• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:41
CET 11:41
KST 19:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down22ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
Evil Geniuses - shutting down Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War How SKT1 S-Tiers Felt To Be Swept By Flash Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings) BW General Discussion Sagi.gg Launcher Released
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [IPSL] IPSL Winter 26-27 Ro24 is HERE!
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Deus Ex 3!? Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Men's Fashion Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12067 users

ASUS ROG Stars Invite, $10 000 - Page 154

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
4852 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 152 153 154 155 156 243 Next
Leave off the casterbashing please. ~Nyovne
Bromazepam
Profile Joined August 2011
820 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 13:48:11
November 05 2011 13:47 GMT
#3061
On November 05 2011 22:26 murphs wrote:
Idra is a banned word in the chat, kind of odd heh.


It's a remnant of the bad blood that used to be there between Idra and TB.
Twitch is being Twitch and, despite several attempts, the word keeps popping up in the censored list.
Saying that something is killing esports is killing esports.
soupchicken
Profile Joined October 2010
United States322 Posts
November 05 2011 13:50 GMT
#3062
On November 05 2011 22:10 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Am I really the only one who thinks ESPORTS needs this deep rooted enmity of certain players to help fuel it's life cycle?

Seriously - how many people would really care and be passionate about baseball if it wasn't for rivalries like the Yankees-Red Sox, or the Cubs-White Sox? These are a deep-rooted part of the history of baseball. In the NBA, it's the Celtics and the Lakers, or the Celtics and the Knicks. You love one, you absolutely despise the other.

These add extra meaning to games that would otherwise be just simple somewhat meaningless matchups between two foes, games that hold little meaning in the grand scheme of things but now take on extra meaning in terms of the loyal fanbase.

Without the fans, these sports (and, by the same token, ESPORTS) become meaningless and diminish. Baseball fans aren't going to watch 162 games a year. NBA fans probably don't mostly watch 82 games a year. And I know I don't have time to watch every time IdrA plays. But god damn, if I know he's playing someone where there's pride on the line (CrunCher, for example), I will devour that match. Rivalries like this build a bigger, more passionate scene, and it's ok to absolutely despise the other player and hope that he trips over his grandmother and breaks his wrist and never plays again loses so embarrassingly that he wants to shrink away into the darkness. And if he beats my favorite player? You're damn right I'm going to call him a skilless fucking newbie who wins by doing stupid shit and berate the piss out of him.

Because I care.


Signed in just to say you nailed it. Anyone claiming that "we are above that" is just being pretentious. I will continue to be passionate about the players I enjoy watching because that's what makes it interesting to me.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
November 05 2011 13:50 GMT
#3063
On November 05 2011 22:32 Vaeila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 22:15 Asha` wrote:
On November 05 2011 22:08 Vaeila wrote:
On November 05 2011 21:56 zeMoose wrote:
On November 05 2011 21:55 Alpina wrote:
so one more hour until finals?


Yeah, one hour.

And gz elfi. Well deserved third place. Let the haters hate.


Hi Finland, no when you look at the player line-up for this tournament he does not deserve third place.

In my opinion its the silly tournament format that is the cause of this so yeah, hate the format not Elfi


This is fucking moronic.

Man, why bother even playing a tournament when you can just look at the player line up to determine who wins.

Damn that silly 8 player standard bracket format with a bo5 minimum each round.


An 8 player tournament without dub. elim is indeed moronic


No it's not? It's an invitational lol, I'd agree if they'd had to actually qualify to be here.
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
November 05 2011 13:50 GMT
#3064
On November 05 2011 22:47 Bromazepam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 22:26 murphs wrote:
Idra is a banned word in the chat, kind of odd heh.


It's a remnant of the bad blood that used to be there between Idra and TB.
Twitch is being Twitch and, despite several attempts, the word keeps popping up in the censored list.

So we shall call him "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named".
GamerX
Profile Joined August 2011
33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 13:51:01
November 05 2011 13:50 GMT
#3065
On November 05 2011 22:43 sereniity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 22:34 GamerX wrote:
On November 05 2011 22:26 murphs wrote:
Idra is a banned word in the chat, kind of odd heh.


He always whines about IdrA RQ'ng on reddit. That's understandable.
2GD is also in the autoban list by TB. That was yesterday, not sure if he whitelisted it.


why is 2GD on autoban O.o?


probably because of Dreamhack. TB's like Milkis but never leaves.

Anyway whatever...go IdrA! <3
Twelve12
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia268 Posts
November 05 2011 13:51 GMT
#3066
On November 05 2011 22:44 Vaeila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 22:43 sereniity wrote:
On November 05 2011 22:34 GamerX wrote:
On November 05 2011 22:26 murphs wrote:
Idra is a banned word in the chat, kind of odd heh.


He always whines about IdrA RQ'ng on reddit. That's understandable.
2GD is also in the autoban list by TB. That was yesterday, not sure if he whitelisted it.


why is 2GD on autoban O.o?




<3 aerowalk, one of my best maps
straightupbeaches
Profile Joined October 2011
2 Posts
November 05 2011 13:52 GMT
#3067
On November 05 2011 22:42 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 22:39 straightupbeaches wrote:
Was there a LR for the top4 games? I slept in...

Idra FIGHTING


not really. you didn't miss a great deal.

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 22:41 Allwars wrote:
How much time until finals start? I'm very confused because of timezones.


20 minutes


Could I get a quick recap then please? Thanks
soupchicken
Profile Joined October 2010
United States322 Posts
November 05 2011 13:53 GMT
#3068
On November 05 2011 22:34 SinCitta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 22:27 nick1689 wrote:
On November 05 2011 22:10 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Am I really the only one who thinks ESPORTS needs this deep rooted enmity of certain players to help fuel it's life cycle?

Seriously - how many people would really care and be passionate about baseball if it wasn't for rivalries like the Yankees-Red Sox, or the Cubs-White Sox? These are a deep-rooted part of the history of baseball. In the NBA, it's the Celtics and the Lakers, or the Celtics and the Knicks. You love one, you absolutely despise the other.

These add extra meaning to games that would otherwise be just simple somewhat meaningless matchups between two foes, games that hold little meaning in the grand scheme of things but now take on extra meaning in terms of the loyal fanbase.

Without the fans, these sports (and, by the same token, ESPORTS) become meaningless and diminish. Baseball fans aren't going to watch 162 games a year. NBA fans probably don't mostly watch 82 games a year. And I know I don't have time to watch every time IdrA plays. But god damn, if I know he's playing someone where there's pride on the line (CrunCher, for example), I will devour that match. Rivalries like this build a bigger, more passionate scene, and it's ok to absolutely despise the other player and hope that he trips over his grandmother and breaks his wrist and never plays again loses so embarrassingly that he wants to shrink away into the darkness. And if he beats my favorite player? You're damn right I'm going to call him a skilless fucking newbie who wins by doing stupid shit and berate the piss out of him.

Because I care.


quoted for truth. I agree


But would you visit a forum that has fanatical fans from both teams bashing each other? Probably not, nothing good comes out of it. It might be funny at first, and feels pretty childlish very fast. In real life/barcraft/whatever this might be rivalry in all fun, because there are limits in normal human social interaction, but forums rarely have such thing.

Edit: Also, in real sports, despite rivalries there is some form of deep respect for the skill of the opposing team, although this if of course not acknowledged. Otherwise, rivalries somewhat lose their "flavor".


You are implying that sports forums are not full of trolling and team/player hating; in fact I have not been to any general (not team-specific) forum that isn't full of the stuff. It's all part of the fun.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
November 05 2011 13:54 GMT
#3069
On November 05 2011 22:50 GamerX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 22:43 sereniity wrote:
On November 05 2011 22:34 GamerX wrote:
On November 05 2011 22:26 murphs wrote:
Idra is a banned word in the chat, kind of odd heh.


He always whines about IdrA RQ'ng on reddit. That's understandable.
2GD is also in the autoban list by TB. That was yesterday, not sure if he whitelisted it.


why is 2GD on autoban O.o?


probably because of Dreamhack. TB's like Milkis but never leaves.

Anyway whatever...go IdrA! <3
Wait, what?
#freeshauni
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 13:55:51
November 05 2011 13:54 GMT
#3070
On November 05 2011 22:10 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Am I really the only one who thinks ESPORTS needs this deep rooted enmity of certain players to help fuel it's life cycle?

Seriously - how many people would really care and be passionate about baseball if it wasn't for rivalries like the Yankees-Red Sox, or the Cubs-White Sox? These are a deep-rooted part of the history of baseball. In the NBA, it's the Celtics and the Lakers, or the Celtics and the Knicks. You love one, you absolutely despise the other.

These add extra meaning to games that would otherwise be just simple somewhat meaningless matchups between two foes, games that hold little meaning in the grand scheme of things but now take on extra meaning in terms of the loyal fanbase.

Without the fans, these sports (and, by the same token, ESPORTS) become meaningless and diminish. Baseball fans aren't going to watch 162 games a year. NBA fans probably don't mostly watch 82 games a year. And I know I don't have time to watch every time IdrA plays. But god damn, if I know he's playing someone where there's pride on the line (CrunCher, for example), I will devour that match. Rivalries like this build a bigger, more passionate scene, and it's ok to absolutely despise the other player and hope that he trips over his grandmother and breaks his wrist and never plays again loses so embarrassingly that he wants to shrink away into the darkness. And if he beats my favorite player? You're damn right I'm going to call him a skilless fucking newbie who wins by doing stupid shit and berate the piss out of him.

Because I care.


Must quote this post again because I agree completely. Part of the fun of watching sc2, especially in these LR threads, is fans having stupid arguments about why their player is better than the other one, or how he shouldn't have lost because of this obvious reason, etc. Its harmless banter of the kind common among fans watching any sporting contest.

The whole racial bias thing only serves to fuel this, I don't see why its a problem.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
November 05 2011 13:55 GMT
#3071
On November 05 2011 22:52 straightupbeaches wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 22:42 sixfour wrote:
On November 05 2011 22:39 straightupbeaches wrote:
Was there a LR for the top4 games? I slept in...

Idra FIGHTING


not really. you didn't miss a great deal.

On November 05 2011 22:41 Allwars wrote:
How much time until finals start? I'm very confused because of timezones.


20 minutes


Could I get a quick recap then please? Thanks


i didn't see the elfi/select series, apparently the first three games were poor and the 4th was a decent macro game

idra/white-ra was idra smacking white-ra about something silly the first two games, third was decent enough but white-ra could never really gain a decisive edge and didn't have too many good engagements, allowing idra to deny mining and starve him out. someone else can elaborate further if they want but there wasn't good games to speak about
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
November 05 2011 13:56 GMT
#3072
On November 05 2011 22:44 Vaeila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 22:43 sereniity wrote:
On November 05 2011 22:34 GamerX wrote:
On November 05 2011 22:26 murphs wrote:
Idra is a banned word in the chat, kind of odd heh.


He always whines about IdrA RQ'ng on reddit. That's understandable.
2GD is also in the autoban list by TB. That was yesterday, not sure if he whitelisted it.


why is 2GD on autoban O.o?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQvTyvVX_ys


Lol I thought I heard 2GD say "Fuck Total Biscuit" lol

It's funny too cause I watch IdrAs stream and he said he doesn't like TB
Never GG MKP | IdrA
Bromazepam
Profile Joined August 2011
820 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 13:58:44
November 05 2011 13:57 GMT
#3073
On November 05 2011 22:53 soupchicken wrote:

You are implying that sports forums are not full of trolling and team/player hating; in fact I have not been to any general (not team-specific) forum that isn't full of the stuff. It's all part of the fun.


Part of the fun? A bunch of mindless people spewing out pointless insults? Where is the fun in that?

You guys want to make SC2 become more about this drama shit rather than about the game.
This is why every time there is a tournament the banned thread grows 10 pages.

You should do like that thread and grow up.
Saying that something is killing esports is killing esports.
MuK_x
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
743 Posts
November 05 2011 13:58 GMT
#3074
i missed all matches

Grandpa Toss
IdrA "TT1 actually fucked up and didn't see the hatchery,so im at a really big advantage right now,assuming he reacts intelligently which is not something you should assume with TT1"
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
November 05 2011 13:59 GMT
#3075
On November 05 2011 22:57 Bromazepam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 22:53 soupchicken wrote:

You are implying that sports forums are not full of trolling and team/player hating; in fact I have not been to any general (not team-specific) forum that isn't full of the stuff. It's all part of the fun.


Part of the fun? A bunch of mindless people spewing out pointless insults? Where is the fun in that?


if everyone is somewhat grown up and well mannered then some trolling can be amusing. if it crosses the line into offensive/childish/whatever then that's when it'd become a problem
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
ambrosiaa
Profile Joined October 2011
Singapore333 Posts
November 05 2011 13:59 GMT
#3076
What time is the finals starting?
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
November 05 2011 13:59 GMT
#3077
Man the Asus Tytan Gaming Desktop commercial is pretty great. I dig their epic music.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
November 05 2011 14:00 GMT
#3078
On November 05 2011 22:59 ambrosiaa wrote:
What time is the finals starting?


faster than two shakes of a lamb's tail
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 05 2011 14:00 GMT
#3079
On November 05 2011 22:59 ambrosiaa wrote:
What time is the finals starting?


Now! :D
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
November 05 2011 14:00 GMT
#3080
On November 05 2011 22:57 Bromazepam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 22:53 soupchicken wrote:

You are implying that sports forums are not full of trolling and team/player hating; in fact I have not been to any general (not team-specific) forum that isn't full of the stuff. It's all part of the fun.


Part of the fun? A bunch of mindless people spewing out pointless insults? Where is the fun in that?

You guys want to make SC2 become more about this drama shit rather than about the game.
This is why every time there is a tournament the banned thread grows 10 pages.

You should do like that thread and grow up.


The meta game is interesting. But it changes slowly.

So there are alot of games that are just standard, and not very interesting. Loving and Hating players gets you through those boring games and it makes those games where there are big metagame shifts even better.
Prev 1 152 153 154 155 156 243 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 20m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 4347
Rain 3221
Jaedong 496
firebathero 321
BeSt 292
Stork 185
Hyuk 172
Mini 162
Snow 146
Leta 144
[ Show more ]
Light 139
Rush 124
ToSsGirL 101
ZerO 81
Soulkey 75
Mind 68
Pusan 56
soO 52
PianO 51
Soma 50
Killer 36
Creator 31
Bale 27
Terrorterran 24
Classic 23
Noble 22
Sharp 22
sorry 18
Hm[arnc] 17
Movie 12
yabsab 10
hero 8
Dota 2
ODPixel537
League of Legends
JimRising 383
Reynor137
Counter-Strike
fl0m3993
olofmeister733
Other Games
ceh9491
Pyrionflax205
crisheroes192
dupreeh189
Mew2King84
ZerO(Twitch)9
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick386
Counter-Strike
PGL321
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 7
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• killerbeecast7
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2333
League of Legends
• Stunt653
Other Games
• WagamamaTV78
Upcoming Events
Patches Events
2h 20m
PiGosaur Cup
14h 20m
Kung Fu Cup
1d
Replay Cast
1d 12h
The PondCast
1d 23h
KCM Race Survival
1d 23h
OSC
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
IPSL
4 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
[ Show More ]
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-02
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.