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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12627 Posts
September 27 2011 10:27 GMT
#861
On September 27 2011 19:24 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 19:23 ETisME wrote:
On September 27 2011 19:21 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On September 27 2011 19:19 Alric wrote:
Also you see the strength of terran. He was down to 7 scvs, but no matter.

...
Yeah Im sorry, I forget, zerg should be able to trade his entire army for scvs and still defend against the counter attack without losing anything.

Actually, if July had just made like 20 banelings instead of suiciding all lings....... he would have been able to do just that. My bad, its actually his fault.

--;

july still had 27 drones even after losing all those...and mules still let terran get back into the game easier than any other race


So what he had more drones, He had no Army to defend.

july defended by losing 40ish drones. he was still about 15 drones ahead after losing that many.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
September 27 2011 10:27 GMT
#862
On September 27 2011 19:23 SuperFanBoy wrote:
the problem is marines with medivacs hardcounter every single zerg unit that isn't baneling or infestor.

Yes, which is why I thought it was baffling why he didn't instantly remake baneling nest or got infestor tech - he knew that was all that was coming, since all the scv's were gone and then it's just mules mining minerals - not gas. So it's obvious a marine medivac followup is the only possible answer.

Yeah, all good ZvT fights last 5 seconds - either you hit with banes or fungals, and win, or you don't, and lose. You can't fight marines with medivacs with just pure target dmg, you need the splash and instant kill.

Ganzi played bad, but I think July played equally bad. I would rather have seen him kill the push, than trade for it. And I would rather have him instantly remake baneling nest after it was dead.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
September 27 2011 10:27 GMT
#863
Tuned in to find out that Ganzi has qualified

Fighting!!!
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 27 2011 10:27 GMT
#864
Double stargate yeah ! Good build.
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
September 27 2011 10:27 GMT
#865
On September 27 2011 19:26 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 19:25 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 27 2011 19:24 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 27 2011 19:23 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 27 2011 19:22 Demonace34 wrote:
(Z)LosirA <Dual Sight> (P)HongUn

Hongun spawns at 8, Losira spawns at 2.

2:40
Forge FE coming from Hongun, Losira going for pool into hatch.

3:30 Hatch and nexus go down around the same time. Gate and cannon coming up for Hongun along with 2 gases.

5:00 Early 3rd hatch going down for Losira. Cyber core finishing up and WG gets started soon after.

6:20 Double stargate goes down for Hongun along with 2 more gases. Metabolic boost and roach warren coming from Losira.
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Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
September 27 2011 10:27 GMT
#866
On September 27 2011 19:25 Telcontar wrote:
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On September 27 2011 19:23 Deshkar wrote:
On September 27 2011 19:22 Supamang wrote:
On September 27 2011 19:21 Emnjay808 wrote:
On September 27 2011 19:20 stevorino wrote:
On September 27 2011 19:18 simansh wrote:
On September 27 2011 19:17 Hassybaby wrote:
A perfect example of a player taking a massive lead, then throwing everything away


A perfect example of why mules are good.


a perfect example why you dont make mutas against mass marines. and then waste them.


second time saying this: baneling nest was destroyed.

ohhhh, nm then i guess i missed that. when did the baneling nest die?


The baneling nest was part of the nat's wall-off, it was destroyed quite early during the push.

Again not true. Ganzi sniped the evolution chamber but didn't actually get the nest just before July pulled his drones. He had plenty of time to make lings & blings.


Naw wasn't saying he had no time to make blings, he definitely had time to do so, I felt July attacked way too prematurely. i didn't understand why he kept making so many mutas w/o blings/slings against mass rines-____-;;;

It seems he felt compelled to throw everything he had, the very second, he saw the terran sets up at his base.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
September 27 2011 10:27 GMT
#867
On September 27 2011 19:23 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 19:21 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On September 27 2011 19:19 Alric wrote:
Also you see the strength of terran. He was down to 7 scvs, but no matter.

...
Yeah Im sorry, I forget, zerg should be able to trade his entire army for scvs and still defend against the counter attack without losing anything.

Actually, if July had just made like 20 banelings instead of suiciding all lings....... he would have been able to do just that. My bad, its actually his fault.

--;

july still had 27 drones even after losing all those...and mules still let terran get back into the game easier than any other race


Maybe you should rephrase that:
If Terran still has OC's, he is still in the game.

Now let us replace a few words:
If Zerg still has Hatcheries, he is still in the game
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
September 27 2011 10:28 GMT
#868
On September 27 2011 19:22 Miragee wrote:
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On September 27 2011 19:21 Hassybaby wrote:
On September 27 2011 19:20 sitromit wrote:
On September 27 2011 19:17 Hassybaby wrote:
A perfect example of a player taking a massive lead, then throwing everything away


Somehow that seems to happen a lot in ZvT...


And then people call Terran Op because its fun to ignore mistakes and blame balance


Because GanZi played perfectly and did no mistakes right?


Because July made more mistakes
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FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
September 27 2011 10:28 GMT
#869
2 Stargate for Hongun, pulling his favourite starts
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 10:28:54
September 27 2011 10:28 GMT
#870
On September 27 2011 19:26 fant0m wrote:
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On September 27 2011 19:23 SuperFanBoy wrote:
he had to make baneling next as a wall off, because of the fear of hellions.. he lost his baneling nest which cost him the game, you can call him an idiot for not making 2 baneling nests if u want, the problem is marines with medivacs hardcounter every single zerg unit that isn't baneling or infestor.


No he didn't HAVE to make the bane nest there. You absolutely don't NEED that building there. Point me to a game where ANY OTHER korean zerg has EVER used a baneling nest like that to wall off against hellions..

Coca did it and lost to a bunch of marines because of that :p

BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
September 27 2011 10:28 GMT
#871
On September 27 2011 19:26 yandere991 wrote:
Just curious, why do baneling nests get used in wall offs?
Seems to me as counter productive as using a templar archive as my wall off.


Zerg don't have to make many buildings compared with the other two races and you can't wall with your pool because you are limited initially by your creep spread. Doesn't leave many other options.
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
September 27 2011 10:28 GMT
#872
On September 27 2011 19:27 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 19:26 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 27 2011 19:25 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 27 2011 19:24 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 27 2011 19:23 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 27 2011 19:22 Demonace34 wrote:
(Z)LosirA <Dual Sight> (P)HongUn

Hongun spawns at 8, Losira spawns at 2.

2:40
Forge FE coming from Hongun, Losira going for pool into hatch.

3:30 Hatch and nexus go down around the same time. Gate and cannon coming up for Hongun along with 2 gases.

5:00 Early 3rd hatch going down for Losira. Cyber core finishing up and WG gets started soon after.

6:20 Double stargate goes down for Hongun along with 2 more gases. Metabolic boost and roach warren coming from Losira.

7:45 Void rays coming from Hongun. Macro hatch going up into the main of losira.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
September 27 2011 10:28 GMT
#873
This 2 stargate void is really popular now. On ladder a lot of tosses go 6 voids and like insta kill everything lol
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
September 27 2011 10:28 GMT
#874
Zerg should just make like 6 queens against hongun, if they defend his early-game attack (queens are amazing against all forms of protoss aggression before robo) they win >_>
Loire
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore1358 Posts
September 27 2011 10:28 GMT
#875
On September 27 2011 19:26 baubo wrote:
Funny analogy by the Chinese announcers on economies of various races.

Terran is like State-owned enterprises. And Protoss/Zerg are like private enterprises. They all can make tons of money. But whenever you run into money problems, it's the State-owned enterprises that can borrow freely from the government. And private enterprises need to restart from the ground up.




hahaha that was kinda funny
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
September 27 2011 10:28 GMT
#876
If HongUn wins on Dual Sight, I will facepalm so hard.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
September 27 2011 10:28 GMT
#877
On September 27 2011 19:25 Fubi wrote:
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On September 27 2011 19:20 Zaurus wrote:
7 scvs to 28 drones and terran won? It is so hard to believe this. I am a protoss, if I have only 7 probes left, and i chronoboost probes constantly, I can never catch up with zerg. Maybe if July just inject and pump more drones he might have a higher chance of winning.

Because it was only 28drones vs 7 scvs for like 20 seconds (which mules made up for) before Ganzi counter attacked. July had to pull most of his drones to defend that, and lost a lot of them. At the same time, Ganzi was pumping SCVs non-stop from 2 command centers while July had to make units he wasn't making drones.

God, I hate all these zerg-bias analysis. It's like a Terran complaining "omgz 200 vs 200 army, we both went down to 100 vs 100, and then Zerg instant max'd?! imba imba!"


Um no that was the count post counter attack.

It was 60 drones to 7 SCVs before the counter attack.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 27 2011 10:28 GMT
#878
All and all it was pretty funny when non zerg players said "He is made of baws he places baneling nest right there and nothing ill will come of it" 10 pages back.

Never make crucial buildings part of a wall. Bad July.
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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 27 2011 10:28 GMT
#879
On September 27 2011 19:28 FinnGamer wrote:
2 Stargate for Hongun, pulling his favourite starts


Congratulations! You are the first one to actually talk about the game that is happening, in the Live Report thread

/bow
memes are a dish best served dank
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
September 27 2011 10:28 GMT
#880
why am i keep dcing ? anyone have same problem?
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