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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.
TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.
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On October 23 2011 09:49 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Yeah guys, they fixed the pot and decided that nestea would lose on purpose. Are you guys fucking dumb? Why the hell would nestea need to lose in a situation like that? If they were going to split the pot then who the fuck cares who wins. This argument is embarrassing for the entire site and community.
So they can show entertaining games...
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On October 23 2011 09:52 xCenasfu wrote:
I wonder what the BW pros thought of that final..
I honestly hope they weren't watching.
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I never watched Nestea play, but if the best zerg in the world throws 27 bls to waste, I'm in for gsl code S, seriously what was that :/
gg MVP, totally outplayed him and Nestea looked so bad
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On October 23 2011 09:54 j0ker wrote:
anyone whining about ghosts is conveniently ignoring nestea 1) staying on 90+ drones for too long 2) nestea failing to inject late game and keep up the production to remax with his 11k/6k bank 3) nestea utterly botching his doom drop 4) nestea REPEATEDLY failing to multitask enough to pull drones away from nukes 5) nestea wasting 15 spines in the center while his tech and production got ravaged by tiny drops and most of all 6) nestea making 25 broodlords against a primarily ghost viking army and not supporting them with ANYTHING when he engaged. nestea completely botched that game and mvps control and multitasking was simply better throughout. theres no point in going to 90+ drones and quickly maxing if you are going to let the terran split the map without a fight.
Agreed.
Nestea had a giant lead that he just didn't utilize. Those last broodlords were just a mistake.
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they got a hell a lot of work to do to make a good sc2 toruny
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Let's assume he was trying to show something, ghost ehhmmm ehmmm what?
Keep in mind, after the final game nestea didn't look disapointed at all.
Ok I get out
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On October 23 2011 09:54 Woizit wrote:
When you have over 100 banelings against a Terran that has 50 SCVs and over 10 Vikings for non-existent Broodlords, I don't care how OP Terran is, they can't have enough supply to counter-push efficiently before the ling remax.
yeah he did nothing with all of those banelings. that doom drop just was terrible
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On October 23 2011 09:54 scarper65 wrote:
People complain about ghosts countering tier3, but if you realize this than why continue going tier 3?
Because marines counter our tier 1 & 2?
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On October 23 2011 09:54 scarper65 wrote:
People complain about ghosts countering tier3, but if you realize this than why continue going tier 3?
because dude tier 3 is supposed to hard counter every tier below it!!!!!11
and if not then it's imbalanced!!!!
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dear god, IM walked away with 75k today.
i don't think MVP begrudges losing code s right now 
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All I see is nestea/zerg fans crying. These are the 2 best players in the world. Nestea couldn't attack because of MVP's Defense. He then dropped main, then later tried mvp's bottom expansion. You guys are dumb if you guys think nestea played bad. No one here could last 5 mins with MVP.
That was one of the best final games ever. People complain about cheese, people complain about macro games, people complain about everything here. Bunch of kids.
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On October 23 2011 09:47 Mortal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 09:46 Thurken wrote:On October 23 2011 09:43 Itsmedudeman wrote:On October 23 2011 09:43 Doodsmack wrote:Poll: Did MVP and NesTea agree beforehand to split the pot?Yes (143) 63% No (84) 37% 227 total votes Your vote: Did MVP and NesTea agree beforehand to split the pot? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Where's the "no, you're a fucking idiot" answer? You must be new to esport then new to esports 20 posts lol. even if they did, the last game was sick even though nestea played like garbage.
There is not only TL in the world my friend.
And secondly, having agreed on evening the pot a bit does not make them play poorly. They are competitors and really want to win anyways. There is just less pressure involved
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you guys really think someone as good as nestea, at the end would build 28 broods, and attack BUT forget to bring his 4 overseers and his 5 infestors?
this isn't even including the beginning of the game where he sits on 15k minerals
you have to be delusional as fuck to think it was a serious game and they didn't have an agreement
User was temp banned for this post.
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Stop saying the game is fixed, this take away from the MVP win.
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On October 23 2011 09:52 tlrocksss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 09:51 Tyrant0 wrote:On October 23 2011 09:47 n00b3rt wrote:
F*** blizzard and Browder and Kim, for making a game where failing doomdrops, letting a terran have half the map while on 15k/5k and staying passive, doing nothing against drops, donating mutas and broodlords, attacking with broodlords without support, letting 20+ drones die to a nuke and not using mutas to their full potential in the early-mid game when terran is not well defended and is on multiple bases will not make zergs win. I'm now writing this angry post, because my hatred for the game's balance is totally objective, and is not at all related to any type of miserable online life with multiple stupid losses because of my own failures, that I blame the game balance for ... You're delusional. Take your balance whine elsewhere. Nestea played like garbage. He couldn't engage. He didn't play like garbage, that makes all your opinions invalid just being a dick.
He played terrible.
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On October 23 2011 09:52 diophan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 09:50 tlrocksss wrote:On October 23 2011 09:50 diophan wrote:On October 23 2011 09:45 tlrocksss wrote:On October 23 2011 09:44 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On October 23 2011 09:43 freewareplayer wrote:
A tier 2 unit countering a tier 3 unit is ok, but a tier 2 unit countering the complete tier 3 of a race is not right no matter how you look at it It's countered by the tier 1...... Ghost counter lings. If you can use 30 ghosts to hit snipe on 100 lings before they die then sure. You don't have 100 lings, because then tanks or hellions just murder them. True story. That sure sounds like it's the tanks that are the counter to lings, not ghosts. Apparently "ghost counter lings" is to be taken as meaning "ghosts that sit next to siege tanks counter lings"?
Lets just say the original post was, lings counter ghost,
which is not true, ghosts and lings are pretty nuetal i guess, but 1 ghost will kill 10+ lings sniping some then gutting the rest (its actually cost efficent for ghosts.)
And when 20 ghosts engage 100 lings the ghosts win
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On October 23 2011 09:54 Woizit wrote:
When you have over 100 banelings against a Terran that has 50 SCVs and over 10 Vikings for non-existent Broodlords, I don't care how OP Terran is, they can't have enough supply to counter-push efficiently before the ling remax.
Why counter push? Just sit there, remake the 20 marines and 5 tanks and 5 ghosts you lost in less than 5 minutes, and you are fine. Thats generous, i don't expect 100 banelings to come close to touching that Terran army.
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On October 23 2011 09:52 E-Coffee wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 09:50 tlrocksss wrote:On October 23 2011 09:45 Oboeman wrote:On October 23 2011 09:44 tlrocksss wrote:
Zerg CANT do anythign in that position, Terran make 20 ghosts, about 8-9 tanks, 1-2 thors, possibly some hellions, ~10 vikings, and 30 marines.
You cant beat it.
BUT! there is a way to fix this.
Nerf snipe, by increasing energy cost or decreasing damage. otherwise you can just snipe overseers, nuke spines, and nuke bases all day. Can't engage it. there was no way for MVP to attack nestea either. guess what he did? constant drops. hmmmmmmm You don't understand. in the lategame, Zerg wants to be the one attacking, not defending. Unless they blow ~5000 min on spines in all their bases they can be taken out by 1-2 drops and lose valuable buildings. Terran can just turtle up and put up turret rings because whatever the zerg attacks with they just kill it. So the zerg cant afford the spend minerals building spines but the terran can spend minerals buildings turrets...?
yes because zerg has to remax a shit ton "the swarm race"
where terran lategame barlely lose anything
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On October 23 2011 09:55 garlicface wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 09:53 thebig1 wrote:
I think it's a bit harsh to call it fixed, but I don't understand how the people saying that final game was epic. It just didn't feel like either of them WANTED the win. The complete lack of competitive feel ruined the match for me. It felt like two low masters players playing with many mistakes.
I suspect they decided to split the prize and show "good games" to the fans. As a result neither of them wanted to end the game too quickly without something "awesome" happening. Personally, that's not what makes a game good...
And even with that aside. It was just even worse of a turtle fest than basically every TvT i've ever seen. hahahaha holy shit. Okay, you win. This is the post that will make me log off TL for the night. Fuck it, I'm outtie.
Bye, you won't be missed ♥
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Guys you should calm down and think rationally. Zerglings are good against ghosts, it's a fact, and it says so in the in-game help menu.
Also look at the liquipedia  Ghost "weak against: zergling"
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