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Stop with the stupid TT1 discussion, this topic is no place for it and you can all express your likes and dislikes in a more respectful and constructive manner. ~Nyovne | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On September 01 2011 00:26 ThaZenith wrote: Thank god it looks like July put up some good games, although I find it amusing the games he won are 90%+ recommended and the ones he lost are like 70%+ no's. Gonna have to go watch em. Too bad about HuK, but I wasn't expecting him to beat mvp anyways, at least he put up a tiny bit of a fight. the ryung wins werent that impressive in comparison | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On August 31 2011 22:56 Mithridates wrote: Terran vs Protoss is fundamentally broken. Terran can 1 rax FE all day while when protoss does it they automatically die to terran all ins. Protoss needs some sort of defensive advantage against terran in the mid game its not that simple defending toss allins if terrans FE. You cant just build 1 bunker and go "lol allin defended gg" Tho yes agree wif ur last sentence. | ||
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On September 01 2011 00:48 Slardar wrote: MVP has basically rolled the best of each race more or less..... Nestea, MC, Poltimus.... what else do you want from this guy. He is a monster. July beat MVP first time they met(twice in ro32 or something) beat him twice with busts. I'm hoping they go into a more mid-macro semi-cheese style. July will be in the cheese groove, MVP will take it in the long run due to his mechanics. Excited, let's have some good games! not to take anything away from MVP cuz i love him, but bo1s don't really count. | ||
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Gutrot
122 Posts
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StarcraftKevin
United States285 Posts
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lizzard_warish
589 Posts
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On September 01 2011 01:24 kineticSYN wrote: lol @ the people saying july will beat mvp because 'last time they met' he '2-0'd' him the 2-0's you're talking about were from group stages, and both were baneling bust allins they met more recently in the world championships where mvp decisively 3-1'd for a sweep. lost game 1 which was pretty close, and then mvp decimated him in every way in games 2, 3, and 4. mvp's tvz is nothing short of perfection and artwork, and july is inconsistent/hit or miss. hoping for some good games but i don't see anything besides probably a 3-1 victory again for mvp, might even be 3-0 since mvp's form this season is fucking amazing Game 1 wasn't close at all, and I remember a game on Tal Darim, where MVP basically abused the map with tank drop in the ledge between two hatcheries and shelled both at the same time where July had no way to really defend. It wasn't much different from winning on Lost Temple with a Thor/Tank drop, which got that map changed because it was recognized to be imbalanced. In the end, they're 3-3 overall. Edit: And 3-1 is by definition not a sweep. | ||
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Techno
1900 Posts
On September 01 2011 00:21 Kilby wrote: I feel sad Huk lost but the opponent was just too good this time. At least with his latest GSL run I think he finally cemented his position as the second best foreigner in GSL history. HuK is second to no foreigner. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On September 01 2011 01:46 lizzard_warish wrote: So MVP actually went 1-1-1 builds despite saying people who do them should be banned from tournys? lol, I have no respect for this guy anymore. At least keep to the points you make for crying out loud. Well, Huk did say that he wanted MVP to 1/1/1 because he thought he knew the counter. Maybe MVP was just obliging him.  | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On August 31 2011 18:56 sk1nex wrote: Agreed! I appreciate a normal (read: INTENSE) PvP or ZvZ over macro TvT anytime. 45 minutes of similar production, that ends up in a huge explosion that last for 10-20secs. Except what you describe is not how TvT has ever worked in SC2, like, at all. TvT has always been about frequent skirmishes for positional advantage all over the map and occasional big battles that rarely actually end the game because defender's advantage is so strong in TvT. This has become even more the case since the metagame moved away from marine/tank and into more mech play. | ||
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jakoh
Canada237 Posts
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adalcim
Germany166 Posts
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
On September 01 2011 01:50 babylon wrote: Well, Huk did say that he wanted MVP to 1/1/1 because he thought he knew the counter. Maybe MVP was just obliging him. Exactly. The guy got what he asked for - what more can you ask.  )) | ||
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Raidern
Brazil3821 Posts
GSL history he said Jinro had 2 top4, thats still better than anything Huk did that's how things work, right? when you compare 'history' you don't compare subjectively, thinking that the level is higher now than before. you just care about numbers, and jinro's numbers are better. | ||
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lizzard_warish
589 Posts
On September 01 2011 01:55 Qaatar wrote: He said 1-1-1 players should be banned, what the fuck. Asking or not hes doing an activity he thinks so unfair, and is so confident that its unfair, that it was at least enough for him in exasperation to say it should be removed through tournament rules. Being asked to do something in your own mind so imbalanced doesnt exactly undue the hypocrisy, like, whatsoever in anyway...Exactly. The guy got what he asked for - what more can you ask. )) | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On September 01 2011 02:05 lizzard_warish wrote: He said 1-1-1 players should be banned, what the fuck. Asking or not hes doing an activity he thinks so unfair, and is so confident that its unfair, that it was at least enough for him in exasperation to say it should be removed through tournament rules. Being asked to do something in your own mind so imbalanced doesnt exactly undue the hypocrisy, like, whatsoever in anyway... So what? Huk wanted MVP to 1/1/1 him, and MVP was nice enough to grant his wish, even at the risk of ruining his own reputation and looking like a hypocrite and possibly dropping a game given that Huk said that he knew how to hold it off. That's what I call self-sacrifice, man. What an amazing guy. | ||
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wintergt
Belgium1335 Posts
On August 31 2011 21:26 Micket wrote: Coca looked helpless vs Bomber and Nestea-Bomber wasn't exactly close. Nestea put up a better fight vs MVP than DRG did. At least nestea managed to max out first and have equal bases. MVP DRG was just over on a macro perspective alone. It spawned probably the funniest game ever. How Bomber kept dissing DRG was crazy. Spamming 5 mules in the middle of the map when the game was far from decided, and he kept this up now and then. Bunkering up the middle with multiple Planetary Fortresses. Doing 5 scans on top of each-other for no reason. Scanning his own army multiple times. Ghost nuking. Did I forget anything? Just.. amazing. | ||
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
On September 01 2011 02:05 lizzard_warish wrote: He said 1-1-1 players should be banned, what the fuck. Asking or not hes doing an activity he thinks so unfair, and is so confident that its unfair, that it was at least enough for him in exasperation to say it should be removed through tournament rules. Being asked to do something in your own mind so imbalanced doesnt exactly undue the hypocrisy, like, whatsoever in anyway... I think the "banned" part was not to be taken seriously - Milkis has reiterated this many times now. Read both Huk's and MVP's interviews: MVP: Q: You've said some things about Terran balance on Twitter recently. (laughs) A: 1-1-1 is very strong. Because it has a lot of applications, it's really powerful. It's extremely difficult for Protoss. Even though it's really strong, I've rejected the 1-1-1 and don't use it in my games. (laughs) Fans have a lot of different reactions to the 1-1-1, but players can't help it. Don't progamers have to win? You have to understand how important it is. [T/N unsure on this last sentence, sorry. seems like MVP admits it is strong but thinks fan backlash is a little too harsh] Huk: Terran’s 1-1-1 build is quite controversial at the moment, what do you think about it? Terran’s 1-1-1 build is quite easy to execute and also has a large win rate. However, I had already made a solution to it few months ago when it was popular. I sometimes lose to it but only when you make mistakes and lose important units, but if you play near perfect first 10-15 minutes you should win automatically as well. Other protoss players should be able to counter it as well. I hope this statement don’t develop into a controversy as it may sound more cocky then it is. Huk: MVP said that 1-1-1 is a very strong build. I really hope he uses it to me (laughs). | ||
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