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Have fun everyone and enjoy todays games! <3

~Nyovne
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
September 08 2011 15:39 GMT
#3141
There's 1 protoss in the ELO top 15, what do you expect GSL to do about that?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
MikeG
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada128 Posts
September 08 2011 15:41 GMT
#3142
On September 09 2011 00:37 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 00:33 MikeG wrote:
On September 09 2011 00:22 HQuality wrote:
i suare the god i will not watch a single tvt next season
just to be sure gom loses popularity because of this situation
hope some people will do the same


That'll teach them to put players in the rightful spot!

This isn't Gom's fault, not in the least. Unless they change the format to something that would put the same amount of players per race in the bracket.

Which MIGHT help, but it could, let's say, stop a better player from being able to participate.


His reasoning was that a lack of viewership would translate to a response from Blizzard eventually to balance the races out a bit more aggressively. The logic is not entirely flawed because Blizzard has a pro bono relationship with GSL.


Ohh okay, true. I just hope Blizzard will take the GSL situation more seriously.
I believe you have my stapler.
Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
September 08 2011 15:42 GMT
#3143
Very sad JYP didn't make it. Really love watching him play, incredibly entertaining.

Poor Protoss
lovegg
Profile Joined September 2010
47 Posts
September 08 2011 15:47 GMT
#3144
gsl code T ftw~
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
September 08 2011 15:50 GMT
#3145
It may be just me. But I like TvT since GSTL March a lot. Imo its still the matchup where skill matters the most which makes it very Entertaining. Just my two Cents.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
September 08 2011 15:51 GMT
#3146
Yeah i like T v T too but not where i just watch T v Ts the whole day.
Some t v ts get really boring, we need more ganzi cheese to make it interesting.
Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
September 08 2011 15:52 GMT
#3147
On September 08 2011 22:20 KunFuSion wrote:
Hopefully the Zerg and Protoss unite during the Group Selections to take down some Terran! That should at least be interesting. :D


I would imagine that most Zergs would pick a Protoss since 1 win in group stage means you stay in Code S.
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
Orcinus33ft
Profile Joined September 2011
Korea (South)6 Posts
September 08 2011 15:59 GMT
#3148
On September 08 2011 22:22 Adreme wrote:
I find it annoying that the best players keep choosing terran. I know each race has a few players who dont deserve code S but it seems terran players are just solid lately with a pretty low amount of protoss players who honestly deserve code S. Honestly the only protoss who deserved code S who didnt get it was JYP but fate intervened so that MKP would get 2nd yet again.


I'm a Korean and have been an e-sports fan for a long time, and I think I can safely say that statement is just plain wrong.
There's no reason to think terran pro players have superior skills over protoss or zerg players, perhaps with only exception of MVP, probably was only pro player competitive enough in SC1 leagues when SC2 and GSL launched.
But even MVP didn't "choose" terran in SC2 for any particular reason, he chose it because he was also a terran player in SC1.

I'm not sure why this kind of myth keeps coming.. maybe because David Kim once said some similar remark?
That remark was just lame. Nobody in Korean forum (like playxp) take it seriously.
And nobody thinks JYP was outplayed by those two terran players.
That's not the reason he couldn't make it.
He did everything he could, and he did it pretty well, but just was playing wrong race.

Now everybody with common sense should notice there's something wrong in the game itself when you see 20 players out of 32 are playing certain race.
In elite level, protoss just can't beat terran.

You guys souldn't bash MKP just because he did 1-1-1.
He did what he is supposed to do. To win.
You should bash Blizzard for allowing him to do that.

And worse news?
Upcoming 1.4 patch will be no cure for 1-1-1 nor EMP.
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
September 08 2011 16:02 GMT
#3149
WOOT MKP! Down with JYP and Drunkster! :D
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
September 08 2011 16:03 GMT
#3150
Protoss underpowered! It's a fact.

Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
September 08 2011 16:09 GMT
#3151
On September 09 2011 00:59 Orcinus33ft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 22:22 Adreme wrote:
I find it annoying that the best players keep choosing terran. I know each race has a few players who dont deserve code S but it seems terran players are just solid lately with a pretty low amount of protoss players who honestly deserve code S. Honestly the only protoss who deserved code S who didnt get it was JYP but fate intervened so that MKP would get 2nd yet again.


I'm a Korean and have been an e-sports fan for a long time, and I think I can safely say that statement is just plain wrong.
There's no reason to think terran pro players have superior skills over protoss or zerg players, perhaps with only exception of MVP, probably was only pro player competitive enough in SC1 leagues when SC2 and GSL launched.
But even MVP didn't "choose" terran in SC2 for any particular reason, he chose it because he was also a terran player in SC1.

I'm not sure why this kind of myth keeps coming.. maybe because David Kim once said some similar remark?
That remark was just lame. Nobody in Korean forum (like playxp) take it seriously.
And nobody thinks JYP was outplayed by those two terran players.
That's not the reason he couldn't make it.
He did everything he could, and he did it pretty well, but just was playing wrong race.

Now everybody with common sense should notice there's something wrong in the game itself when you see 20 players out of 32 are playing certain race.
In elite level, protoss just can't beat terran.

You guys souldn't bash MKP just because he did 1-1-1.
He did what he is supposed to do. To win.
You should bash Blizzard for allowing him to do that.

And worse news?
Upcoming 1.4 patch will be no cure for 1-1-1 nor EMP.


Terran was dominant in bw too. Didn't mean it was imbalanced.

Protoss is more than fine in sc2. If anything they need changes not because of racial imbalance, but because I feel they are boring as hell. I've always felt warp gate mechanic was flawed as well.
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
September 08 2011 16:09 GMT
#3152
Wow MKP played really bad vs Trickster the first game. He kept making like 5-6 hellions vs mass stalkers instead of throwing down a tech lab and 1 tank. 1 tank + repairs will hold off the stalkers. Still, MKP with the superior strategy, micro, macro FTW!
Marines > everything
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
September 08 2011 16:25 GMT
#3153
Must've been a rollercoaster ride for those MarineKing Fanboys (and Girls) today :p

JYP is quickly becoming my favourite protoss with his constant harrass/multitasking, sad he couldn't make it
Orcinus33ft
Profile Joined September 2011
Korea (South)6 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 16:35:32
September 08 2011 16:26 GMT
#3154
On September 09 2011 01:09 jj33 wrote:
Protoss is more than fine in sc2.


Terran is winning 58% against protoss in code S for this whole year.
And thanks to warp gate nerf, it's becoming worse and worse.
So last season was 66%.
I'm not sure how this means "more than fine".
I don't know on what basis you are saying that statement, but numbers don't lie.

On September 09 2011 01:09 jj33 wrote:
If anything they need changes not because of racial imbalance, but because I feel they are boring as hell.


Did you miss JYP's game today?
You should watch it.
His play was entertaining enough, but he just lost.
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 08 2011 16:26 GMT
#3155
I think GOM's viewership will have a profound impact on blizzards balancing. They have a business partnership which means GOM can put a lot of pressure on Blizz.

I know it doesn't matter at my level (diamond) but playing protoss is just depressing because there is no inspirational pro play that I can strive to emulate. I am serious thinking of switching to terran if 1.4 doesn't offer some hope. If for no other reason that I can actually do different shit when I play.

Playing protoss feels like we either are trying to sucker punch the other race without them noticing or we brace ourselves and just let ourselves get beat on until the opponent gets tired of swinging.

Can we have our amulet back yet? D:
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
September 08 2011 16:32 GMT
#3156
On September 09 2011 01:26 Snorkle wrote:
I think GOM's viewership will have a profound impact on blizzards balancing. They have a business partnership which means GOM can put a lot of pressure on Blizz.

I know it doesn't matter at my level (diamond) but playing protoss is just depressing because there is no inspirational pro play that I can strive to emulate. I am serious thinking of switching to terran if 1.4 doesn't offer some hope. If for no other reason that I can actually do different shit when I play.

Playing protoss feels like we either are trying to sucker punch the other race without them noticing or we brace ourselves and just let ourselves get beat on until the opponent gets tired of swinging.

Can we have our amulet back yet? D:

Playing Protoss is like playing Sakura in SF4 LOL
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44263 Posts
September 08 2011 16:35 GMT
#3157
On September 08 2011 22:39 zxd123 wrote:
welcome to code T.


Made me laugh ^^ It's so sad

I've kind of stopped liking Tester, but I was hoping that the Protosses would have a little more success...

I'm interested in seeing if the upcoming patch will cause crucial changes in the metagame, or if Terran will keep dominating.

Other than that, all I can say is that I'm totally sticking with Protoss because

+ Show Spoiler +
everyone knows they're gonna be totally OP when Legacy of the Void comes out, and I'm planning ahead
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
September 08 2011 16:37 GMT
#3158
On September 09 2011 01:32 ShootingStars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 01:26 Snorkle wrote:
I think GOM's viewership will have a profound impact on blizzards balancing. They have a business partnership which means GOM can put a lot of pressure on Blizz.

I know it doesn't matter at my level (diamond) but playing protoss is just depressing because there is no inspirational pro play that I can strive to emulate. I am serious thinking of switching to terran if 1.4 doesn't offer some hope. If for no other reason that I can actually do different shit when I play.

Playing protoss feels like we either are trying to sucker punch the other race without them noticing or we brace ourselves and just let ourselves get beat on until the opponent gets tired of swinging.

Can we have our amulet back yet? D:

Playing Protoss is like playing Sakura in SF4 LOL


...So Protoss is a race that everyone ignores despite actually being quite good?

Maybe choose a better analogy if you're going to whine.
pak150
Profile Joined September 2010
United States531 Posts
September 08 2011 16:40 GMT
#3159
Code A is going to be way more entertaining than Code S next season.
canilsen
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway286 Posts
September 08 2011 16:46 GMT
#3160
lol, MKP second place in group
when I am king you will be first against the wall
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