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On September 27 2011 00:43 Bobster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 00:05 Frankon wrote:On September 26 2011 23:52 Bobster wrote:
Tyler should start easing into more of a coaching role at TL, seeing him struggle like this is painful to watch. I know he was great in BW etc etc, but not everyone can make the transition successfully. He has been a part of one of the strongest teams in the world for a year now and he has basically nothing to show for it in terms of achievements.
He'll be a great asset to assist the other TL members as a coach/mentor type of figure. If TL would tak that stance they would be left with 3-4 players max. And extra P and Z coaches that frankly TL doesnt need. What can Tyler teach Hero about Sc2? No, they'd go from 7 to 6 active players. And it's not only about "teaching" - it's about observing, talking strategy, support and having a knowledgeable "outsider" perspective at hand. Remember Tyler coaching Huk in the finals at Dreamhack? Tyler really looked at ease there, I think he would fit well into that coach/mentor role.
As much as I like Tyler, I would disagree. I remember watching him on stream a few months ago in a PvP that he lost, and he asked how opponent got high ground vision (the opponent had collossi)... that really bothers me because clearly he isn't even paying attention to the game enough.
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When did the free resolution go down from 480 to 360? Pff.
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so whats the deal with tyler? did he just rage quit the last game and people are wondering why?
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tbh whatever the reason i think it's way too unprofessional to quit in the middle of a nasl match
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On September 27 2011 00:05 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2011 23:52 Bobster wrote:
Tyler should start easing into more of a coaching role at TL, seeing him struggle like this is painful to watch. I know he was great in BW etc etc, but not everyone can make the transition successfully. He has been a part of one of the strongest teams in the world for a year now and he has basically nothing to show for it in terms of achievements.
He'll be a great asset to assist the other TL members as a coach/mentor type of figure. If TL would tak that stance they would be left with 3-4 players max. And extra P and Z coaches that frankly TL doesnt need. What can Tyler teach Hero about Sc2? Show nested quote +On September 26 2011 23:45 Olinim wrote:On September 26 2011 14:08 DystopiaX wrote:On September 26 2011 13:43 Imbak333 wrote:On September 26 2011 13:23 DystopiaX wrote:On September 26 2011 13:10 0neder wrote:On September 26 2011 12:47 FrankWalls wrote:On September 26 2011 12:34 Bashion wrote:On September 26 2011 12:32 Maghetti wrote:
Last time I visited Tylers stream he said he "hadn't played in a week" with this coming only a few weeks after he said on state of the game that he was finally practicing hard. I don't know what his issues are but I do not feel he should be allowed to stay in TL anymore if he isn't going to take it seriously and ragequit midway in a NASL series(assuming that is what he did because he didn't even answer his phone). This week he started to stream. Lost the first game to a random zerg. Got mad and simply quit. I feel bad for Tyler. He has good mechanics, lots of creativity and raw talent. Too bad he doesnt take the game serious like other progamers do. i dont think people not taking the game seriously would get that upset about losing Yeah you can, if you have an elitist attitude and think you can somehow cheat the system and get by on raw talent alone. The fact is Tyler could own almost anyone if he practiced half as much as Koreans do. But he doesn't, which is the point. Sc2 doesn't run on raw talent alone, otherwise Stephano would arguably be the SC2 Bonjwa. It also runs on commitment, drive, and practice time, which Tyler has been lacking. Does he have the talent? Yeah. But hypotheticals such as "he would own up IF..." mean nothing, because he didn't. Where did all this Stephano praise come from all of a sudden? I feel like EVERYONE is saying he has the most talent out of any player on earth, but I have no idea why. What has he won? All this hype for him materialized out of nothing, I swear >.> I never said he was the best, just that he had the most talent. And I think he does, because apparently he managed to be a top tier EU player while only practicing 2 hours a day, which is ridiculous. I'm not going as far as other people as to say he's top3 zergs in the world or whatever, just that his practice time to payoff ratio is ridiculous. Correct me if I'm wrong but it's kind of summer. He's probably been practicing full or at least close to fulltime for 2 months. To call him the most talented sc2 player of all because he topped EU ladder, and beat some koreans in an online qualifier, and a couple small online tournaments is just ridiculous I'm sorry. Maybe if he won MLG practicing 2 hours a day. Those small EU online torunaments at some times are more stacked than MLG...
More stacked than MLG? Can you direct me to the online EU tournament where that had Bomber. coca, puma and nada that Stephano won? Thanks.
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Who is the new caster next to gretorp?
I really dont like his voice 
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On September 27 2011 00:14 00Visor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2011 23:45 Olinim wrote:On September 26 2011 14:08 DystopiaX wrote:On September 26 2011 13:43 Imbak333 wrote:On September 26 2011 13:23 DystopiaX wrote:On September 26 2011 13:10 0neder wrote:On September 26 2011 12:47 FrankWalls wrote:On September 26 2011 12:34 Bashion wrote:On September 26 2011 12:32 Maghetti wrote:
Last time I visited Tylers stream he said he "hadn't played in a week" with this coming only a few weeks after he said on state of the game that he was finally practicing hard. I don't know what his issues are but I do not feel he should be allowed to stay in TL anymore if he isn't going to take it seriously and ragequit midway in a NASL series(assuming that is what he did because he didn't even answer his phone). This week he started to stream. Lost the first game to a random zerg. Got mad and simply quit. I feel bad for Tyler. He has good mechanics, lots of creativity and raw talent. Too bad he doesnt take the game serious like other progamers do. i dont think people not taking the game seriously would get that upset about losing Yeah you can, if you have an elitist attitude and think you can somehow cheat the system and get by on raw talent alone. The fact is Tyler could own almost anyone if he practiced half as much as Koreans do. But he doesn't, which is the point. Sc2 doesn't run on raw talent alone, otherwise Stephano would arguably be the SC2 Bonjwa. It also runs on commitment, drive, and practice time, which Tyler has been lacking. Does he have the talent? Yeah. But hypotheticals such as "he would own up IF..." mean nothing, because he didn't. Where did all this Stephano praise come from all of a sudden? I feel like EVERYONE is saying he has the most talent out of any player on earth, but I have no idea why. What has he won? All this hype for him materialized out of nothing, I swear >.> I never said he was the best, just that he had the most talent. And I think he does, because apparently he managed to be a top tier EU player while only practicing 2 hours a day, which is ridiculous. I'm not going as far as other people as to say he's top3 zergs in the world or whatever, just that his practice time to payoff ratio is ridiculous. Correct me if I'm wrong but it's kind of summer. He's probably been practicing full or at least close to fulltime for 2 months. To call him the most talented sc2 player of all because he topped EU ladder, and beat some koreans in an online qualifier, and a couple small online tournaments is just ridiculous I'm sorry. Maybe if he won MLG practicing 2 hours a day. Please follow the european scene more closely, to call that ridiculous. The online tournaments he won weren`t small and against the top of the european scene. Just yesterday he won 500 pounds at the Dignitas Invitational beating Kas, Socke and ToD. In LAN environment he beat Huk, Sen, took a game of Puma. And that was some months ago. And when people state that he has the most talent, its their opinion. Talent means, he will win something big, not that he already did it.
500 pounds in a 1 day online invitational is a small tournament. Nothing you listed there screams "OMG MOST TALENTED SC2 PLAYER EVER" especially since you don't know his practice schedule this summer. And of course that's their opinion...this is mine, you realize we are on a forum, typically where people express their opinions. Don't know why you had to randomly tell me that.
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On September 27 2011 02:36 graNite wrote:Who is the new caster next to gretorp? I really dont like his voice
Orb or EG.LZ_Gamer... one of those 
(They sound similar too.)
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I feel like this guy commentating Puma v TLO is trying to have sex with me. It's working.
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a handful of koreans will win all the big tourneys
everyone else gets money from coaching/sponsors/ads
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On September 26 2011 13:09 0neder wrote:
Yeah, but why would he bother with SC2 if he didn't enjoy practicing it? Especially with a supportive wife and everything, I just don't get what the barrier is.
Maybe his mind, like Greg Fields and maybe others? 
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Yeah, he is NOT lzgamer or orb.
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On September 27 2011 02:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 02:36 graNite wrote:Who is the new caster next to gretorp? I really dont like his voice Orb or EG.LZ_Gamer... one of those (They sound similar too.)
It's not LZGamer and not Orb, the caster reminds me of that chocolate rain dude :p
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Apparently it's thegunrun
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I really enjoyed the whole "this week in Starcraft" segment after the Puma vs TLO match.
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On September 27 2011 03:05 clusen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 02:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On September 27 2011 02:36 graNite wrote:Who is the new caster next to gretorp? I really dont like his voice Orb or EG.LZ_Gamer... one of those (They sound similar too.) It's not LZGamer and not Orb, the caster reminds me of that chocolate rain dude :p
Whoops! Apparently it's thegunrun. My mistake
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On September 27 2011 00:05 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2011 23:52 Bobster wrote:
Tyler should start easing into more of a coaching role at TL, seeing him struggle like this is painful to watch. I know he was great in BW etc etc, but not everyone can make the transition successfully. He has been a part of one of the strongest teams in the world for a year now and he has basically nothing to show for it in terms of achievements.
He'll be a great asset to assist the other TL members as a coach/mentor type of figure. If TL would tak that stance they would be left with 3-4 players max. And extra P and Z coaches that frankly TL doesnt need. What can Tyler teach Hero about Sc2? Show nested quote +On September 26 2011 23:45 Olinim wrote:On September 26 2011 14:08 DystopiaX wrote:On September 26 2011 13:43 Imbak333 wrote:On September 26 2011 13:23 DystopiaX wrote:On September 26 2011 13:10 0neder wrote:On September 26 2011 12:47 FrankWalls wrote:On September 26 2011 12:34 Bashion wrote:On September 26 2011 12:32 Maghetti wrote:
Last time I visited Tylers stream he said he "hadn't played in a week" with this coming only a few weeks after he said on state of the game that he was finally practicing hard. I don't know what his issues are but I do not feel he should be allowed to stay in TL anymore if he isn't going to take it seriously and ragequit midway in a NASL series(assuming that is what he did because he didn't even answer his phone). This week he started to stream. Lost the first game to a random zerg. Got mad and simply quit. I feel bad for Tyler. He has good mechanics, lots of creativity and raw talent. Too bad he doesnt take the game serious like other progamers do. i dont think people not taking the game seriously would get that upset about losing Yeah you can, if you have an elitist attitude and think you can somehow cheat the system and get by on raw talent alone. The fact is Tyler could own almost anyone if he practiced half as much as Koreans do. But he doesn't, which is the point. Sc2 doesn't run on raw talent alone, otherwise Stephano would arguably be the SC2 Bonjwa. It also runs on commitment, drive, and practice time, which Tyler has been lacking. Does he have the talent? Yeah. But hypotheticals such as "he would own up IF..." mean nothing, because he didn't. Where did all this Stephano praise come from all of a sudden? I feel like EVERYONE is saying he has the most talent out of any player on earth, but I have no idea why. What has he won? All this hype for him materialized out of nothing, I swear >.> I never said he was the best, just that he had the most talent. And I think he does, because apparently he managed to be a top tier EU player while only practicing 2 hours a day, which is ridiculous. I'm not going as far as other people as to say he's top3 zergs in the world or whatever, just that his practice time to payoff ratio is ridiculous. Correct me if I'm wrong but it's kind of summer. He's probably been practicing full or at least close to fulltime for 2 months. To call him the most talented sc2 player of all because he topped EU ladder, and beat some koreans in an online qualifier, and a couple small online tournaments is just ridiculous I'm sorry. Maybe if he won MLG practicing 2 hours a day. Those small EU online torunaments at some times are more stacked than MLG...
Lol no... maybe if IMMVP showed up on those you'd have a point...
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I would really like to know what Tyler himself is thinking about his situation... where can i ask such a question?
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omg Dimaga vs HasuObs. what a game
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Noooooooo i missed it when it was on american time and i missed it again now !! :'(
Are NASL games on youtube ?
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