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Stop with the stupid TT1 discussion, this topic is no place for it and you can all express your likes and dislikes in a more respectful and constructive manner. ~Nyovne | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
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JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On August 31 2011 19:09 GreatestThreat wrote: And I don't even think anything MVP did in game 1 and two are cheeses... He didn't use cloaked banshees + ravens for game 1 and 2. IMO the 1-1-1 is most powerful when you mix in banshee harass to bait Toss to make more stalkers --> raven point defense drone siege later --> zomg no damage from my stalkers + everything else melting. Why do people have this backwards logic? More like MVP is so damn good, he didn't have to be confined to any particular style the first two games. So he decided to do short cheese games instead of long macro games. How is there something wrong with that? Freaking whiners. Everyone's got their own definition of cheese, but in general a cheese = a very high risk, moderately high reward build more often than not done with zero scouting + pulling workers. I don't think MVP cheesed, but instead reacted perfectly to scouting as any pro gamer would in games 1 + 2. On the other hand, the 1-1-1 opening for Terran is simply a robust opening v P, being able to respond to nearly anything the protoss tosses at terran. Whether you go ahead and perform the marine/tank/raven/banshee all in is another story. Game 3 = Straight up macro game, Huk had a timing where he might've done well depending on flanking/FF's etc. But MVP baited him into the corner of the map like a pro. Then the rest is history | ||
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pookadin
Australia422 Posts
 Gogogo Ryung. I'd love to see Ryung vs MVP | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On August 31 2011 19:13 MrCon wrote: Huk waited so long to push in game 3...Don't research charge or stuff, get +1 weapons, megamass stalkers, and push. Then the decision to expand on the far of the map when he has a 3rd very close, so he get sandwiched and dropped and bad rallypointed >< Huk clearly tilted. He had lost the game at that point The far away third was a risk. MVP scouted it and dealt with it, but there was no way in hell that HuK could ever come back by playing standard. You would need to be MC to do that | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On August 31 2011 19:14 Sarang wrote: hahahahahahaha. no. ZvT is balanced. volatile, but balanced. Balanced? Oh ok, so that's why bfh and barracks are getting nerfed. | ||
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Montana[TK]
1624 Posts
On August 31 2011 19:13 Rojam wrote: This is the first match for me after my 3 month abscence from sc2 and THIS is what I have to see? After the "best foreigner" talk by tastosis at the beginning I thought HuK got better, but this is a joke. He's playing like a robot, doesn't adapt, leaving naked collosi in the middle of the map, chasing a ball instead of attacking and be proactive instead of reactive. I don't want to downtalk MVP's skill, he is using his head, like a pro should do. I'm just sad that so many clear tactical errors are still made. Not fun to watch  Let's see what July's got.Why are you watching random live crap? Go watch NaDa vs PuMa first Bo3 and DRG vs Bomber g1in MLG . | ||
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TeWy
France714 Posts
South Korea is clearly one step ahead of Europe which is itself one stop ahead of North America. I hope China will show some dominance like they did with Warcraft 3 because watching South Koreans dominating every single tournament where they're invited is pretty boring. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On August 31 2011 19:10 Dev11 wrote: Im sorry, but he brought every scv with him in game 1. How is that not allin. He had enough mules to continue making Marines for the next four minutes of game time...  Well, that was... incredibly disheartening. HuK didn't look like HuK at all, seemed kind of shaky at best. MVP also destroyed him mind game wise, two all-in 1 base builds, then a super greedy hyper expanding build. Speaking of super greedy hyper expanding builds, I feel like three base before tech Terran is likely a lot stronger than three base before tech Zerg. I mean, Lings/Roaches are good, but marines are so much better... Terran doesn't even need to get gas to do that. -.- | ||
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flodeskum
Iceland1267 Posts
On August 31 2011 19:13 SC2Phoenix wrote: going double expo before gas will do that. No idea what toss can do to scout it and then respond to it. Feels like terran can do so many strong all in pushes but at the same time play so rediculously greedy and get away with it. I give up on protoss T_T Most terrans can't play like that. Give MVP some credit. He'd be beating huk if he was a zerg or protoss too. He's just incredibly good. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
But on the other hand, I know Mvp will crush July in a Bo5, so I hope he wins Mvp fighting! | ||
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Tremendous
Denmark155 Posts
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Akhee
Brazil811 Posts
On August 31 2011 19:14 Roe wrote: if he doesn't take all his scvs, then how is it an all-in? 4gate cutting probes in 20 is not all in? | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On August 31 2011 19:14 Sarang wrote: hahahahahahaha. no. ZvT is balanced. volatile, but balanced. I'd agree on the grounds that bf hellions are bullcrap in every matchup! Can't wait for that patch to come Oh it's going to be so much more fun to play | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On August 31 2011 19:14 Plexa wrote: I don't call it an all in. I call it a timing attack. People underestimate the power of timing attacks and how you can just go back home if it doesn't work out. | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On August 31 2011 19:14 Teton wrote: mvp and nestea are really the 2 best players in the world there is relatively big distance beetwen them though | ||
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PikaXchU
Singapore379 Posts
On August 31 2011 19:14 Roe wrote: if he doesn't take all his scvs, then how is it an all-in? Some people just want to QQ about Terran, so that just use the more convenient and cryptic method of QQ-ing by using the term "ALL-IN". | ||
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DJams
United States447 Posts
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HinagikUx
United States178 Posts
On August 31 2011 19:12 tyrless wrote: ^^^THIS. On his best day Huk would not have taken a game off MVP. ive seen huk beat mvp many times on his stream. of course you cant compare ladder to an actual set, but this statement is just wrong...huk did play terrible in g3, but he was so far behind anyway it was so hard to come back at that point. His only chance was to attack and not get drawn away to the left corner (which also let mvp scout his expo), but mvp's BO along with huk losing a couple stalkers was pretty much gg lol | ||
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sagichu
United States280 Posts
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stevorino
957 Posts
On August 31 2011 19:09 NguN wrote: lol MVP BoX is ridiculous Marine/Tank >>> 1 Gate Sentry expo Banshee all in > Huk's 2 base 1/1/1 (lol) 1 Rax expand > 3 Gate pressure expand no banshees in the whole series dude. | ||
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