On September 04 2011 05:01 Micket wrote: I think people will notice the European players more if they actually won something at a LAN. Bomber was unknown before he appeared in GSTL but coaches were saying things like "the outcome of the match will be decided on Bomber's performance." Everyone watching was like 'wthuk', because we all assumed ST was the team Rainbow and July were on and everyone else was a scrub. Who was this Bomber kid? Bomber got his fame with the bm and failing to qualify for code A and then winning code A, beating mma, ryung and MVP.
Once a European player does that, they will be noticed. Until then, they will be ignored by most of the NA community.
It's not like NA besides HuK have won anything at a LAN recently. All the recent tournaments not won by Koreans have been won by Europeans anyway. Assembly: Dimaga, IPL2: White-Ra.
On September 04 2011 05:01 Micket wrote: I think people will notice the European players more if they actually won something at a LAN. Bomber was unknown before he appeared in GSTL but coaches were saying things like "the outcome of the match will be decided on Bomber's performance." Everyone watching was like 'wthuk', because we all assumed ST was the team Rainbow and July were on and everyone else was a scrub. Who was this Bomber kid? Bomber got his fame with the bm and failing to qualify for code A and then winning code A, beating mma, ryung and MVP.
Once a European player does that, they will be noticed. Until then, they will be ignored by most of the NA community.
It's not like NA besides HuK have won anything at a LAN recently. All the recent tournaments not won by Koreans have been won by Europeans anyway. Assembly: Dimaga, IPL2: White-Ra.
...and hey, guess what, everyone knows those two guys. I think Micket was referring to guys who only dominate online events like Nerchio and Stephano. Sure, they might be as good or even better right now than the Idras and the Rets, but until they can prove it at a lan, the general populace isn't going to notice.
For example, no one gives a shit that Ddoro and Lovecd have all beaten NesTea in online Bo3's, but Dimaga's Bo3 win against him (at a lan)? Holy shit, everyone brings up that match whenever people talk about NesTea's ZvZ.
On September 04 2011 05:01 Micket wrote: I think people will notice the European players more if they actually won something at a LAN. Bomber was unknown before he appeared in GSTL but coaches were saying things like "the outcome of the match will be decided on Bomber's performance." Everyone watching was like 'wthuk', because we all assumed ST was the team Rainbow and July were on and everyone else was a scrub. Who was this Bomber kid? Bomber got his fame with the bm and failing to qualify for code A and then winning code A, beating mma, ryung and MVP.
Once a European player does that, they will be noticed. Until then, they will be ignored by most of the NA community.
lol, the AM community doesn't notice European players because they don't pay attention. European players are on another level than AM players, it's not even close. But a lot of AM players think they're super good, and so we don't hear enough about EU players until they destroy AM players at IEM or MLG or any other international LAN.
Also, this Pride vs Attero series was so funny to referee.
On September 04 2011 05:01 Micket wrote: I think people will notice the European players more if they actually won something at a LAN. Bomber was unknown before he appeared in GSTL but coaches were saying things like "the outcome of the match will be decided on Bomber's performance." Everyone watching was like 'wthuk', because we all assumed ST was the team Rainbow and July were on and everyone else was a scrub. Who was this Bomber kid? Bomber got his fame with the bm and failing to qualify for code A and then winning code A, beating mma, ryung and MVP.
Once a European player does that, they will be noticed. Until then, they will be ignored by most of the NA community.
lol, the AM community doesn't notice European players because they don't pay attention. European players are on another level than AM players, it's not even close. But a lot of AM players think they're super good, and so we don't hear enough about EU players until they destroy AM players at IEM or MLG or any other international LAN.
Also, this Pride vs Attero series was so funny to referee.
So much generalizing, I was hyping up nerchio before most of the EU crowd was even doing so. Also pretty ironic thing to cry ignorance when we saw waves of EU people not knowing who trimaster was, NA and EU crowds are biased towards their own hidden talent and will logically know about those smaller cup winners before anyone else will.
On September 04 2011 05:01 Micket wrote: I think people will notice the European players more if they actually won something at a LAN. Bomber was unknown before he appeared in GSTL but coaches were saying things like "the outcome of the match will be decided on Bomber's performance." Everyone watching was like 'wthuk', because we all assumed ST was the team Rainbow and July were on and everyone else was a scrub. Who was this Bomber kid? Bomber got his fame with the bm and failing to qualify for code A and then winning code A, beating mma, ryung and MVP.
Once a European player does that, they will be noticed. Until then, they will be ignored by most of the NA community.
It's not like NA besides HuK have won anything at a LAN recently. All the recent tournaments not won by Koreans have been won by Europeans anyway. Assembly: Dimaga, IPL2: White-Ra.
True, NA players have not won anything lately either. But earlier on, when they did win, that's when they got famous. Dimaga and White-ra are very famous amongst all players, so of course my point wasn't to do with them. They have had much success before, and were already very popular before their big tournament wins.
But lesser known EU players who do well on Ladder and online cups cannot expect to become famous without turning up to lans and actually winning them. NA people cannot be expected to be knowledgable of a player who hasn't won anything.
For example, no one gives a shit that Ddoro and Lovecd have all beaten NesTea in online Bo3's, but Dimaga's Bo3 win against him (at a lan)? Holy shit, everyone brings up that match whenever people talk about NesTea's ZvZ.
funny you should mention dimaga's zvz, it's such a funny thing, everyone talks about his game vs nestea, but as nobody watches the european cups they don't see bly absolutely smack him up in a hive vs hive game where every base was taken on crossfire, because dimaga opted to neglect upgrades for 40 minutes. it's a mirror, it's volatile
edit - more in reference to the guy that was going *cough* dimaga when i'm on about nerchio earlier, best to get more than a 3 game sample size vs nestea imo
On September 04 2011 05:01 Micket wrote: I think people will notice the European players more if they actually won something at a LAN. Bomber was unknown before he appeared in GSTL but coaches were saying things like "the outcome of the match will be decided on Bomber's performance." Everyone watching was like 'wthuk', because we all assumed ST was the team Rainbow and July were on and everyone else was a scrub. Who was this Bomber kid? Bomber got his fame with the bm and failing to qualify for code A and then winning code A, beating mma, ryung and MVP.
Once a European player does that, they will be noticed. Until then, they will be ignored by most of the NA community.
lol, the AM community doesn't notice European players because they don't pay attention. European players are on another level than AM players, it's not even close. But a lot of AM players think they're super good, and so we don't hear enough about EU players until they destroy AM players at IEM or MLG or any other international LAN.
Also, this Pride vs Attero series was so funny to referee.
So much generalizing, I was hyping up nerchio before most of the EU crowd was even doing so. Also pretty ironic thing to cry ignorance when we saw waves of EU people not knowing who trimaster was, NA and EU crowds are biased towards their own hidden talent and will logically know about those smaller cup winners before anyone else will.
THIS. EU is better but I'll know the AM scene way better since the times work out better.
On September 04 2011 05:01 Micket wrote: I think people will notice the European players more if they actually won something at a LAN. Bomber was unknown before he appeared in GSTL but coaches were saying things like "the outcome of the match will be decided on Bomber's performance." Everyone watching was like 'wthuk', because we all assumed ST was the team Rainbow and July were on and everyone else was a scrub. Who was this Bomber kid? Bomber got his fame with the bm and failing to qualify for code A and then winning code A, beating mma, ryung and MVP.
Once a European player does that, they will be noticed. Until then, they will be ignored by most of the NA community.
It's not like NA besides HuK have won anything at a LAN recently. All the recent tournaments not won by Koreans have been won by Europeans anyway. Assembly: Dimaga, IPL2: White-Ra.
True, NA players have not won anything lately either. But earlier on, when they did win, that's when they got famous. Dimaga and White-ra are very famous amongst all players, so of course my point wasn't to do with them. They have had much success before, and were already very popular before their big tournament wins.
But lesser known EU players who do well on Ladder and online cups cannot expect to become famous without turning up to lans and actually winning them. NA people cannot be expected to be knowledgable of a player who hasn't won anything.
Teamliquid is a powerfull tool, not just a forum...
You can find a lot of info here regarding almost any player, tournament you want. If NA guys don't even bother to check the TLPD once in a while, what to expect from their knowledge?
For the most part it's like: OMG herp MLG derp! - post a comment- derp... that's all basically...
On September 04 2011 05:01 Micket wrote: I think people will notice the European players more if they actually won something at a LAN. Bomber was unknown before he appeared in GSTL but coaches were saying things like "the outcome of the match will be decided on Bomber's performance." Everyone watching was like 'wthuk', because we all assumed ST was the team Rainbow and July were on and everyone else was a scrub. Who was this Bomber kid? Bomber got his fame with the bm and failing to qualify for code A and then winning code A, beating mma, ryung and MVP.
Once a European player does that, they will be noticed. Until then, they will be ignored by most of the NA community.
lol, the AM community doesn't notice European players because they don't pay attention. European players are on another level than AM players, it's not even close. But a lot of AM players think they're super good, and so we don't hear enough about EU players until they destroy AM players at IEM or MLG or any other international LAN.
Also, this Pride vs Attero series was so funny to referee.
So much generalizing, I was hyping up nerchio before most of the EU crowd was even doing so. Also pretty ironic thing to cry ignorance when we saw waves of EU people not knowing who trimaster was, NA and EU crowds are biased towards their own hidden talent and will logically know about those smaller cup winners before anyone else will.
yeah kind of agree with this. While I do agree that EU has more better players, there are NA players who can play and beat EU players and have done so many times.
On September 04 2011 05:01 Micket wrote: I think people will notice the European players more if they actually won something at a LAN. Bomber was unknown before he appeared in GSTL but coaches were saying things like "the outcome of the match will be decided on Bomber's performance." Everyone watching was like 'wthuk', because we all assumed ST was the team Rainbow and July were on and everyone else was a scrub. Who was this Bomber kid? Bomber got his fame with the bm and failing to qualify for code A and then winning code A, beating mma, ryung and MVP.
Once a European player does that, they will be noticed. Until then, they will be ignored by most of the NA community.
lol, the AM community doesn't notice European players because they don't pay attention. European players are on another level than AM players, it's not even close. But a lot of AM players think they're super good, and so we don't hear enough about EU players until they destroy AM players at IEM or MLG or any other international LAN.
Also, this Pride vs Attero series was so funny to referee.
On September 04 2011 05:01 Micket wrote: I think people will notice the European players more if they actually won something at a LAN. Bomber was unknown before he appeared in GSTL but coaches were saying things like "the outcome of the match will be decided on Bomber's performance." Everyone watching was like 'wthuk', because we all assumed ST was the team Rainbow and July were on and everyone else was a scrub. Who was this Bomber kid? Bomber got his fame with the bm and failing to qualify for code A and then winning code A, beating mma, ryung and MVP.
Once a European player does that, they will be noticed. Until then, they will be ignored by most of the NA community.
It's not like NA besides HuK have won anything at a LAN recently. All the recent tournaments not won by Koreans have been won by Europeans anyway. Assembly: Dimaga, IPL2: White-Ra.
True, NA players have not won anything lately either. But earlier on, when they did win, that's when they got famous. Dimaga and White-ra are very famous amongst all players, so of course my point wasn't to do with them. They have had much success before, and were already very popular before their big tournament wins.
But lesser known EU players who do well on Ladder and online cups cannot expect to become famous without turning up to lans and actually winning them. NA people cannot be expected to be knowledgable of a player who hasn't won anything.
Teamliquid is a powerfull tool, not just a forum...
You can find a lot of info here regarding almost any player, tournament you want. If NA guys don't even bother to check the TLPD once in a while, what to expect from their knowledge?
For the most part it's like: OMG herp MLG derp! - post a comment- derp... that's all basically...
Wat is err um "TLPD" is that like a police department for Teamliquid.net?
On September 04 2011 05:01 Micket wrote: I think people will notice the European players more if they actually won something at a LAN. Bomber was unknown before he appeared in GSTL but coaches were saying things like "the outcome of the match will be decided on Bomber's performance." Everyone watching was like 'wthuk', because we all assumed ST was the team Rainbow and July were on and everyone else was a scrub. Who was this Bomber kid? Bomber got his fame with the bm and failing to qualify for code A and then winning code A, beating mma, ryung and MVP.
Once a European player does that, they will be noticed. Until then, they will be ignored by most of the NA community.
lol, the AM community doesn't notice European players because they don't pay attention. European players are on another level than AM players, it's not even close. But a lot of AM players think they're super good, and so we don't hear enough about EU players until they destroy AM players at IEM or MLG or any other international LAN.
Also, this Pride vs Attero series was so funny to referee.
Wow you are ignorant.
A vast majority of NA server players know that EU players are better on average -__-
EPT
