EPTOn August 22 2011 03:00 Gatored wrote:
Just remember that PuMa did NOT 1/1/1 all-in MaNa. Ok?
Just remember that PuMa did NOT 1/1/1 all-in MaNa. Ok?
Doesn't change the fact that he outplayed Puma
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netsky4
Austria511 Posts
Doesn't change the fact that he outplayed Puma | ||
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skyrunner
371 Posts
On August 22 2011 02:51 oogieogie wrote: The bolds are just so ridiculously bias i won't even deal with them. Also i was just bringing up a point where no race should complain about builds till sc2 is longer so we have more "BW balance". ps: my post is for the first person Yeah that's the way to argue and discuss things right? Just say "I won't even deal with issues x, y and z" and then continue on also ignoring issue a,b and c. Do you actually mean that blink stalker all-ins are used in pvz as often as 1/1/1 in pvt? Do you actually say that a scouted blink stalker is nigh on impossible to stop? Or are you saying that 1/1/1 is not hard to stop once you know it's coming? Actually you are saying all of those things, and you're wrong. How many times does a player know that 1/1/1 is coming and still fail to stop it? Every god damn time. 'Also i was just bringing up a point where no race should complain about builds till sc2 is longer so we have more "BW balance". ' what the... what does this even mean? if that would have been the reasoning back in beta... ahah im not even gonna end that sentence. I think you know yourself how ridiculous that statement is. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15732 Posts
100 patches ago. -_- | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 22 2011 03:04 hmunkey wrote: Nestea and IdrA both say protoss is overpowered against zerg, but you don't give them the time of day. We could play this game forever. I need the quote where Nestea says protoss are OP. After the infestor buff, if you don't mind. | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
![[image loading]](http://static.wellplayed.org/channels/Morrow/Morrow_thumb.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://images.wikia.com/starcraft/images/c/c5/Reaper_SC2_DevGame1.png) | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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powerdawg96
United States129 Posts
On August 22 2011 03:05 SafeAsCheese wrote: Anyone reminded of IEM last year? lol we have come a long way | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
1. Puma DID play better than MC, make no mistake 2. Game 2 was the only decent one out of them all, it's sad it came out to one huge micro mistake, with those 6 storms the game would have been completely different, since it would have bought time for upgrades to complete. 3. Games 1 and 3 were lackluster and terrible, Game 1 in particular was deppressing, since MC defended the first push so so well, but then the second one came and he just wasn't prepared correctly, I think he was a bit angry about it, since he lost all his patience. 4. Game 3 was just as ridiculous, MC didn't lose earlier only because he sniped the first raven, the game was lost pretty much the minute 1-1-1 was in effect 5. All in all, 1-1-1 needs to be nerfed badly, it's destroying the TvP metagame (Balance should be made thinking in the best players, and in KR 1-1-1 situation is pretty terrible). 6. MC was so damn sad  User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
On August 22 2011 03:02 Zorgaz wrote: Trolling? How could any1 whine about inbalance in a mirror matchup xdAre you kidding? One baneling kills like 10 zerglings, its obviously imba | ||
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
On August 22 2011 03:01 Provocateur wrote: Indeed, can't really determine the state of PvT balance only based on these games. I'm a bit disappointed in these games as well but that's no reason to jump into a balance discussion. People will figure out what to do about it eventually. It's not just these games. People have been saying this for over a month now since the 1-1-1 and utilized by terrans across the board. There is simply no responce to the 1-1-1 since recent balance patches and there won't be until a new patch arises. | ||
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flowSthead
1065 Posts
The entire game it felt like Puma wasn't being punished for his mistakes, whereas MC's smaller mistakes lost him the game. The frustrating thing is how much bigger of a deal it is to make mistakes on the Protoss side. I think I finally know what it feels like to be a Zerg. | ||
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s3183529
Australia707 Posts
On August 22 2011 03:04 hmunkey wrote: Nestea and IdrA both say protoss is overpowered against zerg, but you don't give them the time of day. We could play this game forever. Lol, this is Zerg and Terran say a Terran's build OP. Anyway, Toss OP was in the past, and after the warpgate nerf and festor buff, spore buff, Toss not OP against Zerg anymore. Why would Blizz fix something for Zerg and not for Toss? Yeah, and it took BW 5-6 years to be balanced and SC2 1 year to be balanced? | ||
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sjschmidt93
United States2518 Posts
MC once said that if he played Terran he would have won GSL 3 times already. 2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply OrangeMilkis Wooju Lee "MC, I'm going to cheer for you from now on. Protoss just looked really pitiful. From today I'm going to cheer for Protoss" 2 minutes ago OrangeMilkis Wooju Lee "MC you should just seriously play Terran. You'll definitely be a top Terran with your skill. Protoss does not have any answers." 4 minutes ago | ||
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Gatored
United States679 Posts
On August 22 2011 03:04 hmunkey wrote: Nestea and IdrA both say protoss is overpowered against zerg, but you don't give them the time of day. We could play this game forever. NesTea says protoss is imbalanced? He has like an 87% win ratio vs protoss. You have a source to where he says this? | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On August 22 2011 03:04 Plansix wrote: You forget that 1-1-1 looks exactly like 2 port banshee, blue flame drops, thor-marine and every other one base terran build. They can even mix is up, go heavy tanks, heavy marines, get a raven or 2. All they need to do is scan and tweek their composition to deal with the protoss's. Expand later, get Colossus faster, cancel expo if you need to | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On August 22 2011 03:05 Telcontar wrote: Hate to use this cliché, but don't hate the player; hate the game. It's not Puma's fault that he's using the strongest strategy currently available to him. Yeah the 1/1/1 seems mighty strong right now, but that's not Puma's fault, and you really can't hold it against him for using it (especially on Xel'Naga & Metalopolis close air). I agree with this. I hate the 1-1-1 all-in, but I believe in playing to win, and PuMa did the right thing. And this is coming from someone who's favorite player is MC. | ||
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ronpaul012
United States769 Posts
On August 22 2011 03:05 Telcontar wrote: Hate to use this cliché, but don't hate the player; hate the game. It's not Puma's fault that he's using the strongest strategy currently available to him. Yeah the 1/1/1 seems mighty strong right now, but that's not Puma's fault, and you really can't hold it against him for using it (especially on Xel'Naga & Metalopolis close air). really? Because when toss used to 4gate he would get endless shit for it. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On August 22 2011 03:04 hmunkey wrote: Nestea and IdrA both say protoss is overpowered against zerg, but you don't give them the time of day. We could play this game forever. Complete and utter horseshit, lemme quote NesTea: "I don't understand why other zerg players complain so much about protoss, it's such an easy matchup" ... | ||
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DertoQq
France906 Posts
On August 22 2011 03:05 SafeAsCheese wrote: Anyone reminded of IEM last year? and a lot of people were saying that it wasn't imbalanced :D | ||
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PBG
40 Posts
try 4-5 months ago and there's been what? 1 patch maybe 2 patches of actual game changes since then. | ||
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