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Please keep the following things out of this topic: -Caster/Stream/player bashing; -Imbalance/race whine; -LoL vs the world arguments; -'Omfg cant believe people aren't watching SPL finals' comments; -any other assorted offtopic negativism and arguments. Enjoy this free multiday/multigame event that has been provided to you. Share your enthusiasm for the games! Feel free to shoot me a PM or query me on IRC for any questions or comments. Have fun! ~Nyovne [special edit: Any more derailing over the fact that someone made a Germany vs Poland WW2 joke after page 21 will be met with a week ban.] | ||
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Spicy Pepper
United States632 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:59 Zaclye wrote: nay sayers need to give credit to puma...the deserved the win... and played great show some respect to puma pls. -_- I think everyone respects the 1/1/1. Look at all the attention it's getting ITT. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15394 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:59 Zaclye wrote: nay sayers need to give credit to puma...the deserved the win... and played great show some respect to puma pls. -_- He didn't play well enough to win the nerd baller award  I think of it as a subtle hint that Puma doesn't win the support of the spectators through his play. MC is still the winner in the community's eyes =) | ||
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StatikKhaos
United States214 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:53 chatuka wrote: It's not as if Puma didn't make mistakes either. 1st game. Puma did a silly 1/1/1 that got countered hard... MC should have won game won.. but didn't. 2nd game. Puma never was able to harass with marines, He even lost quite a few to marine drops. Economically Puma never matched MC in game two, in which MC should have won again. Puma got lucky. 3rd game.. MC did something crazy desperate and lost. It's not if Puma was the amazing player today. It's more like MC screwing things up for himself. Which could be to his lost psychological confidence that he usually has. Puma is in his head. that is disrupting MC's play. 1.MC had to many immortals during the second push so he lost 2. The upgrades in the last big fight were 1-1 for toss and 3-2 for Terran, they terran will ALWAYS win that (and also there was a warp prism with 2 full energy templars that got sniped) but really it came down to the fact that puma had a crazy upgrade advantage 3. Puma just out played MC, and Puma won Puma never "got lucky" he had better control, amazing decision making, and (in game 2) way better upgrades...so luck had nothing to do with it | ||
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Dr.Sin
Canada1126 Posts
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Gatored
United States679 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:53 asdads wrote: For those who say MC did everything right and terran is IMBA just remember that Mana 2-0 Puma. Just remember that PuMa did NOT 1/1/1 all-in MaNa. Ok? | ||
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
Btw, i actually missed most of the games today. Was their anything interesting to learn about TvP in the matches today? And if so will vods/replays be up? | ||
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Uliking
Turkey15 Posts
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PBG
40 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:58 lotny wrote: So much drama over one set of games. just a bunch of nerds qqing over stuff that despite having a huge warning sign at the top of every page of this thread continue to do so anyway SC2 getting popular in the west is a double edged sword. Good for seeing more competitive play but it brings out the worst in people too with all the whining and qqing | ||
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:59 chatuka wrote: how can people still defend Puma here. I can't say. he didn't play that great IMO and got lucky. MC played even worse and paid the price. I've never seen MC play that badly before. As for the race balance, i'll trust blizzard and the maps to fix that problem. as for personalities. Puma is boring, unattractive, and Disreputable with TSL I don't dislike EG BTW MC: Brash, Bold, Competant player who makes bad mistakes against rival opponents. Perhaps him drinking less soda will help him think more clearly. Who are you going to root for.. obviously the boss Protoss. I don't root for the players personality. I root for players games. And puma played the better game. | ||
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Provocateur
Sweden1665 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:58 lotny wrote: So much drama over one set of games. Indeed, can't really determine the state of PvT balance only based on these games. I'm a bit disappointed in these games as well but that's no reason to jump into a balance discussion. People will figure out what to do about it eventually. | ||
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Whiteman103
United States1070 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:59 chatuka wrote: how can people still defend Puma here. I can't say. he didn't play that great IMO and got lucky. MC played even worse and paid the price. I've never seen MC play that badly before. As for the race balance, i'll trust blizzard and the maps to fix that problem. as for personalities. Puma is boring, unattractive, and Disreputable with TSL I don't dislike EG BTW MC: Brash, Bold, Competant player who makes bad mistakes against rival opponents. Perhaps him drinking less soda will help him think more clearly. Who are you going to root for.. obviously the boss Protoss. those are all your opinions | ||
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xbankx
703 Posts
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eggs
1011 Posts
On August 22 2011 03:00 Zorgaz wrote: Amazing that no matter who wins there is always countless pages stating that the victors race is OP and the losers race is UP?! Btw, i actually missed most of the games today. Was their anything interesting to learn about TvP in the matches today? And if so will vods/replays be up? nobody said that for IdrA vs Sheth. | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:54 dmnum wrote: what was that third person shooting game they just displayed? Yeah I wonder this too, it looked so weird with wall jumping and shit. | ||
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morningbreeze
United States26 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:55 forgottendreams wrote: Are people still going on about this? PuMa saw MC was going for a heavy gateway centric force with slow upgrades in order to mass units. Puma just went for the polar opposite of quick tech, mass infrastructure and faster upgrades to counter his army later. To say puma was outmacroed that game shows people have little understanding of the top tier aspects of this game. Exactly. Are people under the impression that comparing supply counts is the final word in sc2 analysis? Puma's major strategic decision that game was to set up an upgrade-heavy lategame army. MC took multiple oddly-placed expansions just when said army was designed to materialize, instead of riding his advantageous engagements from the early game. I don't think Puma played like a god, but he was never given a reason to diverge from his plan. | ||
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Razuik
United States409 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:59 krews wrote: how do you learn something that isnt possible Okay, keep up with that mentality... I look forward to you "wait for the patch to roll out" people to quit the game already. If you don't want to learn how to be better, don't play starcraft. | ||
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Warrice
United States565 Posts
the thing is that mc's higher tech unjits did nothing in the fight. so it was basically low tech units vs low tech units with better upgrades and medivacs., he didnt get any good storms off in the fight. protoss that opens colossus and then go into high templar do fine. look at mana, that dude NEVER LOSES PVT EVER. he even 2-0d puma. stop feeling sorry for yourselves. its just sad. | ||
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Spicy Pepper
United States632 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:59 ronpaul012 wrote: Stepping away from 1-1-1, I'll talk about game 2. Really think blizzard may need to bring amulet back again. As we saw there, they traded armys at first both going down to around 120 supply. However bio ball+ghosts easily reinforced again, where as gateways + ht's couldn't re-inforce. Main reason is that it would be stupid to get more ht's who would be useless against terran for the next minute. So he attempts to gets mass chargelots stalkers but just gets rolled. Yup, make it more expensive or take longer to upgrade. But please bring it back. Watching San explore that style was so interesting, and terran was never given the time to discover a metagame counter. | ||
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Razuik
United States409 Posts
On August 22 2011 03:01 Bleak wrote: Yeah I wonder this too, it looked so weird with wall jumping and shit. I think it might have been Brink, not sure though. | ||
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PrimeTimey
Canada369 Posts
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