Information Date: October 7th - October 9th Location: Andong, South Korea Prizes: 1st: €9500, 2nd: €5700, 3rd: €3800 Participants: 26 Casters: N/A Stream Link: TBA Liquidpedia: url
Schedule 07/10/11 Groups 1-4 03:00 - 05:00 CEST 07/10/11 Groups 5-8 07:00 - 09:00 CEST 08/10/11 RO16/Quarters 03:00 - 05:00 CEST 08/10/11 Semis/3rd Place 06:00 - 08:00 CEST 09/10/11 Final 06:00 - 07:30 CES
Groups (unconfirmed winners underlined and runnerups italiced) Pool A: Basheer, FooFighter, Azad Pool B: elfittaja, sLivko, Agh Pool C: Osho, GoOdy, biGs Pool D: SjoW, sYz, PandaTank Pool E: Koce, Deathfate, aLtEscapist Pool F: Moutas, Softball, F91 Pool G: Ciara, Zeal, Orly Pool H: DeathAngel, Grubby, ReasoN
Posted this in the SotG thread, I'll post it again here:
I casted the IeSF US Qualifier. Idra took 1st, Sheth took 2nd, Agh took 3rd. Idra and Sheth are participating in IPL3, which is the same time as the IeSF World Championships, so Agh will be representing the US.
I inquired whether or not the World Championships would be broadcasted in English. They told me no. I then told them they should seriously consider it. They then asked me if I wanted to go cast the event, I would be given a computer, a microphone, and stream software. All production would be up to me, along with all threads to expose the event. I would pay for my plane ticket and that's it.
I turned them down, as far as I know this tournament won't be seen outside of korea. (It is during IPL3)
On October 07 2011 04:08 Axeltoss wrote: Posted this in the SotG thread, I'll post it again here:
I casted the IeSF US Qualifier. Idra took 1st, Sheth took 2nd, Agh took 3rd. Idra and Sheth are participating in IPL3, which is the same time as the IeSF World Championships, so Agh will be representing the US.
I inquired whether or not the World Championships would be broadcasted in English. They told me no. I then told them they should seriously consider it. They then asked me if I wanted to go cast the event, I would be given a computer, a microphone, and stream software. All production would be up to me, along with all threads to expose the event. I would pay for my plane ticket and that's it.
I turned them down, as far as I know this tournament won't be seen outside of korea. (It is during IPL3)
It's great that you took the initiative however it would have been nice if you could have told another caster to ask if he would be interested. Some caster is better than no caster
i think today its the opening ceremocies plus welcome parties and VIP stuff. srsly this is the weirdest tour i ev ever met. no info no updates no stream no calendar event shitty official site . its a shame cuz ppl from countries like greece have unique representatives and prolly wont hace the opportunity to see their country fighting to sth international. IeSF is either a joke or they just dont care at all. Even sc2 on their official site is not written as exhibition or official title.
It seems to me that the Bulgarian player is not Kalin. Kalin did not have a valid passport (according to the Bulgarian eSports Federation), so they replaced him. According to a Bulgarian website, it is Petko "Kose" Dilchev who will represent Bulgaria for SC2. (Source)
As far as I know the IeSF is different from most other esports events in that it's government sponsored for the purposes of promoting the host city. Providing coverage for non-Koreans is fairly low on their list of priorities.
On October 07 2011 04:08 Axeltoss wrote: Posted this in the SotG thread, I'll post it again here:
I casted the IeSF US Qualifier. Idra took 1st, Sheth took 2nd, Agh took 3rd. Idra and Sheth are participating in IPL3, which is the same time as the IeSF World Championships, so Agh will be representing the US.
I inquired whether or not the World Championships would be broadcasted in English. They told me no. I then told them they should seriously consider it. They then asked me if I wanted to go cast the event, I would be given a computer, a microphone, and stream software. All production would be up to me, along with all threads to expose the event. I would pay for my plane ticket and that's it.
I turned them down, as far as I know this tournament won't be seen outside of korea. (It is during IPL3)
It's great that you took the initiative however it would have been nice if you could have told another caster to ask if he would be interested. Some caster is better than no caster
I heavily doubt there is any caster interested in paying their own ticket (and probably hotel?). Though maybe some of the local casters (from the gsl) might take over?
On October 07 2011 04:08 Axeltoss wrote: Posted this in the SotG thread, I'll post it again here:
I casted the IeSF US Qualifier. Idra took 1st, Sheth took 2nd, Agh took 3rd. Idra and Sheth are participating in IPL3, which is the same time as the IeSF World Championships, so Agh will be representing the US.
I inquired whether or not the World Championships would be broadcasted in English. They told me no. I then told them they should seriously consider it. They then asked me if I wanted to go cast the event, I would be given a computer, a microphone, and stream software. All production would be up to me, along with all threads to expose the event. I would pay for my plane ticket and that's it.
I turned them down, as far as I know this tournament won't be seen outside of korea. (It is during IPL3)
It's great that you took the initiative however it would have been nice if you could have told another caster to ask if he would be interested. Some caster is better than no caster
It's not up to me on whether they approach anyone else. For all I know, they did.
On October 07 2011 05:33 mighty_honour_korea wrote: As far as I know the IeSF is different from most other esports events in that it's government sponsored for the purposes of promoting the host city. Providing coverage for non-Koreans is fairly low on their list of priorities.
It's also very poorly organised.
I attended last year's IeSF in Daegu, Korea as a wc3 player and I can confirm this. However, I have to disagree (to a certain extent) about the organisation of the tournament. The flight, hotel and schedule were all arranged perfectly and we had no issues with that. The tournament itself however, was a bit of a disappointment as they did not seem to care about feedback they recieved from the players.
We were not allowed to watch each-others games, not even as an observer on a different side of the room. We talked to the admins numerous times about this, but the 'big bosses' so to say were stubborn and clinged to their rules. There was a really nice female admin though who totally understood our pain and tried her hardest to get things changed, but they would not even listen to her as well =(
There was a small games market at the venue at which we could spend some time but you saw it all if you spent 2 hours there. They expected us to show up at the venue every day, even though we weren't allowed to watch any games whatsoever (and would be wasting our time pointlessly there), and would get upset when we did not show up or wanted to leave early!
They also seemed to have quite a bit of pointless meetings, about promoting esports and how to make esports known to the general public but to be honest i had a feeling it was all a farce. If all the time spent on these meetings was actually put to good use, I am sure IeSF would be an amazing tournament.
The most important part of an esport tournament is providing actual live coverage and promote the event on the various community sites to make the tournament more known. Especially if they want to promote the host city. For example when you would be broadcasting this tournament online live, you could create a small video clip that would be shown at the start of each day or in between matches showing the host city and it's surrounding area while telling something about it's history and the various places you could visit if you go there. If promoting the city really was their purpose, this is the way to go!
I still had a blast at last year's IeSF and I would love to go there again, however there should be more emphasis on the actual tournament itself. The host city would get even better international promotion as well. It doesn't cost much to get one lousy caster to fly over (I am available if you need me! xD) and to get your message to reach the international public as well.
The tournament format is appalling. 3 players in a group, you play a single game (Bo1) against the two others in your group and top 2 advance.
After so many qualifier tournaments in each nation, some spanning months, after flying 12+ hours to Korea all the player gets is 2 Bo1s ?
In my eyes this is worse than the admins not caring about the international audience. This is mistreating professional players who worked very hard to get to this final event.
elfi said his group is gonna play against Ciara´s group, so if the groups go logically there will be elfi vs. Ciara and sLivko vs. Orly matches, also he said biGs won his group
any info on the other groups? i would highly appreciate any info on our only greek representative MOUTAS on group F. gratz onm all the ppl brining valid info. good job guys
ps1) its really frustrating thugh we cannot even learn results on time from official sources.
nope absolutely no official source. we should keep up trustworthy sources like ppl in this thread. i m resfreshing constantly. seems like ppl who are actually there or have immediate contact with players or ppl in korea will inform us soon.
On October 07 2011 18:46 StavrosHL wrote: thats a copy paste from Moutas post on greek sc2 forum before 5 minutes.so seems valid. prolly vietnam flag and name is false.
Cool, I trust players info more than those organizers, most of the names are written wrong like Samuli Antero Sihoven
On October 07 2011 18:46 StavrosHL wrote: thats a copy paste from Moutas post on greek sc2 forum before 5 minutes.so seems valid. prolly vietnam flag and name is false.
Would be awesome if u can find out what happend for real^^
since he posted the results by him self...results seems legit and valid. so softball was in his group. apparently he advanced and he plays again with softball if brackets are correct.
If you go to twitter and query for 'iesf' you can follow the twit stream about IeSF. There are some guys posting some linkgs, one related to SC2, but my job computer blocks this URL. This is the URL: http://star2.gamechosun.co.kr/board/view.php?bid=sc2e&num=40375&cate=3 probably in korean, but maybe it could be a korean website giving some live report/coverage.
1-A x 2-H 2-A x 1-H 1-B x 2-G (elfi x Ciara) 2-B x 1-G (Slivko x Orly) 1-C x 2-F (biGs x Moutas) 2 C x 1-F (Osho x Softball) 1 D x 2-E (Sjow x ???) 2 D x 1-E
Call yourself International e-Sports Federation. Make tournament in Korea, without Korean participants, but also without coverage outside of Korea. WTF?
Thanks for updating Liquipedia Looks like there are some surprising results already (Goody T_T). To be expected of course with BO1 matches.
On October 07 2011 05:30 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote: It seems to me that the Bulgarian player is not Kalin. Kalin did not have a valid passport (according to the Bulgarian eSports Federation), so they replaced him. According to a Bulgarian website, it is Petko "Kose" Dilchev who will represent Bulgaria for SC2. (Source)
On 2.09.11 they announce that there will be qualifications tourney on 15.09.11
On the 12th they announce that the tourney will take place at 10 in the morning on the next day.
After the tourney they announce that they require a scanned copy of the winner's passport by 15:00 on the same day(at first they require the winner to bring his actual passport to their office, then they say only a copy is required).
Not only the winner, but no player that participated in the tourney is actually able to fulfill that requirement, the player that was sent did not even participate and is an unknown.
The only player in sc2ranks with the nickname Koce is in silver.
On October 07 2011 20:06 warcralft wrote: If i am not wrong, Singapore's player should be aLtEscapist
not Zeal?
On October 07 2011 20:22 aFganFlyTrap wrote: this tournament has been an absolute disgrace in terms of coverage. wtf was IeSF thinking. in the past its been such a good competition(for war3)
I guess the amount of work to have a stream of the tournament would have been minimal. Especially compared to the price money they put into the tournament.
I mean it's BO1, and both Zergs have taken games of the best, so it is not that surprising and Goody was not that much above the other players in the group.
On October 07 2011 05:30 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote: It seems to me that the Bulgarian player is not Kalin. Kalin did not have a valid passport (according to the Bulgarian eSports Federation), so they replaced him. According to a Bulgarian website, it is Petko "Kose" Dilchev who will represent Bulgaria for SC2. (Source)
On 2.09.11 they announce that there will be qualifications tourney on 15.09.11
On the 12th they announce that the tourney will take place at 10 in the morning on the next day.
After the tourney they announce that they require a scanned copy of the winner's passport by 15:00 on the same day(at first they require the winner to bring his actual passport to their office, then they say only a copy is required).
Not only the winner, but no player that participated in the tourney is actually able to fulfill that requirement, the player that was sent did not even participate and is an unknown. The only player in sc2ranks with the nickname Koce is in silver.
Yeah, I tried to follow the Qualifiers from Google translations from Bulgarian to English: a real mess. I should have made myself clear about the "according to the BESF" part. I understood they also said Kalin was disrespectful. They don't look like the perfect people to run qualifiers. (Apparently, their poor management caused some problems for WCG too in the past )
On October 07 2011 05:30 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote: It seems to me that the Bulgarian player is not Kalin. Kalin did not have a valid passport (according to the Bulgarian eSports Federation), so they replaced him. According to a Bulgarian website, it is Petko "Kose" Dilchev who will represent Bulgaria for SC2. (Source)
On 2.09.11 they announce that there will be qualifications tourney on 15.09.11
On the 12th they announce that the tourney will take place at 10 in the morning on the next day.
After the tourney they announce that they require a scanned copy of the winner's passport by 15:00 on the same day(at first they require the winner to bring his actual passport to their office, then they say only a copy is required).
Not only the winner, but no player that participated in the tourney is actually able to fulfill that requirement, the player that was sent did not even participate and is an unknown. The only player in sc2ranks with the nickname Koce is in silver.
Yeah, I tried to follow the Qualifiers from Google translations from Bulgarian to English: a real mess. I should have made myself clear about the "according to the BESF" part. I understood they also said Kalin was disrespectful. They don't look like the perfect people to run qualifiers. (Apparently, their poor management caused some problems for WCG too in the past )
The sad part is that they sent friends of theirs that have nothing to do with starcraft2. For fifa online 2 they didin't even made qualifications. BFES is the company that ruined esports in Bulgaria. We had gold, silver and bronze medals in the past and now we don't even send a player that plays the game. They are just for vacation there.
On October 07 2011 05:30 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote: It seems to me that the Bulgarian player is not Kalin. Kalin did not have a valid passport (according to the Bulgarian eSports Federation), so they replaced him. According to a Bulgarian website, it is Petko "Kose" Dilchev who will represent Bulgaria for SC2. (Source)
On 2.09.11 they announce that there will be qualifications tourney on 15.09.11
On the 12th they announce that the tourney will take place at 10 in the morning on the next day.
After the tourney they announce that they require a scanned copy of the winner's passport by 15:00 on the same day(at first they require the winner to bring his actual passport to their office, then they say only a copy is required).
Not only the winner, but no player that participated in the tourney is actually able to fulfill that requirement, the player that was sent did not even participate and is an unknown. The only player in sc2ranks with the nickname Koce is in silver.
Yeah, I tried to follow the Qualifiers from Google translations from Bulgarian to English: a real mess. I should have made myself clear about the "according to the BESF" part. I understood they also said Kalin was disrespectful. They don't look like the perfect people to run qualifiers. (Apparently, their poor management caused some problems for WCG too in the past )
The sad part is that they sent friends of theirs that have nothing to do with starcraft2. For fifa online 2 they didin't even made qualifications. BFES is the company that ruined esports in Bulgaria. We had gold, silver and bronze medals in the past and now we don't even send a player that plays the game. They are just for vacation there.
That is really terrible, you should consider making a blog-post about it. Hopefully you can get it focus'd, and the issue will get some attention. WCG (and Samsung..!) should not be working with a corrupt organization.
I'm working on that. Since 2006 they do this every year. The last 2 years we didin't even had representitives in WCG. At least thir WCG licens is taken and Romania holds it currently so we'll have a good player for WCG.
On October 07 2011 05:30 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote: It seems to me that the Bulgarian player is not Kalin. Kalin did not have a valid passport (according to the Bulgarian eSports Federation), so they replaced him. According to a Bulgarian website, it is Petko "Kose" Dilchev who will represent Bulgaria for SC2. (Source)
On 2.09.11 they announce that there will be qualifications tourney on 15.09.11
On the 12th they announce that the tourney will take place at 10 in the morning on the next day.
After the tourney they announce that they require a scanned copy of the winner's passport by 15:00 on the same day(at first they require the winner to bring his actual passport to their office, then they say only a copy is required).
Not only the winner, but no player that participated in the tourney is actually able to fulfill that requirement, the player that was sent did not even participate and is an unknown. The only player in sc2ranks with the nickname Koce is in silver.
Yeah, I tried to follow the Qualifiers from Google translations from Bulgarian to English: a real mess. I should have made myself clear about the "according to the BESF" part. I understood they also said Kalin was disrespectful. They don't look like the perfect people to run qualifiers. (Apparently, their poor management caused some problems for WCG too in the past )
The sad part is that they sent friends of theirs that have nothing to do with starcraft2. For fifa online 2 they didin't even made qualifications. BFES is the company that ruined esports in Bulgaria. We had gold, silver and bronze medals in the past and now we don't even send a player that plays the game. They are just for vacation there.
That is really terrible, you should consider making a blog-post about it. Hopefully you can get it focus'd, and the issue will get some attention. WCG (and Samsung..!) should not be working with a corrupt organization.
The last WCG qualifications they ran were in 2008, so at least that isn't a problem.
On October 07 2011 21:21 Sbrubbles wrote: Who's the brazillian player??? Gogogo Brazil!
ReasoN, however it was posted that he's down 0-2 in Group H and out of the tournament. Not sure if its confirmed, maybe you have some Brazilian eSports websites to check so we can confirm? I know that each country sent an "official" person (mostly an organizer of qualifiers) and a "press" person so someone from Brazilian press is there.
On October 07 2011 21:21 Sbrubbles wrote: Who's the brazillian player??? Gogogo Brazil!
ReasoN, however it was posted that he's down 0-2 in Group H and out of the tournament. Not sure if its confirmed, maybe you have some Brazilian eSports websites to check so we can confirm? I know that each country sent an "official" person (mostly an organizer of qualifiers) and a "press" person so someone from Brazilian press is there.
Also its been confirmed that Ro16 will be Bo3.
The danish delegate told me DeathAngel beat Reason.
On October 07 2011 05:30 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote: It seems to me that the Bulgarian player is not Kalin. Kalin did not have a valid passport (according to the Bulgarian eSports Federation), so they replaced him. According to a Bulgarian website, it is Petko "Kose" Dilchev who will represent Bulgaria for SC2. (Source)
On 2.09.11 they announce that there will be qualifications tourney on 15.09.11
On the 12th they announce that the tourney will take place at 10 in the morning on the next day.
After the tourney they announce that they require a scanned copy of the winner's passport by 15:00 on the same day(at first they require the winner to bring his actual passport to their office, then they say only a copy is required).
Not only the winner, but no player that participated in the tourney is actually able to fulfill that requirement, the player that was sent did not even participate and is an unknown. The only player in sc2ranks with the nickname Koce is in silver.
Yeah, I tried to follow the Qualifiers from Google translations from Bulgarian to English: a real mess. I should have made myself clear about the "according to the BESF" part. I understood they also said Kalin was disrespectful. They don't look like the perfect people to run qualifiers. (Apparently, their poor management caused some problems for WCG too in the past )
It's clear it was said by them, I didn't mean to accuse you of lying or anything like that.
Also, considering the circumstances, even if Kalin was disrespectful, I wouldn't blame him at all.
Just heard info from elfi: semis are grubby vs softball and sjow vs deathangel. Sjow already won his semi and is in grand final. Elfi didn't win ciara, ciara won him and lost to deathangel.
On October 08 2011 13:26 GTR wrote: never expected in the world the south african would make the ro8.
Or player from Azerbaijan making it ro16 Even if it's just 24 ppl tourney, you never expect stuff from countries you never hear from. However, the south african guy is actually semihigh master in EU (1400p), so not someone to completely count out, considering only like half of the attendants in that tour are actually GM-level
On October 08 2011 13:54 AIKfans87 wrote: Sjow-grubby Grandfinal according to Sjows twitter.
Nicely done then by both, both had some pretty decent player on their side from the bracket. Curious if Grubby wins it will be his 3rd SEC victory (he won in wc3 in 2005 & 2006, took also a 3rd place in 2007). Would be a pretty impressive Run, knowing he also got 2 WCG titles under his belt (2004 & 2008), a silver WCG medal (2010) and a bronze WCG medal (2005) makes him by far one of the most impressive WCG/SEG athletes there is.
On October 08 2011 13:26 GTR wrote: never expected in the world the south african would make the ro8.
I don't really get it, this is the Samsung European Championsship, is my geological knowledge this bad...why does a player from South Africa attend here? (I like it, he's there....I just don't get it )
On October 08 2011 13:26 GTR wrote: never expected in the world the south african would make the ro8.
I don't really get it, this is the Samsung European Championsship, is my geological knowledge this bad...why does a player from South Africa attend here? (I like it, he's there....I just don't get it )
somebody doesn't know what thread he is in.
and I figured this would come down the Sjow vs Grubby
Big congratulations to PandaTank for making the RO8 and taking a game off of Softball!!! Good to finally see a South African name getting some international recognition.
On October 08 2011 18:10 StavrosHL wrote: actually u can.
Oh, okey. Got any website for this, thats not only let you bet on GSL? Can't find any
pinnaclesports.com always has bets for MLGs, IEMs, also for IPL and in season one also for NASL if there is an event you can mail them and they will take a look at it and even reply on why they didnt take it if they decline it
The IeSF finals between Grubby and SjoW is scheduled to Sunday 13:00 KST which is 04:00 GMT (+00:00) in your time zone (if you set it correctly in your TL profile).
This is the thread for the IeSF being held in Korea, are you guys linking to info about the WCG European tournament by accident or are just in the wrong thread?
On October 08 2011 23:52 Noam wrote: The IeSF finals between Grubby and SjoW is scheduled to Sunday 13:00 KST which is 04:00 GMT (+00:00) in your time zone (if you set it correctly in your TL profile).
This is the thread for the IeSF being held in Korea, are you guys linking to info about the WCG European tournament by accident or are just in the wrong thread?
kinda expected elfi and osho to do better, looking at the brackets i would have picked osho to make finals or at least semis
since there are no koreans in this tournament, i'm pretty sure that there was an announcement about a korean only tournament at the same place/venue - does anyone know the results?
On October 09 2011 13:12 gygy1958 wrote: concluzion 21 qualified player: 11 zerg, 5 terran , 5 protoss !final round protoss-terran blizzard patch advantage for terran and protos!
Kinda weird conclussion, "the powerhouse countries" (Netherlands, Scandinavia, Germany, Ukraine) didn't send in mostly Zergs. And I think that are the countries you should compare.
Aww, i was rooting for Grubby but Gz to Sjow! Shame about the no korean player and no broadcasting whatso-ever though ( some lessons for next year maybe? >_< ) nevertheless nice to see these 2 great players reach the finals, looks like training in Korea is paying off for both of them, and I will deffo check the vods of the final when/if they wil be available.
On October 09 2011 15:43 Morale wrote: Man that mustve been like the easiest money ever for Sjow:D
Lol Goody was there, Grubby was there, Elfi was there, its not like there were the worst players on the earth or something :S
GoOdy is bad as always on lan events.
but sjow not played anyone of them expect grubby and he isnt on sjows level so it was rly freemoney for sjow ^^ something like "here sjow a free car for you" ^^
The line-up might not have been so strong, but winning the tournament without dropping one single game is still very impressive by SjoW, well played sir.
Combining results with FIFA Online 2, the top 3 for the prize pool is: 1st (₩15,000,000) Sweden, SjoW 2nd (₩9,000,000) Korea, no SC2 player 3rd (₩6,000,000) Romania, DeathAngel
Edit: FIFA finals were won by Korea over Romania. And Sweden made it to the quarterfinals.
Combining results with FIFA Online 2, the top 3 for the prize pool is: 1st (₩15,000,000) Sweden, SjoW 2nd (₩9,000,000) Korea, no SC2 player 3rd (₩6,000,000) Romania, DeathAngel
Edit: FIFA finals were won by Korea over Romania. And Sweden made it to the quarterfinals.
So no money for Grubby...
Ever since that combined ranking of SC2 and FIFA was announced I was afraid this would happen.
So we thought IeSF was bad for offering no stream or coverage, people said it was horrible that there will be no Korean representative. Grubby just got 2nd place in a "World Championship" tournament in Korea and he's not going to get any of the prize money. IeSF is the worst tournament in Starcraft2 history.
Combining results with FIFA Online 2, the top 3 for the prize pool is: 1st (₩15,000,000) Sweden, SjoW 2nd (₩9,000,000) Korea, no SC2 player 3rd (₩6,000,000) Romania, DeathAngel
Edit: FIFA finals were won by Korea over Romania. And Sweden made it to the quarterfinals.
So no money for Grubby...
What!? Why didn't grubby get any money?
EDIT: Oh... Man that SUCKS
Anyway. Gratz to sjow! How is the money split between sjow and the swedish FIFA-players?
Combining results with FIFA Online 2, the top 3 for the prize pool is: 1st (₩15,000,000) Sweden, SjoW 2nd (₩9,000,000) Korea, no SC2 player 3rd (₩6,000,000) Romania, DeathAngel
Edit: FIFA finals were won by Korea over Romania. And Sweden made it to the quarterfinals.
So no money for Grubby...
Ever since that combined ranking of SC2 and FIFA was announced I was afraid this would happen.
So we thought IeSF was bad for offering no stream or coverage, people said it was horrible that there will be no Korean representative. Grubby just got 2nd place in a "World Championship" tournament in Korea and he's not going to get any of the prize money. IeSF is the worst tournament in Starcraft2 history.
Shit man, that really pisses me off. Seriously >_<
Combining results with FIFA Online 2, the top 3 for the prize pool is: 1st (₩15,000,000) Sweden, SjoW 2nd (₩9,000,000) Korea, no SC2 player 3rd (₩6,000,000) Romania, DeathAngel
Edit: FIFA finals were won by Korea over Romania. And Sweden made it to the quarterfinals.
So no money for Grubby...
This happened last year as well. Grubby finished #2 in the wc3 competition behind FOXSoccer and he didn't get any money either.
Basically it's a country competition where FIFA wins earn you more points than sc2 wins. Last year, finishing first in FIFA would give your country 150 points. Finishing first in wc3 would only give your country 100 points. I guess it's the same this year ...
It's treuly sad, that this is the eSport Federation...they make one big disgrace of esports. WCG/ESWC/MLG/ESL/GSL should bundle their forces with the big teams: SK/Fnatic/Liquid/EG/Millenium/mTw/Mousesports/Na'Vi/and so on and some of the "main forces": Grubby, Fatal1ty, BoxeR, TheSlash, etc. and make a decent eSport Federation who represents the community and makes sure that tournaments and players will make sure there is a certain standard in tournaments.
I dont like the prospect of some big organisation declaring how things should be, isnt this a prime example of what happends when organisations like kespa interfere?
bad tournaments, teams and companies will die out because people will avoid them, good will remain. thats how pretty much everything works in a capitalistic society and it works well
On October 10 2011 17:13 Soma.bokforlag wrote: I dont like the prospect of some big organisation declaring how things should be, isnt this a prime example of what happends when organisations like kespa interfere?
bad tournaments, teams and companies will die out because people will avoid them, good will remain. thats how pretty much everything works in a capitalistic society and it works well
If we can look past how the IeSF has treated the community with horrible news flow and non-excisting stream at this years tournament, then having a worldwide organisation is not a bad thing. It is just like having FIFA, IRU and what not. In the end it can benefit the players, but it takes time to build a worldwide federation. Many years.
Things will not change with the IeSF and they dont "interfere" with how things are now. Commercial tournaments will still exist along side IeSF. Just like "French Open" and "Wimbledon" is a commercial tourmanent it works togther with the worldwide tennis federation.
As for SCII I cant see why KeSPA running a national StarLeague in SCII couldnt co-exist with a international tournament like GSL. It is two different markets: national and international. It is just plain stupid in my opinion.
On October 10 2011 17:02 KoichiroDK wrote: 1st: Sweden (1st SCII and 5-8th FIFA) 2nd: Korea (1st in SCII) 3rd: Romania (3rd SCII and 2nd FIFA) 4th: Holland (2nd SCII and 8-16th FIFA)
Korea 1st in SCII, with no player competing: God they're good! jk, it's "1st in FIFA" obviously
Yeah, I'm not very happy with the system, because it's not like the federations do much for the players. In athletism or in tennis, I would understand, because the federations actually help the athletes, but in SC2, it's not valid in my opinion. But I can't say eSports federations don't do anything either, so if they can get their share of the SC2 growth, why not? Maybe I'm just sad for Grubby...
But the horrible coverage, the Bo1 system in the groups... overall it's not a very likeable tournament.
On October 10 2011 17:02 KoichiroDK wrote: People tend to look past the fact that the IeSF 2011 World Championship is a nations tournament and not a player tournament. The players are selected/qualified through their national eSport federations to represent their federation/country.
Thus at the IeSF 2011 World Championship you represent your nation and not yourself. No other tournament in the world does this (and dont say WCG because they dont).
I had to edit my post after reading the rules.Again
Prizemoney are awarded based on composite results of SCII and FIFA
1st: Sweden (1st SCII and 5-8th FIFA) 2nd: Korea (1st in FIFA) 3rd: Romania (3rd SCII and 2nd FIFA) 4th: Holland (2nd SCII and 8-16th FIFA)
Ranking are like FIFA ranking.
Pricemoney: Prizemoney are (according to rules) divided for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place. That means that Sweden recives 15.000.0000 KRW, 2nd 10.000.000 KRW and 3rd. 5.000.000 KRW in SCII.
As the IeSF WorldChampionship is a nations tourmanent, then that means that the swedish esport federation recieves the money. What the federation decides to do with the money is up to the individual federation. My guess is that SESF will give SjoW the money, but that is my guess.
On October 10 2011 17:02 KoichiroDK wrote: 1st: Sweden (1st SCII and 5-8th FIFA) 2nd: Korea (1st in SCII) 3rd: Romania (3rd SCII and 2nd FIFA) 4th: Holland (2nd SCII and 8-16th FIFA)
Korea 1st in SCII, with no player competing: God they're good! jk, it's "1st in FIFA" obviously
Yeah, I'm not very happy with the system, because it's not like the federations do much for the players. In athletism or in tennis, I would understand, because the federations actually help the athletes, but in SC2, it's not valid in my opinion. But I can't say eSports federations don't do anything either, so if they can get their share of the SC2 growth, why not? Maybe I'm just sad for Grubby...
But the horrible coverage, the Bo1 system in the groups... overall it's not a very likeable tournament.
Thanks I corrected it.
Federations take time to build and their aim is to help players and organize national tournaments. Also nationally. It may come as a surprice to many gamers, but most politicians see gaming as a fun and not sport :-P jk. Thus it takes time to convince them to support eSports. Federations needs government support to excist otherwise they will just be another commercial project. KeSPA - like then or not - har done ALOT for SC/BW in 10 years, and SC/BW probably wouldnt have been where it was in 2009, if it werent for KeSPAs efforts. Now they have a fight with Blizzard about SCII and that is a problem. Not a problem for KeSPA, but for eSports.
PS: Talking federations. Many federations like FIFA and tennis has been around for more than 100 years. IeSF was founded in 2008. Give it time please.
Good thing the IeSF doesn't host the Olympics. "Sorry Usain Bolt, I know you came in first and broke the world record, but your nations football team came in last so were not actually giving you a prize".
On October 10 2011 18:32 Rustug wrote: Good thing the IeSF doesn't host the Olympics. "Sorry Usain Bolt, I know you came in first and broke the world record, but your nations football team came in last so were not actually giving you a prize".
Hehe funny
But on a serious note. The olympics doesnt pay out money and never has. It is the national olympic federations that pay out money.
Example: In Denmark all sports has a union and those unions are all members of one big federation called DIF (Danish sports federation). It is DIF that sends athletes to the olympics (not Usain Bolt that decides on himself to go).
If Usain Bolt wins then the Jamacian sports federation probably has a bonus deal worked out with all athletes and he will get paid.
Oops I did not even notice this event happen, seem like same time with IPL3, but the player pool and coverage is not very good anyway. I dont think Sjow can get any credit winning this event )
Wtf, just noticed that this tournament exists. My boy SjoW went to Korea, beat a bunch of pretty damn mediocre players and made a shit-ton of money? Awesome!
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anyone got more results?
IeSF 2011 World Championship
Even if it's just 24 ppl tourney, you never expect stuff from countries you never hear from. However, the south african guy is actually semihigh master in EU (1400p), so not someone to completely count out, considering only like half of the attendants in that tour are actually GM-level
