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DreamHack Valencia Invitational LIVE THREAD - Page 502

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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
September 17 2011 21:47 GMT
#10021
I wonder what it is with ThorZaIN's play. He consistently does better against Koreans than most foreigners but doesn't dominate the foreigner scene like you'd think. I'm not saying he does bad against other foreigners, but he can lose to players who get eaten alive by Koreans.
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 21:51:10
September 17 2011 21:49 GMT
#10022

lol this was one of the other videos in the link with those two funny guys (does anyone know what game they are commentating for?)
this 'highlight' of blizzcon is a reminder of how far we have come, and how far we have to go in the RTS world
EDIT: soz wrong vid this is the right one ^^
The opinions expressed by our users do not reflect the official position of TeamLiquid.net or its staff.
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
September 17 2011 21:51 GMT
#10023
On September 18 2011 06:30 DertoQq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:24 whiteLotus wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:23 Fluffeh wrote:
On September 18 2011 01:54 eqez wrote:
On September 18 2011 01:51 thirnaz wrote:
People that whine about how 2GD is as a person with the jokes and everything, dreamhack knew what they were paying for they've had him a lot of times before and imo he is much "nicer" now than what he was when he worked for ESL haha




Always telling Zalmah hes homosexual :D





Omg I lold WAY too hard at this ...


watch this
and lol even more


I lol'd so much : D


omg 2gd )))))))))))))))))
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
September 17 2011 21:53 GMT
#10024
Does anyone know whether VODs or replays will be uploaded? I caught the last few games of the final. Too bad w/ Thorzain's mistake/indecisiveness (I'm blaming Artosis here and his motto, "get further ahead") cause he could have easily marched into DRG's territory. DRG had almost no unit to defend that many marines and tanks.

Instead he decided to turn around in the middle of creep and lost every single unit on the retreat. Ugh. But the series was a real treat. I originally expected 3-0 or 3-1, but Thorzain showed some amazing skills. And congrats to DRG.

Anyway, can someone post links to VODs or replays if there is any?
Roberi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden347 Posts
September 17 2011 21:53 GMT
#10025
Thanks for an incredibly well-produced tournament! The small things such as the overlays, graphics, player cameras, sound and picture quality were really spot on! Loved the casters and hosts as well(except maybe for 2GD's not-so-classy comments). It really felt cohesive and well planned. The games were frikkin amazing. Look forward to more awesome stuff from the Dreamhack crew!
A fan of ThorZaIN, MorroW, NaNiwa and SaSe. Sweden Fighting! /// @rob_eri
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
September 17 2011 21:54 GMT
#10026
On September 18 2011 06:47 hugman wrote:
I wonder what it is with ThorZaIN's play. He consistently does better against Koreans than most foreigners but doesn't dominate the foreigner scene like you'd think. I'm not saying he does bad against other foreigners, but he can lose to players who get eaten alive by Koreans.


dno what u talk about.
Back before he went to korea, he was one of the top players, but not the number 1 or so. and he did farely well: Ok showings in Homestory+MLG, #3 blizzcon invitational, TSL win.
Since he as in korea, he didnt attend to any foreign tournemnt till now - and he dominated in performance compared to other foreigners pretty much.
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
September 17 2011 21:54 GMT
#10027
Just got home from BarCraft! It was awesome! TLO, Morrow, Haypro and Kellymilkies were all there. Sooo many great games and I was probably the only one rooting for DRG, hahaha. My friend managed to win the Starcraft quiz too (with my answers) so he walked away with the full Razer SC2 set! He picked it instead of a TLO signed copy of SC2 right in front of TLO, LOL. I did snag the headphones though! GSL look here I come.

DHI delivers yet again. Fucking awesome.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
September 17 2011 21:57 GMT
#10028
Tournament was freaking awesome. 2GD was hilarious. TB and Apollo were freaking amazing as usual. GOM needs to get those two over in Korea IMO.
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
dreamhackTV
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden10 Posts
September 17 2011 21:58 GMT
#10029
Hey guys, VODs slowly popping up on http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacktv/videos

Thanks for watching and sorry for all the lag issues some of you have had out there. We are working hard with Twitch to completely iron them out by the time Dreamhack Winter is here. Promise!
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
September 17 2011 22:01 GMT
#10030
tnx for vods.. will watch soon.. totally missed this! great job though thorzain, I was rooting for you!

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
September 17 2011 22:03 GMT
#10031
On September 18 2011 06:54 vrok wrote:
Just got home from BarCraft! It was awesome! TLO, Morrow, Haypro and Kellymilkies were all there. Sooo many great games and I was probably the only one rooting for DRG, hahaha. My friend managed to win the Starcraft quiz too (with my answers) so he walked away with the full Razer SC2 set! He picked it instead of a TLO signed copy of SC2 right in front of TLO, LOL. I did snag the headphones though! GSL look here I come.

DHI delivers yet again. Fucking awesome.


Oh man, it would have been so awesome to be there. Me a bit jelly.
But what is Kelly doing there/here in Sweden?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
September 17 2011 22:05 GMT
#10032
On September 18 2011 06:47 hugman wrote:
I wonder what it is with ThorZaIN's play. He consistently does better against Koreans than most foreigners but doesn't dominate the foreigner scene like you'd think. I'm not saying he does bad against other foreigners, but he can lose to players who get eaten alive by Koreans.


His record isn't really particularly good versus Koreans though. He does better than guys like Kas, Happy, Strelok and BratOK because he's flat out better than them, but not so much better he can dominate them.

The best foreigners like Naniwa and Thorzain occupy the middle ground at a bottom of Code A level where they will generally beat most foreigners but won't dominate them endlessly because they're not Code S level but like all Code A players they can take games from Code S players.

They're about as good as Rain who has a brilliant record since joining Fnatic but is unlikely to win an MLG or a Dreamhack when Korean powerhouses are present.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44357 Posts
September 17 2011 22:07 GMT
#10033
On September 18 2011 06:31 Djagulingu wrote:
Is it 3-1 or 3-2 for DRG?


3-2 DRG
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
September 17 2011 22:07 GMT
#10034
I'm happy about Thorzain's performance BUT... I would've been so fucking ecstatic if Thorzain would have won, I fucking love Thorzain. And I honestly don't think it's about nationality.
I
Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
September 17 2011 22:07 GMT
#10035
wow eg got eliminated early, did not expect that. Too bad they both make more then this tournament with their salaries so they can dgaf.
IMNestea's biggest fan.
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
September 17 2011 22:08 GMT
#10036
I just hope that the success makes DH come again to Spain so I can attend T_T.

Great job!
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
September 17 2011 22:11 GMT
#10037
On September 18 2011 07:05 Blasphemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:47 hugman wrote:
I wonder what it is with ThorZaIN's play. He consistently does better against Koreans than most foreigners but doesn't dominate the foreigner scene like you'd think. I'm not saying he does bad against other foreigners, but he can lose to players who get eaten alive by Koreans.


His record isn't really particularly good versus Koreans though. He does better than guys like Kas, Happy, Strelok and BratOK because he's flat out better than them, but not so much better he can dominate them.

The best foreigners like Naniwa and Thorzain occupy the middle ground at a bottom of Code A level where they will generally beat most foreigners but won't dominate them endlessly because they're not Code S level but like all Code A players they can take games from Code S players.

They're about as good as Rain who has a brilliant record since joining Fnatic but is unlikely to win an MLG or a Dreamhack when Korean powerhouses are present.


The feeling you get when u see Thorzain is that he is not gonna be completely destroyed, even when he loses. He always puts a fight, and sometimes he wins tournaments.

Haven't had that feeling from another foreigner ever.
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
September 17 2011 22:11 GMT
#10038
On September 18 2011 07:07 Gigaudas wrote:
I'm happy about Thorzain's performance BUT... I would've been so fucking ecstatic if Thorzain would have won, I fucking love Thorzain. And I honestly don't think it's about nationality.

Because he's such an unassuming, talented and lovable dude? He's certainly the best non-Korean player in the world. If only he felt that staying in Korea to practise was a good idea.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
September 17 2011 22:12 GMT
#10039
On September 18 2011 07:11 xN.07)MaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 07:05 Blasphemi wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:47 hugman wrote:
I wonder what it is with ThorZaIN's play. He consistently does better against Koreans than most foreigners but doesn't dominate the foreigner scene like you'd think. I'm not saying he does bad against other foreigners, but he can lose to players who get eaten alive by Koreans.


His record isn't really particularly good versus Koreans though. He does better than guys like Kas, Happy, Strelok and BratOK because he's flat out better than them, but not so much better he can dominate them.

The best foreigners like Naniwa and Thorzain occupy the middle ground at a bottom of Code A level where they will generally beat most foreigners but won't dominate them endlessly because they're not Code S level but like all Code A players they can take games from Code S players.

They're about as good as Rain who has a brilliant record since joining Fnatic but is unlikely to win an MLG or a Dreamhack when Korean powerhouses are present.


The feeling you get when u see Thorzain is that he is not gonna be completely destroyed, even when he loses. He always puts a fight, and sometimes he wins tournaments.

Haven't had that feeling from another foreigner ever.


Huk is a legitimate Code S player though and regularly beats mid level Koreans although his results since Homestory have been fairly modest at best.
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
September 17 2011 22:14 GMT
#10040
On September 18 2011 07:11 tyCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 07:07 Gigaudas wrote:
I'm happy about Thorzain's performance BUT... I would've been so fucking ecstatic if Thorzain would have won, I fucking love Thorzain. And I honestly don't think it's about nationality.

Because he's such an unassuming, talented and lovable dude? He's certainly the best non-Korean player in the world. If only he felt that staying in Korea to practise was a good idea.


Huk is still the best non Korean player. Don't really see how that can be argued. He's Code S, has three major foreign tournament wins (even if his first MLG is pretty old now) and was the best foreigner at both of the last two MLG's.
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