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Have fun everyone and enjoy todays games! <3

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icarly
Profile Joined August 2011
United States400 Posts
September 08 2011 14:57 GMT
#3121
Ok so Protoss can't win against Terran or Zerg. Only MMA and MvP can beat Nestea, but the rest of the zergs, besides Dongraegu and Losira who can beat some Terrans, can't beat Terran.

What a hell of a puzzle.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4189 Posts
September 08 2011 14:59 GMT
#3122
On September 08 2011 23:46 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 23:37 Medrea wrote:
On September 08 2011 23:36 ShiFTy_ wrote:
On September 08 2011 23:04 poorcloud wrote:
On September 08 2011 23:00 luke3920 wrote:
JYP showed some great play, and its truely sad to see that he still goes down to code A. The weakness of Protoss atm was summarised pretty well by this turn of events...


Yup but that is why im so looking forward to patch 1.4.
People really underestimate the importance of a small change like 1 range increase for immortals and sentry guardian shield removing the damage of tanks.
Let say the immortal jyp used to backstab had 1 extra range today. It would have attacked earlier while the tanks were still unsieging, getting 2 or more extra shots. This will cascade down to less damage and the immortal would have taken down all the tanks by itself.
The guardian shield damage is no joke too. 40% off right? So if a tank shot hits 5 zealots, thats a LOT less damage compared to 3 - 4 tanks 1 hitting 5 zealots right off from the start.


where on earth did you get 40% from


I think he got a hold on the information that Guardian Shield reduces the damage from 0 attack marines by 40 percent, and then applied it to everything else.


Oh nah i'm not really sure of the 40% thing. How much damage does guardian shield prevent if the bug is fixed?


Guardian shield reduces 2 dmg from ranged attacks if I'm not wrong. And as a person stated earlier theres a bug that prevented it reducing dmg from tanks and colossi. So tanks do 33 to zealots and 48 dmg to stalkers which is pretty irrelevant lol.
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
September 08 2011 15:00 GMT
#3123
I am truly regretful for not being able to watch up/downs anymore due to work schedule. Just by looking at results I can tell that today's games were nothing but epic, with MKP jumping off the surface of the water.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
September 08 2011 15:02 GMT
#3124
I'm so happy for MKP even if that means more TvTvTvTvT's
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
September 08 2011 15:09 GMT
#3125
Well i am glad Taeja and MKP made it. But damn, next GSL will be so painful to watch for me. I am already tired of TvT but there will be even more. T_T
At least HuK is still there fighting for Aiur.
@ggmonx
parad0x0n
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany4 Posts
September 08 2011 15:09 GMT
#3126
I think the problem with protoss is that its the most fragile race right now. Contrary to terrans or zergs a protoss can lose a game by just one inattention. So bad forcefields or something like that ends the game immediately. But this problem cant be fixed in patch so I think we have to wait until HotS comes out and new units will be introduced to balance this...
Magic1264
Profile Joined April 2010
United States60 Posts
September 08 2011 15:11 GMT
#3127
so, with the final up and down results, this makes twenty terran in the code S tourney?

Tastosis better be working on some good material, because, even for a Starcraft tourney geek like me, even I'm going to get sick of TvT this October.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
September 08 2011 15:21 GMT
#3128
Very very surprised Trickster beat MKP and Taeja. Too bad he got screwed by JYP beat Trickster twice in PvP. So close to having another Protoss in Code S. ><"
Joseph123
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria1144 Posts
September 08 2011 15:22 GMT
#3129
On September 09 2011 00:00 Reasonable wrote:
I am truly regretful for not being able to watch up/downs anymore due to work schedule. Just by looking at results I can tell that today's games were nothing but epic, with MKP jumping off the surface of the water.

If you like watching games similar to these in gsl open season 1, you will like it, otherwise not.
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
September 08 2011 15:22 GMT
#3130
i suare the god i will not watch a single tvt next season
just to be sure gom loses popularity because of this situation
hope some people will do the same
No carpal tunnel no skill
qqw
Profile Joined June 2011
107 Posts
September 08 2011 15:25 GMT
#3131
Well at least there will be less losses due to race imbalances next code S :D
EricCartman
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada306 Posts
September 08 2011 15:25 GMT
#3132
Pretty stupid how many people are whining about tvts. Whatever said and done, the players that deserved to win have got their spots. Regardless of race, you should see the player for how he plays.

Glad to see MKP back.
McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
September 08 2011 15:26 GMT
#3133
Not very happy about both T's making it....but yeahhhhhhhh MKP!!!!!
If you can chill. chill. - Liquid'Tyler
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 15:27:29
September 08 2011 15:26 GMT
#3134
On September 09 2011 00:09 parad0x0n wrote:
I think the problem with protoss is that its the most fragile race right now. Contrary to terrans or zergs a protoss can lose a game by just one inattention. So bad forcefields or something like that ends the game immediately. But this problem cant be fixed in patch so I think we have to wait until HotS comes out and new units will be introduced to balance this...

This + only harass P has is Phoenix, DT and Warp prism, neither are very good and there is no way to kill workers as fast zerglings, marines, banelings, bf hellions. 1 base terran is also so much stronger than P.

P macro mechanic is weaker than both Zerg(Inject) and Mules. Chrono is good but I think PvZ is incredibly hard to macro vs Z and TvP is so favoured early game for T and while being slightly stronger straight up mid and lategame for P while T has so much more mobility while Toss is basically like a meching Terran. Fungal is also incredibly strong vs P as you need balling and mobility to fight vs Roaches.


Sad times for P with no clear direction.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
September 08 2011 15:26 GMT
#3135
Moletrap and Wolf were raving about the storm drops when they did almost no damage, 5 drones for 5 storms over the course of 5 minutes is not effective. They were effective in BW cause the drones were slower and had shittier pathfinding. Here you're lucky to kill 2-3
Yhamm is the god of predictions
MikeG
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada128 Posts
September 08 2011 15:33 GMT
#3136
On September 09 2011 00:22 HQuality wrote:
i suare the god i will not watch a single tvt next season
just to be sure gom loses popularity because of this situation
hope some people will do the same


That'll teach them to put players in the rightful spot!

This isn't Gom's fault, not in the least. Unless they change the format to something that would put the same amount of players per race in the bracket.

Which MIGHT help, but it could, let's say, stop a better player from being able to participate.
I believe you have my stapler.
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 15:38:10
September 08 2011 15:36 GMT
#3137
Well - that went as expected! 20 Terrans in Code S. Tester falls, and JYP plays some fun games but doesn't make it. Congrats Terrans!
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
September 08 2011 15:36 GMT
#3138
Yess! MKP!

Sad JYP didn't make it.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 08 2011 15:37 GMT
#3139
On September 09 2011 00:33 MikeG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 00:22 HQuality wrote:
i suare the god i will not watch a single tvt next season
just to be sure gom loses popularity because of this situation
hope some people will do the same


That'll teach them to put players in the rightful spot!

This isn't Gom's fault, not in the least. Unless they change the format to something that would put the same amount of players per race in the bracket.

Which MIGHT help, but it could, let's say, stop a better player from being able to participate.


His reasoning was that a lack of viewership would translate to a response from Blizzard eventually to balance the races out a bit more aggressively. The logic is not entirely flawed because Blizzard has a pro bono relationship with GSL.
twitch.tv/medrea
Iron.Fist
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil268 Posts
September 08 2011 15:38 GMT
#3140
Feel happy for Taeja (who I think is gonna be a top Terran) and MKP even if that means Terran dominance. SO SAD for JYP
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