EPTOn October 07 2011 05:38 Pippi wrote:
Live event with high prize pool, so wasted... Btw Sjow love to win stealth tournaments
Live event with high prize pool, so wasted... Btw Sjow love to win stealth tournaments
This was before, yeah pretty much
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Pippi
Sweden540 Posts
This was before, yeah pretty much | ||
Noam
Israel2209 Posts
On October 10 2011 05:29 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote: http://www.team-dignitas.net/articles/news/Starcraft-II/431/Sweden-win-IesF-2011-World-Championships/ Combining results with FIFA Online 2, the top 3 for the prize pool is: 1st (₩15,000,000) Sweden, SjoW 2nd (₩9,000,000) Korea, no SC2 player 3rd (₩6,000,000) Romania, DeathAngel Edit: FIFA finals were won by Korea over Romania. And Sweden made it to the quarterfinals. So no money for Grubby... Ever since that combined ranking of SC2 and FIFA was announced I was afraid this would happen. So we thought IeSF was bad for offering no stream or coverage, people said it was horrible that there will be no Korean representative. Grubby just got 2nd place in a "World Championship" tournament in Korea and he's not going to get any of the prize money. IeSF is the worst tournament in Starcraft2 history. | ||
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VoirDire
Sweden1923 Posts
On October 10 2011 05:29 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote: http://www.team-dignitas.net/articles/news/Starcraft-II/431/Sweden-win-IesF-2011-World-Championships/ Combining results with FIFA Online 2, the top 3 for the prize pool is: 1st (₩15,000,000) Sweden, SjoW 2nd (₩9,000,000) Korea, no SC2 player 3rd (₩6,000,000) Romania, DeathAngel Edit: FIFA finals were won by Korea over Romania. And Sweden made it to the quarterfinals. So no money for Grubby... What!? Why didn't grubby get any money? EDIT: Oh... Man that SUCKS  Anyway. Gratz to sjow! How is the money split between sjow and the swedish FIFA-players? | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On October 10 2011 06:50 Noam wrote: Ever since that combined ranking of SC2 and FIFA was announced I was afraid this would happen. So we thought IeSF was bad for offering no stream or coverage, people said it was horrible that there will be no Korean representative. Grubby just got 2nd place in a "World Championship" tournament in Korea and he's not going to get any of the prize money. IeSF is the worst tournament in Starcraft2 history. Shit man, that really pisses me off. Seriously >_< | ||
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falafelnr1
Sweden444 Posts
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United States7081 Posts
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SasukeStreams
Netherlands174 Posts
On October 10 2011 05:29 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote: http://www.team-dignitas.net/articles/news/Starcraft-II/431/Sweden-win-IesF-2011-World-Championships/ Combining results with FIFA Online 2, the top 3 for the prize pool is: 1st (₩15,000,000) Sweden, SjoW 2nd (₩9,000,000) Korea, no SC2 player 3rd (₩6,000,000) Romania, DeathAngel Edit: FIFA finals were won by Korea over Romania. And Sweden made it to the quarterfinals. So no money for Grubby... This happened last year as well. Grubby finished #2 in the wc3 competition behind FOXSoccer and he didn't get any money either. Basically it's a country competition where FIFA wins earn you more points than sc2 wins. Last year, finishing first in FIFA would give your country 150 points. Finishing first in wc3 would only give your country 100 points. I guess it's the same this year ... | ||
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michielbrands
Netherlands1146 Posts
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KoichiroDK
Denmark16 Posts
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Soma.bokforlag
Sweden448 Posts
bad tournaments, teams and companies will die out because people will avoid them, good will remain. thats how pretty much everything works in a capitalistic society and it works well | ||
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KoichiroDK
Denmark16 Posts
On October 10 2011 17:13 Soma.bokforlag wrote: I dont like the prospect of some big organisation declaring how things should be, isnt this a prime example of what happends when organisations like kespa interfere? bad tournaments, teams and companies will die out because people will avoid them, good will remain. thats how pretty much everything works in a capitalistic society and it works well If we can look past how the IeSF has treated the community with horrible news flow and non-excisting stream at this years tournament, then having a worldwide organisation is not a bad thing. It is just like having FIFA, IRU and what not. In the end it can benefit the players, but it takes time to build a worldwide federation. Many years. Things will not change with the IeSF and they dont "interfere" with how things are now. Commercial tournaments will still exist along side IeSF. Just like "French Open" and "Wimbledon" is a commercial tourmanent it works togther with the worldwide tennis federation. As for SCII I cant see why KeSPA running a national StarLeague in SCII couldnt co-exist with a international tournament like GSL. It is two different markets: national and international. It is just plain stupid in my opinion. | ||
ChapatiyaqPTSM
France1887 Posts
On October 10 2011 17:02 KoichiroDK wrote: 1st: Sweden (1st SCII and 5-8th FIFA) 2nd: Korea (1st in SCII) 3rd: Romania (3rd SCII and 2nd FIFA) 4th: Holland (2nd SCII and 8-16th FIFA) Korea 1st in SCII, with no player competing: God they're good!  jk, it's "1st in FIFA" obviouslyYeah, I'm not very happy with the system, because it's not like the federations do much for the players. In athletism or in tennis, I would understand, because the federations actually help the athletes, but in SC2, it's not valid in my opinion. But I can't say eSports federations don't do anything either, so if they can get their share of the SC2 growth, why not? Maybe I'm just sad for Grubby... But the horrible coverage, the Bo1 system in the groups... overall it's not a very likeable tournament. | ||
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snatcch
United States133 Posts
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KoichiroDK
Denmark16 Posts
On October 10 2011 17:02 KoichiroDK wrote: People tend to look past the fact that the IeSF 2011 World Championship is a nations tournament and not a player tournament. The players are selected/qualified through their national eSport federations to represent their federation/country. Thus at the IeSF 2011 World Championship you represent your nation and not yourself. No other tournament in the world does this (and dont say WCG because they dont). I had to edit my post after reading the rules.Again Prizemoney are awarded based on composite results of SCII and FIFA 1st: Sweden (1st SCII and 5-8th FIFA) 2nd: Korea (1st in FIFA) 3rd: Romania (3rd SCII and 2nd FIFA) 4th: Holland (2nd SCII and 8-16th FIFA) Ranking are like FIFA ranking. Pricemoney: Prizemoney are (according to rules) divided for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place. That means that Sweden recives 15.000.0000 KRW, 2nd 10.000.000 KRW and 3rd. 5.000.000 KRW in SCII. As the IeSF WorldChampionship is a nations tourmanent, then that means that the swedish esport federation recieves the money. What the federation decides to do with the money is up to the individual federation. My guess is that SESF will give SjoW the money, but that is my guess. | ||
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mashix
Singapore21 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZjI2c.jpg) Hey, are you sure that you use the correct flag? I saw my Vietnam flag up there, but the guy is clearly Chinese (Jen-yu Chan). | ||
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KoichiroDK
Denmark16 Posts
On October 10 2011 17:39 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote: Korea 1st in SCII, with no player competing: God they're good! jk, it's "1st in FIFA" obviouslyYeah, I'm not very happy with the system, because it's not like the federations do much for the players. In athletism or in tennis, I would understand, because the federations actually help the athletes, but in SC2, it's not valid in my opinion. But I can't say eSports federations don't do anything either, so if they can get their share of the SC2 growth, why not? Maybe I'm just sad for Grubby... But the horrible coverage, the Bo1 system in the groups... overall it's not a very likeable tournament. Thanks I corrected it. Federations take time to build and their aim is to help players and organize national tournaments. Also nationally. It may come as a surprice to many gamers, but most politicians see gaming as a fun and not sport :-P jk. Thus it takes time to convince them to support eSports. Federations needs government support to excist otherwise they will just be another commercial project. KeSPA - like then or not - har done ALOT for SC/BW in 10 years, and SC/BW probably wouldnt have been where it was in 2009, if it werent for KeSPAs efforts. Now they have a fight with Blizzard about SCII and that is a problem. Not a problem for KeSPA, but for eSports. PS: Talking federations. Many federations like FIFA and tennis has been around for more than 100 years. IeSF was founded in 2008. Give it time please. | ||
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Rustug
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
EDIT: ok perhaps they did know before,but sitllthis is stupid. | ||
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snatcch
United States133 Posts
On October 10 2011 18:13 mashix wrote: Hey, are you sure that you use the correct flag? I saw my Vietnam flag up there, but the guy is clearly Chinese (Jen-yu Chan). IeSF did a good job of not recognizing Taiwan as a country | ||
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mashix
Singapore21 Posts
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