude tier 3 is supposed to hard counter every tier below it!!!!!11
and if not then it's imbalanced!!!!
Because Zerg Lair tech cannot touch maxed marine tank. Adding ghosts into the mix only makes it harder for ling bling because ghosts are fearsome fighting units.
When Zerg loses for going lair tech all game, people say 'lol needed infestor brood lord. When Zerg techs to Hive and Terran reacts, people go 'make lingoes nooooooob).