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darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
October 08 2011 20:36 GMT
#7061
Getting a 2nd warp prism and speed on one base vs a guy turtling 2 base with blink stalkers has to be the worst decision making I've seen all tournament.
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2076 Posts
October 08 2011 20:36 GMT
#7062
On October 09 2011 05:35 Fiel wrote:
MC:
- Take all of your probes. You're already all-in because you don't have an expo. Might as well.
- Got too greedy with the immortal drop. He lost 2 immos and a WP trying to take out an extra pylon.
- Was teching to colo necessary?


Those colossus did work in that battle, losing those two immortals was probably the biggest mistake in that game.
#1 Jaehoon Fan! 김재훈 화팅!
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 08 2011 20:36 GMT
#7063
On October 09 2011 05:35 MIhata wrote:
Talk abaut bad luck...

More like bad control and play
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
October 08 2011 20:36 GMT
#7064
On October 09 2011 05:20 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:44 Demonace34 wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:43 Logros wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:42 Kamikazess wrote:
I really don't get this muta play against a protoss with a lot of phoenix already in play, and stalkers.

They destroy phoenix once the numbers are high enough due to mutas hitting multiple targets.

If I remember correctly, that isn't correct. Even with the bounce, equal number of phoenix counter mutalisks.

Going to go try it out in the editor, brb.


Just wanted to make sure I actually did follow up with my results.

All with a-moving both forces in a unit tester.

Small scale battles
10 phoenix vs 15 mutalisk
6 phoenix left.
10 phoenix vs 20 mutalisk
11-12 mutalisk left.

Average Scale Battles
20 phoenix vs 20 mutalisk
15-16 phoenix left.
20 phoenix vs 25 mutalisk
13 phoenix left.
20 phoenix vs 30 mutalisk
5 phoenix left.

Large Scale Battles
50 phoenix vs 60 mutalisk
23 phoenix left.
50 phoenix vs 75 mutalisk
18 mutas left.
50 phoenix vs 70 mutalisk
9 out of 10 times phoenix win with 7-12 phoenix left. One time Mutalisk came out on top with 6 left.

From what I've gathered from around 50 unit tests that if the gas used is equal the phoenix will always win. The closer that mutalisk get to the same mineral consumption the better chance they have to win engagements. With good to above average micro or a good spread of phoenix the more likely they will beat out bigger amounts of mutalisk.


I thought counters were supposed to be cheaper than the units they're supposed to counter. Equal gas of phoenix means you spent more in resources to counter it. :\

Anyway, so sad for MC. Guy can't even catch a break outside of Korea. T~T
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
BryanSC
Profile Joined October 2010
United States455 Posts
October 08 2011 20:36 GMT
#7065
Lesson of the day:

For defending early pressure, Immortals are decent. Afterwards they are completely, disgustingly awful and useless. And yeah, don't lose your warp prisms, better yet, don't even use them unless with DT's in PVP.

Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
October 08 2011 20:36 GMT
#7066
Inori is pretty damn good. Course losing that warp prism with those immortals helped him a lot but the nail in the coffin were those 3 stalkers he used to kill MC`s reinforcing pylon and probe.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
October 08 2011 20:36 GMT
#7067
MC looked invincible on day 1, now he gets knocked out of the tournament in a PvP 1-2.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
netsky4
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria511 Posts
October 08 2011 20:37 GMT
#7068
His own fault, 2 immortals could have made the difference
KingLori
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany187 Posts
October 08 2011 20:37 GMT
#7069
MC vs HuK would have been so awesome :o
teide
Profile Joined July 2011
Spain178 Posts
October 08 2011 20:37 GMT
#7070
why warm prism? just win easy qq
My name is reek it rhymes with peek.
Vorlik
Profile Joined October 2010
1522 Posts
October 08 2011 20:37 GMT
#7071
On October 09 2011 05:35 Capped wrote:
Ahahahaha bye bye MC, words cant express how happy you just made me!

Three months ago, he looked so smug rubbing his shit in peoples faces. Now you look at his face and you see how humbled he has been. Good.

Your either humble, or you get humbled. simple as.


Really....it was just show for people. He's a good guy -_-
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
October 08 2011 20:37 GMT
#7072
On October 09 2011 05:36 Courstice wrote:
Thats PvP for you. Players of lesser skill can beat better players. I don't know much of Inori but I think MC would have had a better chance against all the Ts and Zs than inori.



I'm a big MC fan, but to be honest MC was the worse player here. Made such incredible mistakes:|
RealQ
Profile Joined March 2011
1120 Posts
October 08 2011 20:37 GMT
#7073
Huk will 4gate the shit out of inori hopefully.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
October 08 2011 20:37 GMT
#7074
Only 4 or 5 foreigners in Ro16... sick!
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
October 08 2011 20:37 GMT
#7075
On October 09 2011 05:35 hewley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 05:34 insolentrus wrote:
pvp is shit
just about BO, nothing about skill


Haha whine in a mirror matchup, I guess the sad zealot hates himself too.

PvP is terrible and probably always will be. It just sucks so much that the only realistic protoss hope in this tournament got knocked out in a pvp.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 20:37:57
October 08 2011 20:37 GMT
#7076
mc planned to do 4 gate warpprism but the early pressure of inori delayed it a bit and then its just not so dangerous any more. just went really bad for mc - no reason to blame him.
Progamer
Roynalf
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland886 Posts
October 08 2011 20:37 GMT
#7077
Stephano gona 2-0 Kiwikaki
(V) (;,,;) (V) Woopwoopwoopwoop
sirreginold
Profile Joined September 2011
United States557 Posts
October 08 2011 20:37 GMT
#7078
2 immortals would have really helped in that fight.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 08 2011 20:37 GMT
#7079
Anyone know when Bo5 starts? In Ro8? Ro4? Only final?
Reapher
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru131 Posts
October 08 2011 20:37 GMT
#7080
sigh MC but really well played by Inori
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