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Stop with the stupid TT1 discussion, this topic is no place for it and you can all express your likes and dislikes in a more respectful and constructive manner. ~Nyovne
bluestuff
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada893 Posts
August 31 2011 18:19 GMT
#3541
August is the month for July
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
August 31 2011 18:20 GMT
#3542
so wait..Huk makes it to the ro8 for the first time and gets slapped..and somehow he is the best foreigner in the GSL..iirc, the best foreigner with the most success in the GSL is currently jinro.
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
August 31 2011 18:24 GMT
#3543
On August 31 2011 13:02 SidianTheBard wrote:

Although, I think MVP is going to crush HuK 3-0.
July vs Ryung will be much closer and could easily go 3-2 either way. Although I'm rooting for July to win.

Sooo.

MVP 3-0 HuK
July 3-2 Ryung



Haha, good call. I'm glad july won, all terran is boring. And for some reason, though I am a terran player, I always find myself rooting for zerg players.
=)=
rareh
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal298 Posts
August 31 2011 18:28 GMT
#3544
On September 01 2011 03:20 Sc2Null wrote:
so wait..Huk makes it to the ro8 for the first time and gets slapped..and somehow he is the best foreigner in the GSL..iirc, the best foreigner with the most success in the GSL is currently jinro.


Jinro did that in the past(2 ro4), now he cannot even make it past ro32 in code A and cannot even make it past open bracket in MLG.


Don't get me wrong, Jinro is still a good player, really nice guy and i enjoy watching his stream(big fan).

When people say Huk is the best foreigner in GSL, they mean currently, not 6 months ago, not 1 year in the future.
kineticSYN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States909 Posts
August 31 2011 18:33 GMT
#3545
On September 01 2011 02:18 Ranir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 02:13 kineticSYN wrote:
you guys are taking that fucking tweet way too serious and forgetting the ending of it, where he states progamers gotta do what it takes to win

they're progamers, they get paid to fucking win, hop off the "everything terran does to win is imba" train and think further

and to clarify on the build...

"the 1/1/1" that you're all batshit scared of (and for good reason of course) is comprised of the following:

marines
tanks
banshees
raven (optional)

so now you're calling it a 1/1/1 when they do marine tank medivac, marine tank and no starport at all, marine tank, marine anything, expand and do anything, they're fucking teching up to what they need

in the series vs huk this morning:

game 1 was a marine tank push that shits on 1gate FE -> robo, scouted and countered. might have been predetermined cuz its a strong push, but it was a build order loss for huk since he didn't have anything to stop it due to FE/going robo instead of more gateways

game 2 was a psuedo allin based on reaction (seemingly, cant say for sure cuz im not mvp), he countered the void ray and saw huk had no chance of stopping him from winning right then and there, and thats what he did

by the way, again no banshee/raven

game 3 was the macro game that didnt involve tanks or banshees or anything in the terran arsenal that you guys (protoss) bitch about. oh wait, you bitch about anything a terran does. mule op, scan op, marine op, medivac op, FE op, bunker op, marine op, omfg he has a factory and a starport even tho factory is floating to scout, its 1/1/1!!!!!!!!!!!! oh forgot to mention marauder op

macro game happened, huk played poorly and mvp played near perfect, the result was completely expected and justified

game ended with mvp having completed his 6th base (gold at that), while huk was on 2

jesus christ you all need to settle down with just constantly jumping back to that tweet

How about yourself down. Why do you say you guys(Protoss) like if everyone was thinking what you just said? That's just retarded.


i'm addressing the "omfg 1/1/1" shit that everyone and their mothers keeps spouting the instant they see a factory. and i'm not specifically talking about protoss, although most of the whining comes from them, there are several zerg and terrans that say "lost respect for mvp due to 1/1/1" and all that nonsense

oh no, he built structures that are required to tech, he's doing 1/1/1 allin

^ that's what i'm addressing

he didn't use the 1/1/1 allin (THAT POLT SHOWCASED FIRST VS MC WAY BACK IN OPEN SEASONS, used to be known as the "polt timing attack") a single time

i'm just trying to clarify on builds, less intelligent people keep jumping to "omg 1/1/1 allin" and that just irritates me
IMMvp #1 :)
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
August 31 2011 18:35 GMT
#3546
On September 01 2011 03:28 rareh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 03:20 Sc2Null wrote:
so wait..Huk makes it to the ro8 for the first time and gets slapped..and somehow he is the best foreigner in the GSL..iirc, the best foreigner with the most success in the GSL is currently jinro.


Jinro did that in the past(2 ro4), now he cannot even make it past ro32 in code A and cannot even make it past open bracket in MLG.


Don't get me wrong, Jinro is still a good player, really nice guy and i enjoy watching his stream(big fan).

When people say Huk is the best foreigner in GSL, they mean currently, not 6 months ago, not 1 year in the future.


Isn't he the ONLY foreigner in the GSL..and thats because mma failed a 1/1/1
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
August 31 2011 18:37 GMT
#3547
On August 31 2011 21:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 19:50 PHILtheTANK wrote:
FUUUUCK man i jujt psnet an hour and a half trying to explain to my friend why koreans are better than us at SC2. I also had to buy lik e 20 energy drinks and 2 handles to keep them up for this fginal. Im so fuckings sad that hud lost. I was really hopeing hed becomeie the first to wina the fucking gsl who has white skin. lol now there talking about terminator and ajohn connor and skynet, which actually just acam online a few months ago. fuck man i wish i couls watch this on my phone but theres no fucking app for droids to watcsh gsl, instead im stucka here atr the computer. man fuck ryung. i hope july 3winas and beatgs mvp, anbd everyone else, because now that hugds gone this si super gay. fuck all these idiots. julys like super fat ut hes like super fast. i think thats awesome, hes clearly like awesome. if i was that fat and that fastt i would totaly praticiapte in that mlg relay race. i bet he lie shovels rice in his m out like those sumos from that movie three ninjjnas. thats how i found out japanese people just shovel rice ain and i stopped carring about table maners. fuck table manners who cares hnow u eat. that shit is reicicuolous. ma n thi shit shoul d be earlier. all the alcohol is gone and thers no more fun to be had. i cant even awatch this. artosis is making me rthorw up in my mouytnh. we should clearly ahve this shit at 2 pm so i dont ahvae to resoprot to this. but nayway fuck ya. i love gsl. i love sc2. and liall alwayz root for the white dues cuz thats twejhres its at. fuck them koeranz( EVEN THO THOUS HOW I LOVE THEM THYRE AMAZING) L i want them americans and candaians. and skandanavians, and russians, and w/e sles to win some stuff, cuz they aply hard to. honesty why doenat liquor stponsor gsl. who can satay up this late whiaout be3ing drunk. fuck sl time they hould ha e it when iw ant it. all right. go foreightners fuck mvp, fuck most peope, i hope july wins this, cuz hes fat andaeseomse.


Just went through the LR. Forgot to follow it because I was listening to SotG.
And even though SotG was hilarious once again. This post trumps it all.



Oh my god, that poster really needs to be given a star. I laughed so hard at that.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
August 31 2011 18:42 GMT
#3548
People can hate on MVP all they want, but in my eyes, he's the best player in the world.
IVN
Profile Joined October 2010
534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 18:49:47
August 31 2011 18:48 GMT
#3549
On September 01 2011 02:28 Mohdoo wrote:


I'm a huge fan of HuK, but people are letting themselves be fanboys. HuK isn't anywhere near the level of MVP and these games made that really clear. Even disregarding the first 2 games, MVP manhandled HuK in game 3. Outplayed, outsmarted...Just plain wrecked.

He didnt outsmart or outplay him in game 3.

What he did do, is demolish Huk in the previous 2 games, with imbalanced* all ins, so that Huk had to play ultra safe in game 3. And since the threat of an additional all in game makes you play defensive and safe (so you can hardly put any pressure on your opponent), MVP abused that, by playing ultra greedy.


*4gt doesnt beat it, nor do 3gt robo or 3gt stargate. And there is no other possibility for protoss to get even more units out.
kineticSYN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States909 Posts
August 31 2011 18:55 GMT
#3550
On September 01 2011 03:48 IVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 02:28 Mohdoo wrote:


I'm a huge fan of HuK, but people are letting themselves be fanboys. HuK isn't anywhere near the level of MVP and these games made that really clear. Even disregarding the first 2 games, MVP manhandled HuK in game 3. Outplayed, outsmarted...Just plain wrecked.

He didnt outsmart or outplay him in game 3.

What he did do, is demolish Huk in the previous 2 games, with imbalanced* all ins, so that Huk had to play ultra safe in game 3. And since the threat of an additional all in game makes you play defensive and safe (so you can hardly put any pressure on your opponent), MVP abused that, by playing ultra greedy.


*4gt doesnt beat it, nor do 3gt robo or 3gt stargate. And there is no other possibility for protoss to get even more units out.


losing multiple stalkers to marines when he shouldnt have
having colossi chillin in the middle with no stalker support and lose a bulk of them to vikings for free

no no, terran is imbalanced, huk didnt make any mistakes and played super safe and deserved to win, we all know huk is matched with mvp calibre player

/sarcasm
IMMvp #1 :)
HansK
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
249 Posts
August 31 2011 19:00 GMT
#3551
On September 01 2011 03:48 IVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 02:28 Mohdoo wrote:


I'm a huge fan of HuK, but people are letting themselves be fanboys. HuK isn't anywhere near the level of MVP and these games made that really clear. Even disregarding the first 2 games, MVP manhandled HuK in game 3. Outplayed, outsmarted...Just plain wrecked.

He didnt outsmart or outplay him in game 3.

What he did do, is demolish Huk in the previous 2 games, with imbalanced* all ins, so that Huk had to play ultra safe in game 3. And since the threat of an additional all in game makes you play defensive and safe (so you can hardly put any pressure on your opponent), MVP abused that, by playing ultra greedy.


*4gt doesnt beat it, nor do 3gt robo or 3gt stargate. And there is no other possibility for protoss to get even more units out.


3 gate stargate if you scout it with your first phoenix crushes 1-1-1. Speed lot phoenix just destroys it if you scout.

I'll be willing to bet paypal on matches with me against 1-1-1 stargate phoenix. Anyone who thinks it can't be held has downsyndrome.

One gate robo holds it as well but you need to pull 4-10 probes depending on the scvs they pull. The only reason to lose to this build is you don't build early scouts and blindly expand.
MrSalamandra
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom412 Posts
August 31 2011 19:03 GMT
#3552
On September 01 2011 03:48 IVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 02:28 Mohdoo wrote:


I'm a huge fan of HuK, but people are letting themselves be fanboys. HuK isn't anywhere near the level of MVP and these games made that really clear. Even disregarding the first 2 games, MVP manhandled HuK in game 3. Outplayed, outsmarted...Just plain wrecked.

He didnt outsmart or outplay him in game 3.

What he did do, is demolish Huk in the previous 2 games, with imbalanced* all ins, so that Huk had to play ultra safe in game 3. And since the threat of an additional all in game makes you play defensive and safe (so you can hardly put any pressure on your opponent), MVP abused that, by playing ultra greedy.


*4gt doesnt beat it, nor do 3gt robo or 3gt stargate. And there is no other possibility for protoss to get even more units out.


You do know... that Mvp didn't do the 1/1/1 marine/tank/banshee build, right? What he actually did was just Marine/Tank and in the second game Marine/Tank/Medivac.

Also HuK's build in game 2 (Stargate which made 1 failed void ray, Robo which made I think nothing but observers, Twilight Council which I don't think did anything at all before the game ended) was hardly a strong one.
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada949 Posts
August 31 2011 19:24 GMT
#3553
Even being a huge Huk fan, I think it's fair to say MVP completely deserved that win. Awesome games from my main man July as well.
Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 19:50:25
August 31 2011 19:49 GMT
#3554
On September 01 2011 03:48 IVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 02:28 Mohdoo wrote:


I'm a huge fan of HuK, but people are letting themselves be fanboys. HuK isn't anywhere near the level of MVP and these games made that really clear. Even disregarding the first 2 games, MVP manhandled HuK in game 3. Outplayed, outsmarted...Just plain wrecked.

He didnt outsmart or outplay him in game 3.

What he did do, is demolish Huk in the previous 2 games, with imbalanced* all ins, so that Huk had to play ultra safe in game 3. And since the threat of an additional all in game makes you play defensive and safe (so you can hardly put any pressure on your opponent), MVP abused that, by playing ultra greedy.


*4gt doesnt beat it, nor do 3gt robo or 3gt stargate. And there is no other possibility for protoss to get even more units out.


So what you're saying is that in game 3 mvp outpredicted huk, sounds like the definition of outsmarting to me.

But in the anti-terran biased point of view, it means "abusing the threat of another build"
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
August 31 2011 19:50 GMT
#3555
I don't think most mazcro erg mestea included can't beat MVP in a straight up solid macro game unless they reach brood/infestors. MVP is playing 2-3 levels above everyone except Nestea(They are strong in their own good matchup).

However, there is Julyzerg. The thing is he is so random and attack at such random times that you really count him out of anything like his games versus nada. I don't think Nada was ever able to do a siege tank push because he was always attacked in the center of the map. I remember the two games that he played that knocked MVP out. Game 1 was so memorible. He was attacked by terran and lost a lot of drones and units but wiped out MVP's army. Most zergs in this case goes into heavy drone production because terran can't push for a while. However July just went f it, make 30 lings and some mutas and crushed MVP.

minru
Profile Joined August 2010
United States78 Posts
August 31 2011 19:50 GMT
#3556
On September 01 2011 04:03 MrSalamandra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 03:48 IVN wrote:
On September 01 2011 02:28 Mohdoo wrote:


I'm a huge fan of HuK, but people are letting themselves be fanboys. HuK isn't anywhere near the level of MVP and these games made that really clear. Even disregarding the first 2 games, MVP manhandled HuK in game 3. Outplayed, outsmarted...Just plain wrecked.

He didnt outsmart or outplay him in game 3.

What he did do, is demolish Huk in the previous 2 games, with imbalanced* all ins, so that Huk had to play ultra safe in game 3. And since the threat of an additional all in game makes you play defensive and safe (so you can hardly put any pressure on your opponent), MVP abused that, by playing ultra greedy.


*4gt doesnt beat it, nor do 3gt robo or 3gt stargate. And there is no other possibility for protoss to get even more units out.


You do know... that Mvp didn't do the 1/1/1 marine/tank/banshee build, right? What he actually did was just Marine/Tank and in the second game Marine/Tank/Medivac.

Also HuK's build in game 2 (Stargate which made 1 failed void ray, Robo which made I think nothing but observers, Twilight Council which I don't think did anything at all before the game ended) was hardly a strong one.


Game 1 wasn't 1/1/1, but Game 2 was definitely 1/1/1. Just because he canceled the banshee and made viking/medivac doesn't mean its not Barrack, Factory, Starport.

People hating MVP for using 1/1/1 are just being arrogant. At least MVP admit that it's an imbalanced build, but he's playing SC2 for a living so he's gotta do whatever it takes to win. I wonder if people would still hate on MVP if he didn't admit 1/1/1 was OP and this was vs some random Protoss.

mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 31 2011 19:55 GMT
#3557
On September 01 2011 04:24 Little-Chimp wrote:
Even being a huge Huk fan, I think it's fair to say MVP completely deserved that win. Awesome games from my main man July as well.

I would say it was more of a Huk didnt deserve it last night. MVP played 1 game that I was impressed with in the 3rd game and the other two were just wins over someone having a bad day. The last one was a depressing show by Huk also. Im not making a comment on whether Huk would win on a good day but it would have been much closer.
Tisp
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada209 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 19:57:22
August 31 2011 19:57 GMT
#3558
On August 31 2011 19:50 PHILtheTANK wrote:
FUUUUCK man i jujt psnet an hour and a half trying to explain to my friend why koreans are better than us at SC2. I also had to buy lik e 20 energy drinks and 2 handles to keep them up for this fginal. Im so fuckings sad that hud lost. I was really hopeing hed becomeie the first to wina the fucking gsl who has white skin. lol now there talking about terminator and ajohn connor and skynet, which actually just acam online a few months ago. fuck man i wish i couls watch this on my phone but theres no fucking app for droids to watcsh gsl, instead im stucka here atr the computer. man fuck ryung. i hope july 3winas and beatgs mvp, anbd everyone else, because now that hugds gone this si super gay. fuck all these idiots. julys like super fat ut hes like super fast. i think thats awesome, hes clearly like awesome. if i was that fat and that fastt i would totaly praticiapte in that mlg relay race. i bet he lie shovels rice in his m out like those sumos from that movie three ninjjnas. thats how i found out japanese people just shovel rice ain and i stopped carring about table maners. fuck table manners who cares hnow u eat. that shit is reicicuolous. ma n thi shit shoul d be earlier. all the alcohol is gone and thers no more fun to be had. i cant even awatch this. artosis is making me rthorw up in my mouytnh. we should clearly ahve this shit at 2 pm so i dont ahvae to resoprot to this. but nayway fuck ya. i love gsl. i love sc2. and liall alwayz root for the white dues cuz thats twejhres its at. fuck them koeranz( EVEN THO THOUS HOW I LOVE THEM THYRE AMAZING) L i want them americans and candaians. and skandanavians, and russians, and w/e sles to win some stuff, cuz they aply hard to. honesty why doenat liquor stponsor gsl. who can satay up this late whiaout be3ing drunk. fuck sl time they hould ha e it when iw ant it. all right. go foreightners fuck mvp, fuck most peope, i hope july wins this, cuz hes fat andaeseomse.


Wow. I really hope this guy wasn't banned. That was an epic rant. Poor Huk but I agree with PhiltheTANK, Lets go July!
IVN
Profile Joined October 2010
534 Posts
August 31 2011 19:57 GMT
#3559
On September 01 2011 04:03 MrSalamandra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 03:48 IVN wrote:
On September 01 2011 02:28 Mohdoo wrote:


I'm a huge fan of HuK, but people are letting themselves be fanboys. HuK isn't anywhere near the level of MVP and these games made that really clear. Even disregarding the first 2 games, MVP manhandled HuK in game 3. Outplayed, outsmarted...Just plain wrecked.

He didnt outsmart or outplay him in game 3.

What he did do, is demolish Huk in the previous 2 games, with imbalanced* all ins, so that Huk had to play ultra safe in game 3. And since the threat of an additional all in game makes you play defensive and safe (so you can hardly put any pressure on your opponent), MVP abused that, by playing ultra greedy.


*4gt doesnt beat it, nor do 3gt robo or 3gt stargate. And there is no other possibility for protoss to get even more units out.


You do know... that Mvp didn't do the 1/1/1 marine/tank/banshee build, right? What he actually did was just Marine/Tank and in the second game Marine/Tank/Medivac.

Also HuK's build in game 2 (Stargate which made 1 failed void ray, Robo which made I think nothing but observers, Twilight Council which I don't think did anything at all before the game ended) was hardly a strong one.

I didnt write, that it was a 111, did I?

The simple thing is, >20 marines backed up by tanks destroy any composition that protoss have, and the push hits before colossi can be made.

Ergo, imbalanced.
IMNotMvp
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)530 Posts
August 31 2011 20:00 GMT
#3560
aww... huk... you only can beat mvp on ladder T_T
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