On September 04 2011 04:15 Whatsup wrote: What did Idra wrote before the gg on metalopolis? I missed it
boy it must be frustrating when your cheesy bullshit doesn't work.
That was golden when IdrA Said that
BM is good for E-Sports ! (Just not on the level of Combat-EX BM)
IdrA is manner he's just BM when Low Skill Ceiling Protoss utilise cheese to win because they can't play a straight up game.
Because forcefielding ramp and using warp-prism is not playing straight-up ? What's playing straight-up then ? Camping at your base while Idra makes only drones and take the whole map ? Is playing straight-up another expression for playing stupid ?
That really isn't straight up, it's very creative. If you want to see straight up protoss play that wins watch MaNa or Socke.
Whether people consider it cheesy or gimmicky is just subjective.
he wants protoss to play like zerg, taking expansions, huge macro game 3-4 robos ready to switch back and forth between mass colossus and templars etc...
On September 04 2011 04:15 Whatsup wrote: What did Idra wrote before the gg on metalopolis? I missed it
boy it must be frustrating when your cheesy bullshit doesn't work.
That was golden when IdrA Said that
BM is good for E-Sports ! (Just not on the level of Combat-EX BM)
IdrA is manner he's just BM when Low Skill Ceiling Protoss utilise cheese to win because they can't play a straight up game.
Because forcefielding ramp and using warp-prism is not playing straight-up ? What's playing straight-up then ? Camping at your base while Idra makes only drones and take the whole map ? Is playing straight-up another expression for playing stupid ?
That really isn't straight up, it's very creative. If you want to see straight up protoss play that wins watch MaNa or Socke.
Whether people consider it cheesy or gimmicky is just subjective.
Not that that stopped Mana from getting bm'd
TGun really got pretty sick lately, time in Korea well spent imo. Fun player to watch and consistently performing too. Good stuff.
ed: though I thought he won 2-0 and apparently it's only 1-1, speaking of 1 and 1, I hope he can hold off this 11-11 ><
On September 04 2011 04:31 alan25 wrote: he wants protoss to play like zerg, taking expansions, huge macro game 3-4 robos ready to switch back and forth between mass colossus and templars etc...
On September 04 2011 04:17 MrCon wrote: Ho god. Sometimes ago Idra was bm in a funny way, now he's bm in a sad, bitter way. It's real bm now. He can't even understand why a unknown could be happy to play him, and use some special tricks to try beat him. No, he'll just insult him after winning to not having played a mAcRo GaMe. Idra, you're a sad human being.
Haha Kalin an unknown? And besides it's not like his opponents don't know how he will react to that kind of builds
blast possibly have the best group of up and coming players that you don't know about. indy won a weekly cup last week with very nice protoss play, syz and tefel are also both very good
Good to know, I'll try to keep an eye on them, especially as it's a french team =) His answer to idra's bm was good tho, that's some bonus points for Kalin.
Idra plays this game as a job, and has done so for almost 5 years, how can he not be emotional about it?
On September 04 2011 04:17 MrCon wrote: Ho god. Sometimes ago Idra was bm in a funny way, now he's bm in a sad, bitter way. It's real bm now. He can't even understand why a unknown could be happy to play him, and use some special tricks to try beat him. No, he'll just insult him after winning to not having played a mAcRo GaMe. Idra, you're a sad human being.
Haha Kalin an unknown? And besides it's not like his opponents don't know how he will react to that kind of builds
blast possibly have the best group of up and coming players that you don't know about. indy won a weekly cup last week with very nice protoss play, syz and tefel are also both very good
Good to know, I'll try to keep an eye on them, especially as it's a french team =) His answer to idra's bm was good tho, that's some bonus points for Kalin.
Idra plays this game as a job, and has done so for almost 5 years, how can he not be emotional about it?
Most people dont throw about insults when something goes wrong at work ;-)
On September 04 2011 04:17 MrCon wrote: Ho god. Sometimes ago Idra was bm in a funny way, now he's bm in a sad, bitter way. It's real bm now. He can't even understand why a unknown could be happy to play him, and use some special tricks to try beat him. No, he'll just insult him after winning to not having played a mAcRo GaMe. Idra, you're a sad human being.
Haha Kalin an unknown? And besides it's not like his opponents don't know how he will react to that kind of builds
blast possibly have the best group of up and coming players that you don't know about. indy won a weekly cup last week with very nice protoss play, syz and tefel are also both very good
Good to know, I'll try to keep an eye on them, especially as it's a french team =) His answer to idra's bm was good tho, that's some bonus points for Kalin.
Idra plays this game as a job, and has done so for almost 5 years, how can he not be emotional about it?
I don't want to enter this debate, I'll just direct you to all other progamers who are doing that as a job for years but still manage to respect their opponents.
On September 04 2011 04:17 MrCon wrote: Ho god. Sometimes ago Idra was bm in a funny way, now he's bm in a sad, bitter way. It's real bm now. He can't even understand why a unknown could be happy to play him, and use some special tricks to try beat him. No, he'll just insult him after winning to not having played a mAcRo GaMe. Idra, you're a sad human being.
Haha Kalin an unknown? And besides it's not like his opponents don't know how he will react to that kind of builds
blast possibly have the best group of up and coming players that you don't know about. indy won a weekly cup last week with very nice protoss play, syz and tefel are also both very good
Good to know, I'll try to keep an eye on them, especially as it's a french team =) His answer to idra's bm was good tho, that's some bonus points for Kalin.
Idra plays this game as a job, and has done so for almost 5 years, how can he not be emotional about it?
Most people dont throw about insults when something goes wrong at work ;-)
I would point to all other sports or games being played as a living, There is even alot of shit talking in chess.
On September 04 2011 04:17 MrCon wrote: Ho god. Sometimes ago Idra was bm in a funny way, now he's bm in a sad, bitter way. It's real bm now. He can't even understand why a unknown could be happy to play him, and use some special tricks to try beat him. No, he'll just insult him after winning to not having played a mAcRo GaMe. Idra, you're a sad human being.
Haha Kalin an unknown? And besides it's not like his opponents don't know how he will react to that kind of builds
blast possibly have the best group of up and coming players that you don't know about. indy won a weekly cup last week with very nice protoss play, syz and tefel are also both very good
Good to know, I'll try to keep an eye on them, especially as it's a french team =) His answer to idra's bm was good tho, that's some bonus points for Kalin.
Idra plays this game as a job, and has done so for almost 5 years, how can he not be emotional about it?
so what, everyone else he BMs plays it just one hour a day for fun?
Wow Nerchio getting pwned by another creative strategy. This weekend (since code A qualifiers) have seen a resurgence of strong protoss play and builds, is it the end of the general protoss slump ?
I would point to all other sports or games being played as a living, There is even alot of shit talking in chess.
idra playing chess would be hilarious. idra as white plays e4, opponent plays c5, idra claims white isn't supposed to beat the sicilian and resigns on the spot
On September 04 2011 04:17 MrCon wrote: Ho god. Sometimes ago Idra was bm in a funny way, now he's bm in a sad, bitter way. It's real bm now. He can't even understand why a unknown could be happy to play him, and use some special tricks to try beat him. No, he'll just insult him after winning to not having played a mAcRo GaMe. Idra, you're a sad human being.
Haha Kalin an unknown? And besides it's not like his opponents don't know how he will react to that kind of builds
blast possibly have the best group of up and coming players that you don't know about. indy won a weekly cup last week with very nice protoss play, syz and tefel are also both very good
Good to know, I'll try to keep an eye on them, especially as it's a french team =) His answer to idra's bm was good tho, that's some bonus points for Kalin.
Idra plays this game as a job, and has done so for almost 5 years, how can he not be emotional about it?
Most people dont throw about insults when something goes wrong at work ;-)
I would point to all other sports or games being played as a living, There is even alot of shit talking in chess.
Yeah - we totally see the runner up in wimbledon complaining how cheesy hitting all those aces is ;-)
On September 04 2011 04:17 MrCon wrote: Ho god. Sometimes ago Idra was bm in a funny way, now he's bm in a sad, bitter way. It's real bm now. He can't even understand why a unknown could be happy to play him, and use some special tricks to try beat him. No, he'll just insult him after winning to not having played a mAcRo GaMe. Idra, you're a sad human being.
Haha Kalin an unknown? And besides it's not like his opponents don't know how he will react to that kind of builds
blast possibly have the best group of up and coming players that you don't know about. indy won a weekly cup last week with very nice protoss play, syz and tefel are also both very good
Good to know, I'll try to keep an eye on them, especially as it's a french team =) His answer to idra's bm was good tho, that's some bonus points for Kalin.
Idra plays this game as a job, and has done so for almost 5 years, how can he not be emotional about it?
I don't want to enter this debate, I'll just direct you to all other progamers who are doing that as a job for years but still manage to respect their opponents.
We don't live in a utopia where everyone puts on a fake smile and fake wink thanking them for a raping they just got.
Any competitive scene requires a polarizing figure to contrast the mannerisms of others, I personally find sheth's repeated necessity to be overly nice a bit nauseating.
On September 04 2011 04:37 MrCon wrote: Wow Nerchio getting pwned by another creative strategy. This weekend (since code A qualifiers) have seen a resurgence of strong protoss play and builds, is it the end of the general protoss slump ?
Elaborate please on what the toss did? Not seeing the games but always interested to hear neat Toss builds since imo they've got a lot of room for awesome execution.
On September 04 2011 04:37 MrCon wrote: Wow Nerchio getting pwned by another creative strategy. This weekend (since code A qualifiers) have seen a resurgence of strong protoss play and builds, is it the end of the general protoss slump ?
Elaborate please on what the toss did? Not seeing the games but always interested to hear neat Toss builds since imo they've got a lot of room for awesome execution.
Two base 7 (?) gate warp prism, pure zealot play in nerchio's main. Nerchio was going mass ling and pretty much instantly lost his lair and tech.
On September 04 2011 04:17 MrCon wrote: Ho god. Sometimes ago Idra was bm in a funny way, now he's bm in a sad, bitter way. It's real bm now. He can't even understand why a unknown could be happy to play him, and use some special tricks to try beat him. No, he'll just insult him after winning to not having played a mAcRo GaMe. Idra, you're a sad human being.
Haha Kalin an unknown? And besides it's not like his opponents don't know how he will react to that kind of builds
blast possibly have the best group of up and coming players that you don't know about. indy won a weekly cup last week with very nice protoss play, syz and tefel are also both very good
Good to know, I'll try to keep an eye on them, especially as it's a french team =) His answer to idra's bm was good tho, that's some bonus points for Kalin.
Idra plays this game as a job, and has done so for almost 5 years, how can he not be emotional about it?
Most people dont throw about insults when something goes wrong at work ;-)
I would point to all other sports or games being played as a living, There is even alot of shit talking in chess.
Yeah - we totally see the runner up in wimbledon complaining how cheesy hitting all those aces is ;-)
Yeah, we totaly dont see boxers almost fighting in the pre match interviews ;-)
See how easy it is finding extreme examples? Now lets stop the stupid debate which cant find a sollution.
Is nerchio that desanir guy?
Edit: wow am i the only one lagging in cheezhead's stream? noone of the others are lagging :S
On September 04 2011 04:37 MrCon wrote: Wow Nerchio getting pwned by another creative strategy. This weekend (since code A qualifiers) have seen a resurgence of strong protoss play and builds, is it the end of the general protoss slump ?
Elaborate please on what the toss did? Not seeing the games but always interested to hear neat Toss builds since imo they've got a lot of room for awesome execution.
Two base 7 (?) gate warp prism, pure zealot play in nerchio's main. Nerchio was going mass ling and pretty much instantly lost his lair and tech.
On September 04 2011 04:37 MrCon wrote: Wow Nerchio getting pwned by another creative strategy. This weekend (since code A qualifiers) have seen a resurgence of strong protoss play and builds, is it the end of the general protoss slump ?
Elaborate please on what the toss did? Not seeing the games but always interested to hear neat Toss builds since imo they've got a lot of room for awesome execution.
He went for fast mass speedlots on shakuras, attacked the 3rd while sending another big zeal force to the main with a warp prism and just overwhelmed the main (no sentry to ff the ramp, perhaps I missed them). He hit a timing when nerchio was still macroing and teching without a lot of units, and as he had zealots at each hatchery nerchio couldn't stabilize, chargelots could pursue every roach that spawned.
EPT
(Just not on the level of Combat-EX BM)
