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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 08 2011 14:21 GMT
#3101
On September 08 2011 22:47 Jakkerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 22:46 MrKn4rz wrote:
I remember a time when Zergs were complaining about Balance and all the Protoss Fans complained about Zergs complaining.

Who's complaining now?


And who got buffed hard back then?

Infestors are cool amirite?

Don't pretend the metagame didn't change drastically over the past few months even without the infestor. Quick 3rd hatch against FE builds, roach ling timings, etc. All those are much more important than the infestor at GSL level.
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
September 08 2011 14:23 GMT
#3102
On September 08 2011 22:54 MrKn4rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 22:50 dtz wrote:
On September 08 2011 22:46 MrKn4rz wrote:
I remember a time when Zergs were complaining about Balance and all the Protoss Fans complained about Zergs complaining.

Who's complaining now?


I think the severity of the problem is that i've seen a lot of TL mods and banlings "complained" about how terrible Protoss is having it at the moment especially against 1-1-1. No one will deny that.
(Unless i misinterpreted those comments then i apologize)

That, and there is a somewhat balance-centered article about Protoss in the Featured news in TeamLiquid front page shows how bad the perception is. PvT is 35.7 percent in code S and 38.5 in code A excluding Up and Down which will drag the numbers down even more. That's kinda bad.

I still think IdrA is right. They are playing just terrible is part of the problem. Note that I think he is playing terrible too at the moment.

I can assure you that if Artosis hadn't convinced IdrA to play Zerg instead of Protoss he would call anyone who made that claim a retard.

He can't bring himself to admit that, despite his constant whining, protoss isn't OP. Because that is the only excuse he has for his awful ZvP.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
September 08 2011 14:24 GMT
#3103
Weee, back to GomTvTvTvTvTvTvT.....
the throws never bothered me anyway
ozdod
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia65 Posts
September 08 2011 14:24 GMT
#3104
On September 08 2011 23:17 Elvedeta wrote:
People shouldn't be bashing on MKP, he played to win like all the other's but like many people here, I felt sad about it because the games are bad when terran 1/1/1 and it took the spot for code S away from JYP which probably deserved more than MKP. If the games were long macro games, and mkp won people wouldn't be complaining but MKP probably thought why should I risk losing in a macro game if I can all-in and have a higher chance of winning?
It sucks but don't bash on the player, its not there job to balance the game.


i guess i missed the scv parade in that all-in
Striding Strider
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom787 Posts
September 08 2011 14:25 GMT
#3105
On September 08 2011 23:24 peidongyang wrote:
Weee, back to GomTvTvTvTvTvTvT.....


This.
I have a beard. I'm unprofessional.
BoomNasty
Profile Joined June 2011
United States265 Posts
September 08 2011 14:29 GMT
#3106
So excited to watch TvT's.....
I like..
ShiFTy_
Profile Joined July 2011
30 Posts
September 08 2011 14:36 GMT
#3107
On September 08 2011 23:04 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 23:00 luke3920 wrote:
JYP showed some great play, and its truely sad to see that he still goes down to code A. The weakness of Protoss atm was summarised pretty well by this turn of events...


Yup but that is why im so looking forward to patch 1.4.
People really underestimate the importance of a small change like 1 range increase for immortals and sentry guardian shield removing the damage of tanks.
Let say the immortal jyp used to backstab had 1 extra range today. It would have attacked earlier while the tanks were still unsieging, getting 2 or more extra shots. This will cascade down to less damage and the immortal would have taken down all the tanks by itself.
The guardian shield damage is no joke too. 40% off right? So if a tank shot hits 5 zealots, thats a LOT less damage compared to 3 - 4 tanks 1 hitting 5 zealots right off from the start.


where on earth did you get 40% from
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 08 2011 14:37 GMT
#3108
On September 08 2011 23:36 ShiFTy_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 23:04 poorcloud wrote:
On September 08 2011 23:00 luke3920 wrote:
JYP showed some great play, and its truely sad to see that he still goes down to code A. The weakness of Protoss atm was summarised pretty well by this turn of events...


Yup but that is why im so looking forward to patch 1.4.
People really underestimate the importance of a small change like 1 range increase for immortals and sentry guardian shield removing the damage of tanks.
Let say the immortal jyp used to backstab had 1 extra range today. It would have attacked earlier while the tanks were still unsieging, getting 2 or more extra shots. This will cascade down to less damage and the immortal would have taken down all the tanks by itself.
The guardian shield damage is no joke too. 40% off right? So if a tank shot hits 5 zealots, thats a LOT less damage compared to 3 - 4 tanks 1 hitting 5 zealots right off from the start.


where on earth did you get 40% from


I think he got a hold on the information that Guardian Shield reduces the damage from 0 attack marines by 40 percent, and then applied it to everything else.
twitch.tv/medrea
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
September 08 2011 14:40 GMT
#3109
What is this CPL tournament some people talking about? Can I get a link to replays or VODs?
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
September 08 2011 14:43 GMT
#3110
On September 08 2011 23:24 peidongyang wrote:
Weee, back to GomTvTvTvTvTvTvT.....

vTvT...
I will rage if the zergs get thrown into the same group, i will rage pretty hard
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 14:48:58
September 08 2011 14:46 GMT
#3111
Lmao Alicia casually calling it the terran league in his tweets, assuming that translation was correct >.>

Lol imagine the nightmare: Group with Mvp, MMA, Nestea, and Losira.
Heres another nightmare: Protoss, any number of terrans ;o
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
September 08 2011 14:46 GMT
#3112
On September 08 2011 23:37 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 23:36 ShiFTy_ wrote:
On September 08 2011 23:04 poorcloud wrote:
On September 08 2011 23:00 luke3920 wrote:
JYP showed some great play, and its truely sad to see that he still goes down to code A. The weakness of Protoss atm was summarised pretty well by this turn of events...


Yup but that is why im so looking forward to patch 1.4.
People really underestimate the importance of a small change like 1 range increase for immortals and sentry guardian shield removing the damage of tanks.
Let say the immortal jyp used to backstab had 1 extra range today. It would have attacked earlier while the tanks were still unsieging, getting 2 or more extra shots. This will cascade down to less damage and the immortal would have taken down all the tanks by itself.
The guardian shield damage is no joke too. 40% off right? So if a tank shot hits 5 zealots, thats a LOT less damage compared to 3 - 4 tanks 1 hitting 5 zealots right off from the start.


where on earth did you get 40% from


I think he got a hold on the information that Guardian Shield reduces the damage from 0 attack marines by 40 percent, and then applied it to everything else.


Oh nah i'm not really sure of the 40% thing. How much damage does guardian shield prevent if the bug is fixed?
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
September 08 2011 14:49 GMT
#3113
On September 08 2011 22:22 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 22:17 Phats wrote:
Wow I've almost watched every single GSL game since season 1 but I don't think I can handle a 20 out of 32 player Terran playerbase for this next seasons code S. That's just ridiculous, do we really have to wait until HotS to get this pro level more racially diverse ?

O well maybe D3 will draw me away until the terran domination ends ><


I find it annoying that the best players keep choosing terran.


Did you ever ask yourself why best players choose terran??
I'll give you a hint, being "best" means they are "smart", and smart man always knows which one is the best.
Its grack
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
September 08 2011 14:49 GMT
#3114
On September 08 2011 22:36 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 22:20 Logros wrote:
On September 08 2011 22:16 Grumbels wrote:
Patch 1.4 will buff protoss a little bit, so they're not without a chance.

I don't see it doing much tbh. 1 more range on immortals isn't suddenly going to chance what's going on in TvP atm.

Try reading the patch notes.

Barracks nerf, warp prism buff, immortal buff, guardian shield buff, blue flame nerf. For protoss there's only a blink nerf that could impact things.


I dont think it will affect the state of 111 much to be honest. The 5 seconds barracks nerf doesnt really affect your output of marines, marines are still as strong and take the same time to build. Warp prism doesnt change much, immortals +1 range helps alot but you still have to walk right in front of marines to target the tanks. Guardian shield now reduces 2 dmg from tanks if I'm right. Tanks do 33, not that much of a difference. We'll see when the patch releases.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 14:51:24
September 08 2011 14:51 GMT
#3115
On September 08 2011 23:49 bokeevboke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 22:22 Adreme wrote:
On September 08 2011 22:17 Phats wrote:
Wow I've almost watched every single GSL game since season 1 but I don't think I can handle a 20 out of 32 player Terran playerbase for this next seasons code S. That's just ridiculous, do we really have to wait until HotS to get this pro level more racially diverse ?

O well maybe D3 will draw me away until the terran domination ends ><


I find it annoying that the best players keep choosing terran.


Did you ever ask yourself why best players choose terran??
I'll give you a hint, being "best" means they are "smart", and smart man always knows which one is the best.


But (P)Smart picked Protoss ¬_¬
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
September 08 2011 14:51 GMT
#3116
On September 08 2011 22:59 Severus_ wrote:
Yeah KONGPrime made it and guess teaja TvP was good after all. I hope next season Noblesse,Keen,aLive,Ensnare,asd and Virus drop out of code S cuz I don't think they are code S level and we have to much T is code S so nobody is gonna miss some medicore dudes. Oz,Hero,Sage,Nani,Sase,Curious,Revival,Lucky I'm looking at you guys and its time to step up your game to show them who is boss and roll the next season up&down.
yea ... ensnare, asd and virus need to get out of codeS asap!!! Unless , unless they can suddenly improve like SanZenith did.

Hate watching mediocre terrans tbh - actually hate watching all mediocre P's / Z's. Good now that tester / kyrix was given the smack down into Code A. Perhaps the code A "cold shower" might wake them up so they practice up to show us some good play again.
Sage, Hero, Revival, Curious fighting!!!
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
September 08 2011 14:53 GMT
#3117
On September 08 2011 23:49 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 22:36 Grumbels wrote:
On September 08 2011 22:20 Logros wrote:
On September 08 2011 22:16 Grumbels wrote:
Patch 1.4 will buff protoss a little bit, so they're not without a chance.

I don't see it doing much tbh. 1 more range on immortals isn't suddenly going to chance what's going on in TvP atm.

Try reading the patch notes.

Barracks nerf, warp prism buff, immortal buff, guardian shield buff, blue flame nerf. For protoss there's only a blink nerf that could impact things.


I dont think it will affect the state of 111 much to be honest. The 5 seconds barracks nerf doesnt really affect your output of marines, marines are still as strong and take the same time to build. Warp prism doesnt change much, immortals +1 range helps alot but you still have to walk right in front of marines to target the tanks. Guardian shield now reduces 2 dmg from tanks if I'm right. Tanks do 33, not that much of a difference. We'll see when the patch releases.
wait brother, let us have patience. We will see in due time whether immortal / warp prism buff will improve Toss fortunes.
***has the patch applied to the Kr server yet? THat's pretty much the only server that matters lol, for changing the top-level metagame anyway
ElusoryX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Singapore2047 Posts
September 08 2011 14:54 GMT
#3118
congrats taeja and mkp!
xd
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
September 08 2011 14:56 GMT
#3119
Hope tester finally starts practicing something other than timing attacks.
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 14:56:41
September 08 2011 14:56 GMT
#3120
On September 08 2011 23:51 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 23:49 bokeevboke wrote:
On September 08 2011 22:22 Adreme wrote:
On September 08 2011 22:17 Phats wrote:
wOw I've almost watched every single GSL game since season 1 but I don't think I can handle a 20 out of 32 player Terran playerbase for this next seasons code S. That's just ridiculous, do we Really have to wait until HotS to get this PrO level more racially diverse ?

O well maybe D3 will draw me away until the terran domination ends ><


I find it annoying that the best players keep choosing terran.


Did you ever ask yourself why best players choose terran??
I'll give you a Hint, being "best" means they are "Smart", and Smart man Always knows Which ONE iS the best.


But Smart picked Protoss ¬_¬

True. And TheBest picked Terran.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
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