• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:53
CEST 22:53
KST 05:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down10ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League54Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.166
StarCraft 2
General
REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.16 No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
Do we even care about balance? Bot on ladder [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos Sagi.gg Launcher Released Rollback Netcode in Brood War
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [ASL22] Grand Finals [BSL23] RO24 Group Stage KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Armies of Exigo - YesYes? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion!
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
How Much Genes Contribute to…
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7820 users

Blizzcon Day 2 - Page 303

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 301 302 303 304 305 331 Next
Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.

TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.

- p4NDemik
HigoSeco
Profile Joined December 2010
Chile232 Posts
October 23 2011 01:02 GMT
#6041
I really don't understand how some people can't see how that last game was practically a showmatch.
Either that or Nestea was trying to get ghosts nerfed.

User was temp banned for this post.
PaeZ
Profile Joined April 2005
Mexico1627 Posts
October 23 2011 01:02 GMT
#6042
On October 23 2011 10:01 Canucklehead wrote:
Man that game was so amazing. I dare anyone to name a bw game that good, cause it doesn't exist. Bisu and co must have been watching that with envy.


this is one of the most stupid posts I have seen in years, nice troll
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
October 23 2011 01:03 GMT
#6043
Everyone who was in TL IRC during grand finals and were counting SEANs: you fucking assholes, I can't watch State of the SEAN now. %D
I live in Russia. I wear the fufaika, valenoks and the shapka-ushanka with the red star. I drink vodka straight from the samovar, and my riding bear plays on the balalaika.
Gorguts
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada254 Posts
October 23 2011 01:03 GMT
#6044
That game was just sooo sloppy.

I don't wanna say "Fixed" but I think they were trying to make the final game more "epic" and that just made it look fake.


of course most SC2 spectators will instantly call a game amazing as soon as they see Nukes/Battlecruiser/Other high tier units
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
October 23 2011 01:03 GMT
#6045
where is Jaedong is my only question
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
October 23 2011 01:03 GMT
#6046
On October 23 2011 10:02 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Why is the closing ceremony "premium"?


Foo Fighters.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
October 23 2011 01:03 GMT
#6047
On October 23 2011 10:01 RudePlague wrote:
MVP admits Terran is OP. Nestea knows Terran is OP. They got together and rigged that last game to prove to Blizzard how OP it is so that they'll do something about it.

Obviously.


MVP admits Terran is OP? Only time I heard him talk about balance was in an old interview where he said Terran was the weakest race.
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: IMNestea (Death), IMLosirA (Famine), IMmvp (War), IMFenix (Conquest)
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 23 2011 01:03 GMT
#6048
....wat?
twitch.tv/medrea
unsaintly
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany687 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 01:04:19
October 23 2011 01:03 GMT
#6049
On October 23 2011 10:01 PrimeTimey wrote:
Nestea has become the number one SC2 earner in prize winnings, he has won over $225,000 - http://www.sc2earnings.com/player/123/lim-jae-duk

That's NesTea..
e: ok you saw it yourself :D
mikep
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden133 Posts
October 23 2011 01:03 GMT
#6050
I do consider mvp the better player, but that match was by no means great. It felt like some stupid showmatch. Nestea banking resources for no apparent reason and doing a terrible drop, finish it off with a ridiculously bad army composition is in no way top class play.
I don't play for fun.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
October 23 2011 01:03 GMT
#6051
NYAN CAT LOL
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada951 Posts
October 23 2011 01:03 GMT
#6052
On October 23 2011 10:01 Canucklehead wrote:
Man that game was so amazing. I dare anyone to name a bw game that good, cause it doesn't exist. Bisu and co must have been watching that with envy.



joke?
pak150
Profile Joined September 2010
United States531 Posts
October 23 2011 01:03 GMT
#6053
On October 23 2011 10:01 Goibon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 10:00 windsupernova wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:57 Goibon wrote:
Can anyone recommend me a pro level game where a Zerg has a good amount of coin banked, and attempts to break a Terran siege/ghost line using units which aren't Ultra/Brood? I don't care if they succeed or not, i just want to see if such a game exists.


Puma vs Idra at IEM. Turtle Terran vs Zerg. Idra won, and yeah Puma had Ghosts

Awesome, thanks, i'll look into it. Did Idra use Ling/Bling or what?

You can watch the replay here: http://sc2casts.com/cast5739-IdrA-vs-PuMa-Best-of-5-All-in-1-video-IEM-China-Semi-Finals
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 01:05:15
October 23 2011 01:03 GMT
#6054
Are you guys serious ? Nestea made 27 broodlords without support vs ghost and vikings... and you found imbalance here ? 17 ghosts are SUPPOSE to kill 27 broodlords... Just like banelings kill marines. With 10k in the bank Nestea could easily remax 2 times with ling/baneling and simply kill everything. Terran can't reproduce that fast.
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
October 23 2011 01:04 GMT
#6055
....did i just see a girls hairy armpit on my Blizzcon stream? scarred...
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
October 23 2011 01:04 GMT
#6056
On October 23 2011 10:01 Canucklehead wrote:
Man that game was so amazing. I dare anyone to name a bw game that good, cause it doesn't exist. Bisu and co must have been watching that with envy.

/sarcasm?
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Titanidis
Profile Joined April 2006
Greece132 Posts
October 23 2011 01:04 GMT
#6057
Zerg player here, wanted nestea to win, but his late game was more than dissappointing. Can't understand what it is, he kind of stopped after midgame curious to see his apm.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
October 23 2011 01:04 GMT
#6058
On October 23 2011 10:02 PaeZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 10:01 Canucklehead wrote:
Man that game was so amazing. I dare anyone to name a bw game that good, cause it doesn't exist. Bisu and co must have been watching that with envy.


this is one of the most stupid posts I have seen in years, nice troll


his profile says : Joined TL.net, Sunday, 6th of March 2011
Terran & Potato Salad.
NNTP
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada47 Posts
October 23 2011 01:04 GMT
#6059
Remember what Nestea said in his interview after he won the Upper bracket? Something along the lines of:

"Thank you for supporting me, I will definitely show you good games in the finals"!

And that's absolutely what happened imo. He should have won so many times over. crippling MVP in the final match, then taking the whole right side of the map, control the middle of the map, banking 15k+ resource while maxed for 20 minutes. all he needed to do was build static defense and detection at all bases and keep throwing units towards mvp. That last engagement....really? 25 Broodlords? also, he had made like 6 overseers and NONE of them were sent with his army. letting the ghost reign supreme. In addition why didn't he research burrow and force MVP to scan for infestors and drone\queens at the expansions... Really makes no sense how he threw away an easy match for him other than he thought he won so he just wanted to entertain at the cost of $25,000 additional prize money
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
October 23 2011 01:05 GMT
#6060
something is strange because at one point nestea had 192/192 and then he dropped to 184/192 and back to 192/192.. he didn't make that one more overlord for around 3-5 minutes and that was something that even bronze player wouldn't do

ghosts are too sick, you can't deal with them in that phase of the game.. but nestea could finished it much earlier.. something is weird in that game
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
Prev 1 301 302 303 304 305 331 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 7m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 394
Liquid`TLO 169
JuggernautJason112
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 17037
firebathero 329
ProTech214
910 33
Yoon 20
HiyA 14
Dota 2
syndereN414
monkeys_forever154
Counter-Strike
Fnx 801
kRYSTAL_41
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu872
Trikslyr52
Other Games
summit1g3560
Beastyqt914
FrodaN845
fl0m796
ToD291
C9.Mang0175
QueenE53
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix9
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3092
League of Legends
• Scarra628
Other Games
• imaqtpie942
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 7m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
14h 7m
Harstem vs Zoun
Harstem vs GgMaChine
GgMaChine vs Lambo
Harstem vs Lambo
GgMaChine vs Zoun
Lambo vs Zoun
OSC
17h 7m
Big Brain Bouts
19h 7m
FEL
1d 12h
Patches Events
1d 16h
AI Arena Tournament
1d 20h
FEL
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-20
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.