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Bromazepam
820 Posts
On November 05 2011 22:26 murphs wrote: Idra is a banned word in the chat, kind of odd heh. It's a remnant of the bad blood that used to be there between Idra and TB. Twitch is being Twitch and, despite several attempts, the word keeps popping up in the censored list. | ||
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soupchicken
United States322 Posts
On November 05 2011 22:10 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Am I really the only one who thinks ESPORTS needs this deep rooted enmity of certain players to help fuel it's life cycle? Seriously - how many people would really care and be passionate about baseball if it wasn't for rivalries like the Yankees-Red Sox, or the Cubs-White Sox? These are a deep-rooted part of the history of baseball. In the NBA, it's the Celtics and the Lakers, or the Celtics and the Knicks. You love one, you absolutely despise the other. These add extra meaning to games that would otherwise be just simple somewhat meaningless matchups between two foes, games that hold little meaning in the grand scheme of things but now take on extra meaning in terms of the loyal fanbase. Without the fans, these sports (and, by the same token, ESPORTS) become meaningless and diminish. Baseball fans aren't going to watch 162 games a year. NBA fans probably don't mostly watch 82 games a year. And I know I don't have time to watch every time IdrA plays. But god damn, if I know he's playing someone where there's pride on the line (CrunCher, for example), I will devour that match. Rivalries like this build a bigger, more passionate scene, and it's ok to absolutely despise the other player and hope that he Because I care. Signed in just to say you nailed it. Anyone claiming that "we are above that" is just being pretentious. I will continue to be passionate about the players I enjoy watching because that's what makes it interesting to me. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On November 05 2011 22:32 Vaeila wrote: An 8 player tournament without dub. elim is indeed moronic No it's not? It's an invitational lol, I'd agree if they'd had to actually qualify to be here. | ||
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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
On November 05 2011 22:47 Bromazepam wrote: It's a remnant of the bad blood that used to be there between Idra and TB. Twitch is being Twitch and, despite several attempts, the word keeps popping up in the censored list. So we shall call him "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named". | ||
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GamerX
33 Posts
probably because of Dreamhack. TB's like Milkis but never leaves. Anyway whatever...go IdrA! <3 | ||
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Twelve12
Australia268 Posts
<3 aerowalk, one of my best maps  | ||
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straightupbeaches
2 Posts
On November 05 2011 22:42 sixfour wrote: not really. you didn't miss a great deal. 20 minutes Could I get a quick recap then please? Thanks | ||
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soupchicken
United States322 Posts
On November 05 2011 22:34 SinCitta wrote: But would you visit a forum that has fanatical fans from both teams bashing each other? Probably not, nothing good comes out of it. It might be funny at first, and feels pretty childlish very fast. In real life/barcraft/whatever this might be rivalry in all fun, because there are limits in normal human social interaction, but forums rarely have such thing. Edit: Also, in real sports, despite rivalries there is some form of deep respect for the skill of the opposing team, although this if of course not acknowledged. Otherwise, rivalries somewhat lose their "flavor". You are implying that sports forums are not full of trolling and team/player hating; in fact I have not been to any general (not team-specific) forum that isn't full of the stuff. It's all part of the fun. | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
On November 05 2011 22:50 GamerX wrote: Wait, what?probably because of Dreamhack. TB's like Milkis but never leaves. Anyway whatever...go IdrA! <3 | ||
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Demonaz
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On November 05 2011 22:10 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Am I really the only one who thinks ESPORTS needs this deep rooted enmity of certain players to help fuel it's life cycle? Seriously - how many people would really care and be passionate about baseball if it wasn't for rivalries like the Yankees-Red Sox, or the Cubs-White Sox? These are a deep-rooted part of the history of baseball. In the NBA, it's the Celtics and the Lakers, or the Celtics and the Knicks. You love one, you absolutely despise the other. These add extra meaning to games that would otherwise be just simple somewhat meaningless matchups between two foes, games that hold little meaning in the grand scheme of things but now take on extra meaning in terms of the loyal fanbase. Without the fans, these sports (and, by the same token, ESPORTS) become meaningless and diminish. Baseball fans aren't going to watch 162 games a year. NBA fans probably don't mostly watch 82 games a year. And I know I don't have time to watch every time IdrA plays. But god damn, if I know he's playing someone where there's pride on the line (CrunCher, for example), I will devour that match. Rivalries like this build a bigger, more passionate scene, and it's ok to absolutely despise the other player and hope that he Because I care. Must quote this post again because I agree completely. Part of the fun of watching sc2, especially in these LR threads, is fans having stupid arguments about why their player is better than the other one, or how he shouldn't have lost because of this obvious reason, etc. Its harmless banter of the kind common among fans watching any sporting contest. The whole racial bias thing only serves to fuel this, I don't see why its a problem. | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On November 05 2011 22:52 straightupbeaches wrote: Could I get a quick recap then please? Thanks i didn't see the elfi/select series, apparently the first three games were poor and the 4th was a decent macro game idra/white-ra was idra smacking white-ra about something silly the first two games, third was decent enough but white-ra could never really gain a decisive edge and didn't have too many good engagements, allowing idra to deny mining and starve him out. someone else can elaborate further if they want but there wasn't good games to speak about | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
Lol I thought I heard 2GD say "Fuck Total Biscuit" lol It's funny too cause I watch IdrAs stream and he said he doesn't like TB | ||
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Bromazepam
820 Posts
On November 05 2011 22:53 soupchicken wrote: You are implying that sports forums are not full of trolling and team/player hating; in fact I have not been to any general (not team-specific) forum that isn't full of the stuff. It's all part of the fun. Part of the fun? A bunch of mindless people spewing out pointless insults? Where is the fun in that? You guys want to make SC2 become more about this drama shit rather than about the game. This is why every time there is a tournament the banned thread grows 10 pages. You should do like that thread and grow up. | ||
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MuK_x
743 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On November 05 2011 22:57 Bromazepam wrote: Part of the fun? A bunch of mindless people spewing out pointless insults? Where is the fun in that? if everyone is somewhat grown up and well mannered then some trolling can be amusing. if it crosses the line into offensive/childish/whatever then that's when it'd become a problem | ||
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ambrosiaa
Singapore333 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On November 05 2011 22:59 ambrosiaa wrote: What time is the finals starting? faster than two shakes of a lamb's tail | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On November 05 2011 22:59 ambrosiaa wrote: What time is the finals starting? Now! :D | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On November 05 2011 22:57 Bromazepam wrote: Part of the fun? A bunch of mindless people spewing out pointless insults? Where is the fun in that? You guys want to make SC2 become more about this drama shit rather than about the game. This is why every time there is a tournament the banned thread grows 10 pages. You should do like that thread and grow up. The meta game is interesting. But it changes slowly. So there are alot of games that are just standard, and not very interesting. Loving and Hating players gets you through those boring games and it makes those games where there are big metagame shifts even better. | ||
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