EPTI say bring on the showmatches more often! Who cares if they split the money, that's a good thing! spread the wealth
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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word. TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players. - p4NDemik | ||
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jayhorn
England131 Posts
I say bring on the showmatches more often! Who cares if they split the money, that's a good thing! spread the wealth User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Copymizer
Denmark2108 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On October 23 2011 09:57 Al Bundy wrote: Guys you should calm down and think rationally. Zerglings are good against ghosts, it's a fact, and it says so in the in-game help menu. Also look at the liquipedia  Ghost "weak against: zergling"The choke had a planetary and several tanks.... | ||
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Medrea
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All over team liquid. Various pro players admitted to splitting the final pot much to the chagrin of a LOT of people. | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
On October 23 2011 09:59 Terranist wrote: well the archon also supposedly owns mutalisks too. We're talking about TvZ here, not PvZ. | ||
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Joe12
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On October 23 2011 09:55 ThePlayer33 wrote: blizzard already stuffed up HotS. the game is gonna turn into a spellcaster game like those other "strategy" games out there. It will deviate from the starcraft as we know it. Because of 2 additional caster units? Ok dude. | ||
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
On October 23 2011 09:54 Terranist wrote: you mean the guy with the 92% winrate in ZvZ was afraid of sen? you don't understand, this is their job. they don't mess around with that much money on the line, and they certainly don't split the pot. they probably agreed to split the prize if they were both in the grand finals as the person who lost in the upper bracket had no guarantee that they would meet up again in the finals. | ||
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j0ker
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On October 23 2011 09:55 T3tra wrote: I'm leaning towards them splitting the money as well. I don't want to take anything away from MVP's win, but Nestea didn't seem like he was playing his best at all. I just hope MVP doesn't go into a slump after losing to MMA in GSL. This confidence boost will hopefully keep him in a good enough mind set to continue to be an amazing Terran. Congrats to IM for beating pretty much everyone. Their team manager must be insanely happy :D did you see mvps reaction when he won? no way they split. nestea has never had a super solid late game zvt, usually relying on mutas and banemines in crazy base trade scenarios. his strength is his defense timing, macro, and frankly his drone making, which ties into those other 2. nestea usually wins against good terrans by overwhelming them due to his superior economy or by winning basetrades with burrowed banes and mutas. mvp playing for a split map was a brilliant counter to this as all that extra money of nestea was limited by production and further limited by nesteas failure to maintain injects and refusal to mass macro hatches as well as terrible nuke and drop defense. | ||
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
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mikyaJ
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L0thar
987 Posts
On October 23 2011 09:47 n00b3rt wrote: F*** blizzard and Browder and Kim, for making a game where failing doomdrops, letting a terran have half the map while on 15k/5k and staying passive, doing nothing against drops, donating mutas and broodlords, attacking with broodlords without support, letting 20+ drones die to a nuke and not using mutas to their full potential in the early-mid game when terran is not well defended and is on multiple bases will not make zergs win. I'm now writing this angry post, because my hatred for the game's balance is totally objective, and is not at all related to any type of miserable online life with multiple stupid losses because of my own failures, that I blame the game balance for ... Hahaha, perfect summary of last 40 pages or so. Spot on and funny post like this are saviors of LR threads in these dark times. Funny thing that somebody had the need to report you for that. Well, If the caps fits... | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On October 23 2011 09:57 Goibon wrote: Can anyone recommend me a pro level game where a Zerg has a good amount of coin banked, and attempts to break a Terran siege/ghost line using units which aren't Ultra/Brood? I don't care if they succeed or not, i just want to see if such a game exists. Puma vs Idra at IEM. Turtle Terran vs Zerg. Idra won, and yeah Puma had Ghosts | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On October 23 2011 09:49 La1 wrote: i wonder if nestea had his sound muted or somthing, he never reacted to nukes.. great game to watch, i felt nestea threw it away at the end and played awful... crowd was awsome but left when they had to wait 10 min for prize ceremony Looking at http://us.battle.net/blizzcon/en/event-info/schedule/saturday-schedule and assuming that chairs can be as tough to get as at any other event, I'm guessing there was a mass "oh crap, we have to get there for closing ceremonies before there's no place to be that we can actually see anything!" vibe going in the crowd. Unlike, say, MLG, where the only thing to do at the end of the tournament is hang out, there is the last major event of the weekend going on immediately after the game... where I think Foo Fighters may be a main attraction. Is Dave Grohl > MVP? I want an exhibition match. | ||
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Rayansaki
Portugal1266 Posts
Except for that 1 tier 2.5 unit zerg has that counters everything else. | ||
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ladyumbra
Canada1699 Posts
On October 23 2011 09:45 Micket wrote: Can someone describe to me a max army that could touch MVP's army? I don't care how Nestea blundered in terms of defending expos, his bank was large enough for 4 remaxes. MVP's turtle on side expos was impenetrable, turrets, sensor towers everywhere. As blunderous Nestea's failed drops looked, he was faced without the problem of defeating the cloaked ghost army. Once MVP reached an economy of similar prowess as Nestea, he could start throwing drops everywhere just like a Zerg could throw zerglings away, and Nestea couldn't deal with it. I blame Shakuras Plateau (which was the best Zerg map in the pool WTF) Nestea had a huge bank about midway through the game and needed to sac some workers for a better overall army count, even if he lost most of that army he still had a forest of spines to protect his retreat path. Also Neatea while brilliant and a fav player of mine seems to have really poor late game compositions and a tendency to make infestors and barely use them except to defend drops. He needed more infestors to fungal the ghosts especially once all the medivacs were gone. Overseers + 8 infestors and broods could have worked even with the vikings there. Once the ghosts were gone he could have emptied his bank on ultras or just a million roaches or something and mvp is forced to land his vikings to defend, loses them and then bam broods are viable again. That is all just theory crafting of course it's impossible to know if it would have worked or not but that's my best guess as to how it might have been possible. MVP deserved that last game though, he had excellent base defense, made good use of drops especially once Nestea stopped making mutas and generally kept the player who wants to trade armies from ever actually you know going to trade them. The game could have gone either way at many points throughout but in the end MVP wore Neatea down until he made a fatal blunder. | ||
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Shaxe
Netherlands590 Posts
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VoirDire
Sweden1923 Posts
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On October 23 2011 09:56 jmbthirteen wrote: yeah he did nothing with all of those banelings. that doom drop just was terrible I would've been really interested to see the bling drop ontop of the ghosts. He really didn't need to be anywhere close to efficient, he just needed to kill a bit of mvps army so he could bruteforce the rest. | ||
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Warfie
Norway2848 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:00 Paperplane wrote: Yes! Snutz lost! Most annoying kid ever, he keeps screaming and screaming. Couldn't agree more! The attitude of team Skill Capped is really bad. Happy for the koreans. | ||
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Pajegetc
United States3158 Posts
On October 23 2011 09:54 scarper65 wrote: People complain about ghosts countering tier3, but if you realize this than why continue going tier 3? Because zerg are used to complaining then getting their way instead of adapting their play. i.e make more marco hatchies and then make a shitton of lings/baneling against MVP nearly tankless army. But hey, 15k/5k looks good in the bank. | ||
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