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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9121
On September 18 2011 05:39 Acadea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 05:37 dsousa wrote:
3/3 marines needs a nerf. How many zerglings does it take to kill 8 3/3 marines with a medivac?



This is unnecessary in this thread. The zerglings engaged in a very inefficient manner without surround. I don't know what the upgrade on the zerglings were, but even if they were 3/3, that engagement was very poorly done.

They were either 1/1 or 2/1.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9122
I will say now that even if thorzain loses, the finals were still awesome and he surely made DRG crumble.

But Thorzaing, go for the gold.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9123
Yeah that baneling bust was a bad idea and kind of where he started falling behind. DRG is good but is beatable. I think nestea is still a lot better.
Hephaistas
Profile Joined May 2011
233 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9124
Nestea wouldn't drop games to thorzain lol
DRG pretty overrated in that regard.

Very awesome games though
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9125
Oh no cross position metal
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9126
On September 18 2011 05:39 MaderA wrote:
People are actually whining after that epic game. ;__;
DRG threw away that game by running away from 5 marines when he had 23 mutas. Just that Thorzain was really good, managing to squeeze out everything like that.
#freeshauni
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9127
Reason for GG:

his meele upgrades were bad cause of constant pressure. No hive-units in the near future as well. his 3 first bases were about to mine out, there was a drop at his hidden base he couldnt defend, while thorzain had 3-3 marines up and mining comfortably, even with the dmg done by DRG.
he was more or less allin with his attack at the 2nd thorzain goldbase.
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9128
On September 18 2011 05:38 tomatriedes wrote:
DRG just lost patience in that game. There was no need for that baneling bust attempt. He should have just tried to keep him pinned on two bases for as long as possible.


I think this is a big testament to a weakness of DRG. T-Zain's really calm and patient style seems to tilt him a bit. In both losses he made pretty bad decisions while Thorzain just constricted him into death.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9129
On September 18 2011 05:39 Hassybaby wrote:
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On September 18 2011 05:38 KimJongChill wrote:
Anyone else really annoyed that they used ladder version Antiga.....>_>


Nope, because that game was still amazing


Yeah, I guess, but it diminishes the win when gsl deemd it imbalanced and removed it. MLG version forces cross spawn too oh well, at least the game was okay.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9130
OK first two games were lackluster from Thorzain, but this last one was sick.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 20:40:31
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9131
On September 18 2011 05:37 Keyz1 wrote:
If you haven't noticed, DRG is always on a losing edge because of map abuse.

Tal'Darim altar on those spawns can really screw up your natural mining completely w/ a contain.

Antiga Shipyard makes it almost impossible for a zerg to secure a 4th and 5th base sometimes vs good Terrans.

I can guarantee Thorzain wouldn't of won 2 games if the spawns were different, or even if it was a different map. No jokes, in all seriousness, it's true.

I find it amazing that you would "know" such a thing.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9132
On September 18 2011 05:39 ZaaaaaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 05:37 dsousa wrote:
3/3 marines needs a nerf. How many zerglings does it take to kill 8 3/3 marines with a medivac?


Dont wanna get too offtopic but yea, 3-3 marines are so sick;p


Now only we need a sick last game, and then this tourney was one of the sickest to date.

Thorzain finals are so good
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splatter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden16 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9133
i have been such a fan since watching him in the qualifier to tsl3 gogo thorazain!
chrisv10
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark65 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9134
Spoon terran fighting!
Philo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States337 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9135
Oh damn I forgot Slashers hair was on the line. Here i thought this couldn't be any more tense.
Other people do 24 hour streams. I just let GoOdy play a Bo11 TvT. - Special Endrey
leungwk01
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1260 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9136
Didn't thorzain say he didn't (or hardly) improved in korea?

sure...
R3N
Profile Joined March 2011
740 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9137
DRG needs to abuse infestors before the nerf :D
this ling-muta heavy play, while he's the best in the world at it, doesn't always work.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9138
On September 18 2011 05:37 DoomsVille wrote:
USA USA USA USA !!!!

lolol can't wait til a swede sees that xD
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9139
On September 18 2011 05:38 vincom2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 05:37 Nachor wrote:
Dongraegu to cocky here

He had the game but for some reason decided to force his win.
If he just sat back, took the gold and got upgrades instead of this stupid baneling bust he would have won for sure.

Btw:

Did it occur to nobody that this is the starting position GSL banned because of Gisado said it was imbalanced in favor of Terran taking the gold?

Just saying

Had no idea GSL banned a certain starting position on antiga :o


If I recall its because a terran can siege on the edge on his 3d and hit the extractor for the top left main
lorgoth
Profile Joined March 2010
161 Posts
September 17 2011 20:40 GMT
#9140
On September 18 2011 05:39 Acadea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 05:37 dsousa wrote:
3/3 marines needs a nerf. How many zerglings does it take to kill 8 3/3 marines with a medivac?



This is unnecessary in this thread. The zerglings engaged in a very inefficient manner without surround. I don't know what the upgrade on the zerglings were, but even if they were 3/3, that engagement was very poorly done.


Problem is that it cant be done better
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