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[R&S] EG's Master's Cup Series Season VI League - Page 58

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Hey guys, be happy there is an awesome tournament with awesome prize money for a lot of good teams out there. Stop hating, its enough already.
redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1749 Posts
August 31 2011 03:17 GMT
#1141
On August 31 2011 12:14 ThreeActPlay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 12:13 redloser wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:10 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:07 redloser wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:03 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:00 Oboeman wrote:
On August 31 2011 11:58 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On August 31 2011 11:58 sAKecOkE wrote:
Haha Idra so bad
How is he still not anticipating/better preparing for this style after being beaten by it several times by Boxer at MLG...several weeks ago already?

If you're so good, why don't you think of a way to beat it?


leenock beat it by spreading creep and shooting down the medivac with queens while it unloaded.

Fruitdealer beat it by letting the marines land, then hitting them with banelings when the medivac picked up the hellions., so the marines had nowhere to go.

it's perfectly stoppable. idra just had no units and no scouting information, and no preparation.


Gee, that sounds like a great idea. Keep the queens off creep next to the edge of the base to shoot at medivacs. Sounds like a great way to keep macro up. Why would IdrA spread creep to the edge of his base first instead of connecting his main to his natural -- especially if he didn't think or know that it was coming? (And how was idra supposed to scout? Rain had 3 overlords at the edge of his base to kill overlords, and idra already wasted a few lings trying to run into the main to scout.)

IdrA's banelings were spotted by rain and he knew that they were coming (he moved his marines back to the edge, off creep) -- no chance for that kind of hold.

so what else?


IdrA saw it coming with his ovies floating at his base. Had he morphed just 3 banelings, he could've reacted right away when Rain was dropping marines, waited outside, and just kill them right away when Rain picked up BFHs. So, that was purely IdrA's bad. No excuses.

Edit : I mean if IdrA already had a few banelings.


he saw it coming...when the medivac was a couple of inches from dropping at his main. idra morphed banelings immediately, but rain moved up, saw them morphing, and moved back -- idra wasn't going to catch hellions or marines with slow banes off creep, sorry.


well I thought some people might say this, so i edited my comment what I meant was had IdrA already had 3~4 banelings when Rain moved his medivac into ovie's sight.

stop trying to make excuses for idra. BFH + marine drop isn't even close to 1/1/1. idra just messed up. he could've defended it.


read above post -- didnt say it was op


I didn't mean you said OP, I meant another people, so I didn't quote your comment. Sorry for the confusion. I just wanted to say that drop play was perfectly defendable.
ThreeActPlay
Profile Joined April 2011
United States249 Posts
August 31 2011 03:17 GMT
#1142
On August 31 2011 12:15 Tsuki.eu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 12:06 Entropic wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:03 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:00 Oboeman wrote:
On August 31 2011 11:58 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On August 31 2011 11:58 sAKecOkE wrote:
Haha Idra so bad
How is he still not anticipating/better preparing for this style after being beaten by it several times by Boxer at MLG...several weeks ago already?

If you're so good, why don't you think of a way to beat it?


leenock beat it by spreading creep and shooting down the medivac with queens while it unloaded.

Fruitdealer beat it by letting the marines land, then hitting them with banelings when the medivac picked up the hellions., so the marines had nowhere to go.

it's perfectly stoppable. idra just had no units and no scouting information, and no preparation.


Gee, that sounds like a great idea. Keep the queens off creep next to the edge of the base to shoot at medivacs. Sounds like a great way to keep macro up. Why would IdrA spread creep to the edge of his base first instead of connecting his main to his natural -- especially if he didn't think or know that it was coming? (And how was idra supposed to scout? Rain had 3 overlords at the edge of his base to kill overlords, and idra already wasted a few lings trying to run into the main to scout.)

IdrA's banelings were spotted by rain and he knew that they were coming (he moved his marines back to the edge, off creep) -- no chance for that kind of hold.

so what else?


Yea Leenock just got lucky when he rolled Boxer who tried the same strat twice vs him. /sarcasm



idra had no units when rains leaves his base with a reaper, 7 marines, 1medvac and 4 blue flames...how greedy can you be?

also letting him unload all the units in his base, thats not how you deal with that build.


zvt is all about being greedy -- that's why these early aggression builds work.. if you aren't ahead in economy, you lose the game
twitter.com/haethos
ThreeActPlay
Profile Joined April 2011
United States249 Posts
August 31 2011 03:18 GMT
#1143
On August 31 2011 12:16 snafoo wrote:
i love how idra fans always seem to think he dealt with something perfectly and the only reason he lost is because it's imbalanced.


it's not that i think he dealt with it perfectly, i'm saying that he was put in a bad position and (surprise!) it didn't work out. there wasn't anything wrong with his decision to leave (or no gg, whatever) and it doesn't mean that he sucks, like all the idra haters say
twitter.com/haethos
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
August 31 2011 03:22 GMT
#1144
Thanks for posting the results Doomsville! Just tuned in.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 31 2011 03:26 GMT
#1145
it appears that axslav's probes have unionized, and now nothing is getting accomplished. lol
redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1749 Posts
August 31 2011 03:27 GMT
#1146
yay! we get to see ace match!
itsTheSituatioN
Profile Joined June 2011
United States70 Posts
August 31 2011 03:28 GMT
#1147
lol why axslav and strifecro no gg? they got raped fair and square, so pitiful
stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
August 31 2011 03:28 GMT
#1148
rain/tt1 so boss, and whats up with the no gg's??? now axslave and strifeco too?
Inky87
Profile Joined January 2011
United States533 Posts
August 31 2011 03:28 GMT
#1149
Come on, Puma!
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
August 31 2011 03:28 GMT
#1150
PUMA VS RAIN!!! YES

Aggressive timing pushes vs the cautious meticulous player
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 31 2011 03:28 GMT
#1151
i think they may have created a rule not to talk during games to prevent spoilers. complete speculation though.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
August 31 2011 03:28 GMT
#1152
Oh thank god. Definitely looking forward to this.

Results:
+ Show Spoiler +
EG.PuMa <Xel'Naga Caverns> Fnatic.TT1 (1-0)
EG.PuMa <MLG Metalopolis> Fnatic.TT1 (2-0)

EG.DeMusliM <MLG Shakuras Plateau> Fnatic.KawaiiRice (1-0)
EG.DeMusliM <MLG Dual Sight> Fnatic.KawaiiRice (2-0)

EG.IdrA <iCCup Testbug> Fnatic.Rain (0-1)
EG.IdrA <MLG Metalopolis> Fnatic.Rain (0-2)

EG.Axslav & EG.Strifecro <Scorched Haven> Fnatic.TT1 & Fnatic.Rain (0-2)
EG.Axslav & EG.Strifecro <Monlyth Ridge> Fnatic.TT1 & Fnatic.Rain (0-2)

EG.PuMa <MLG Metalopolis> Fnatic.Rain
maximuspita
Profile Joined April 2010
1093 Posts
August 31 2011 03:29 GMT
#1153
What's with EG not gg'ing?
Korean Air, please save Fox.
vladimir420
Profile Joined August 2011
Russian Federation16 Posts
August 31 2011 03:30 GMT
#1154
wow I thought for sure fanatic wasn't going to get past EGs big three, puma, demuslim and idra but here they are in the ace match.
Mainland
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada551 Posts
August 31 2011 03:30 GMT
#1155
It'd be nice if the teams pick coordinating colors. It's a bit confusing have a light blue protoss on one team and a dark blue protoss on the other.

I think something like blue/purple vs orange/yellow would work better.
Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
August 31 2011 03:31 GMT
#1156
On August 31 2011 12:17 ThreeActPlay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 12:15 Tsuki.eu wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:06 Entropic wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:03 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On August 31 2011 12:00 Oboeman wrote:
On August 31 2011 11:58 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On August 31 2011 11:58 sAKecOkE wrote:
Haha Idra so bad
How is he still not anticipating/better preparing for this style after being beaten by it several times by Boxer at MLG...several weeks ago already?

If you're so good, why don't you think of a way to beat it?


leenock beat it by spreading creep and shooting down the medivac with queens while it unloaded.

Fruitdealer beat it by letting the marines land, then hitting them with banelings when the medivac picked up the hellions., so the marines had nowhere to go.

it's perfectly stoppable. idra just had no units and no scouting information, and no preparation.


Gee, that sounds like a great idea. Keep the queens off creep next to the edge of the base to shoot at medivacs. Sounds like a great way to keep macro up. Why would IdrA spread creep to the edge of his base first instead of connecting his main to his natural -- especially if he didn't think or know that it was coming? (And how was idra supposed to scout? Rain had 3 overlords at the edge of his base to kill overlords, and idra already wasted a few lings trying to run into the main to scout.)

IdrA's banelings were spotted by rain and he knew that they were coming (he moved his marines back to the edge, off creep) -- no chance for that kind of hold.

so what else?


Yea Leenock just got lucky when he rolled Boxer who tried the same strat twice vs him. /sarcasm



idra had no units when rains leaves his base with a reaper, 7 marines, 1medvac and 4 blue flames...how greedy can you be?

also letting him unload all the units in his base, thats not how you deal with that build.


zvt is all about being greedy -- that's why these early aggression builds work.. if you aren't ahead in economy, you lose the game


if you defend the push your ahead anyway. and you dont have to risk dying
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
August 31 2011 03:31 GMT
#1157
Even in foreign team matches only the koreans win lol
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 31 2011 03:32 GMT
#1158
On August 31 2011 12:30 Mainland wrote:
It'd be nice if the teams pick coordinating colors. It's a bit confusing have a light blue protoss on one team and a dark blue protoss on the other.

I think something like blue/purple vs orange/yellow would work better.

i kept thinking they were attacking their own units (like i do sometimes =( ), but that was apparently not true. lol
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
August 31 2011 03:34 GMT
#1159
That 2v2 was disgusting. I think Strifecro should go mass infestors or something, his early expo never pays off.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10035 Posts
August 31 2011 03:34 GMT
#1160
On August 31 2011 12:31 rauk wrote:
Even in foreign team matches only the koreans win lol


only way to beat a korean is with a korean ^.^
and axlasv + strifecro did gg, dunno why the chat didnt save it
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
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