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Standard LR thread rules apply. No caster bashing, no insulting the interviewers, no player bashing, no balance whining. Bans will be doled out to violators so don't shit up this thread with immature garbage.
Makica
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada180 Posts
October 08 2011 20:37 GMT
#7081
Glad to see MC lose. PvP should finally punish 1 base play. The reason Terrans have much better results imo is significantly from the skill difficulty of their mirror match up. Compared to stone age PvP.
Mike15xp
Profile Joined December 2010
United States595 Posts
October 08 2011 20:37 GMT
#7082
HerO and MC both out ... i am a sad sad boy right now :[
rareh
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal298 Posts
October 08 2011 20:37 GMT
#7083
Inori is really good, he completely outplayed MC.
Am glad that mc is out, all he does is cheese every game or 2 base timing.
ScaringKids
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal819 Posts
October 08 2011 20:37 GMT
#7084
I dont get why MC feels the need for all this all-in play...seriously hes more than capable of playing standard against anyone. Why MC why...

Inori played great specially in game 2.
MC | NesTea | Jaedong | PartinG | Liquid'HerO | MvP | Flash | White-Ra | Polt | Squirtle |
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
October 08 2011 20:37 GMT
#7085
On October 09 2011 05:35 minhbq299 wrote:
FUCK IT, MC won the group getting high seed, and match against a Protoss, PvP, fucking luck based match -up.

Dude, the game was lost due to poor decision making. Warping in within range if blink stalkers was a terrible idea. The 2nd immortals lost even easier was him being greedy. if he didn't lose those he would have won that battle fairly easily
ichnaschekot
Profile Joined January 2011
380 Posts
October 08 2011 20:38 GMT
#7086
Does someone know why they don't switch off the healthbars?
Worldatlarge
Profile Joined June 2011
United States649 Posts
October 08 2011 20:38 GMT
#7087
On October 09 2011 05:35 Xxavi wrote:
That's it, I think it's safe to say we won't see Protoss winning the tournament. Most like a terran winner, I cannot see zergs stopping Puma or MMA.


MMA didn't look good at all playing Sheth, I think Sleep can probably take him down. Puma might be a bit tougher.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
October 08 2011 20:38 GMT
#7088
On October 09 2011 05:35 ceaRshaf wrote:
I don;t care for INORI cause he doesn't have a real chance. He is nobody. MC has what it takes to be a champ.


no he doesn't. (I would add he isn't playing terran, but I can't because it would get me banned :p)

User was temp banned for this post.
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20282 Posts
October 08 2011 20:38 GMT
#7089
On October 09 2011 05:36 Ownos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 05:20 Demonace34 wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:44 Demonace34 wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:43 Logros wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:42 Kamikazess wrote:
I really don't get this muta play against a protoss with a lot of phoenix already in play, and stalkers.

They destroy phoenix once the numbers are high enough due to mutas hitting multiple targets.

If I remember correctly, that isn't correct. Even with the bounce, equal number of phoenix counter mutalisks.

Going to go try it out in the editor, brb.


Just wanted to make sure I actually did follow up with my results.

All with a-moving both forces in a unit tester.

Small scale battles
10 phoenix vs 15 mutalisk
6 phoenix left.
10 phoenix vs 20 mutalisk
11-12 mutalisk left.

Average Scale Battles
20 phoenix vs 20 mutalisk
15-16 phoenix left.
20 phoenix vs 25 mutalisk
13 phoenix left.
20 phoenix vs 30 mutalisk
5 phoenix left.

Large Scale Battles
50 phoenix vs 60 mutalisk
23 phoenix left.
50 phoenix vs 75 mutalisk
18 mutas left.
50 phoenix vs 70 mutalisk
9 out of 10 times phoenix win with 7-12 phoenix left. One time Mutalisk came out on top with 6 left.

From what I've gathered from around 50 unit tests that if the gas used is equal the phoenix will always win. The closer that mutalisk get to the same mineral consumption the better chance they have to win engagements. With good to above average micro or a good spread of phoenix the more likely they will beat out bigger amounts of mutalisk.


I thought counters were supposed to be cheaper than the units they're supposed to counter. Equal gas of phoenix means you spent more in resources to counter it. :\

Anyway, so sad for MC. Guy can't even catch a break outside of Korea. T~T




Phoenix's are great vs mutas... but there is no way in hell to match them 1:1.


You need 4-5 stargates to do that, and you then immidiatly die to any kind of roach or hydra or infestor switch
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Sipher
Profile Joined January 2011
United States333 Posts
October 08 2011 20:38 GMT
#7090
What the hell is it with these people saying "Oh pvp..TT" and all that crap..The guy that expanded won..That's how it should be imo! It wasn't 4g vs 4g. I enjoyed those games alot, and I learned quite a bit from watching Inori! gg's Inori
Jomppa
Profile Joined July 2011
1225 Posts
October 08 2011 20:38 GMT
#7091
oh yes this ad again
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
October 08 2011 20:38 GMT
#7092
If kiwi loses, I'm going to kill myself.
H.k[D]
Profile Joined April 2010
United States260 Posts
October 08 2011 20:38 GMT
#7093
On October 09 2011 05:33 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 05:32 H.k[D] wrote:
seriously....

anyone else get the feeling if MC had attacked with the two immos in the WP, he would have succeeded?




When it is firmly beleived that a unit should be attack moved instead of micro'd to harass in an upgraded warp prism...


i meant if he had used the WP to micro in the main assault (like reaver dropping)
and to function as a forward pylon
koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
October 08 2011 20:38 GMT
#7094
On October 09 2011 05:37 Makica wrote:
Glad to see MC lose. PvP should finally punish 1 base play. The reason Terrans have much better results imo is significantly from the skill difficulty of their mirror match up. Compared to stone age PvP.

his 1 base play? when is the frekin last time he 1 base played?
he always did some 2 base play into long macro games idiot
Chvol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States200 Posts
October 08 2011 20:38 GMT
#7095
If anything, I'm liking PvP less with 1.4. They've shifted some of the emphasis away from early game micro, but it's simply been reallocated into early game build order luck.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
October 08 2011 20:38 GMT
#7096
On October 09 2011 05:37 flodeskum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 05:35 hewley wrote:
On October 09 2011 05:34 insolentrus wrote:
pvp is shit
just about BO, nothing about skill


Haha whine in a mirror matchup, I guess the sad zealot hates himself too.

PvP is terrible and probably always will be. It just sucks so much that the only realistic protoss hope in this tournament got knocked out in a pvp.

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Cackle™
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
October 08 2011 20:38 GMT
#7097
On October 09 2011 05:36 SpiZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 05:35 minhbq299 wrote:
FUCK IT, MC won the group getting high seed, and match against a Protoss, PvP, fucking luck based match -up.


Tell me that last match was lucked based, MC just played so bad last game, everything that could went wrong went

Agreed. You just can't lose an immortal drop like that, just too many units thrown away due to bad control or engagement.
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city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 20:39:23
October 08 2011 20:38 GMT
#7098
So there's going to be one protoss in the quarterfinals and none in the semis...bad day.

edit: this isn't balance-related, it's just that TvZ/TvT get boring after a while
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
October 08 2011 20:38 GMT
#7099
On October 09 2011 05:38 -_- wrote:
If kiwi loses, I'm going to kill myself.


when*
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
October 08 2011 20:38 GMT
#7100
lol what is this
hahahaha
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