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On July 18 2011 19:05 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 19:04 FarbrorAbavna wrote:On July 18 2011 19:01 Failsafe wrote:On July 18 2011 19:01 FarbrorAbavna wrote:On July 18 2011 18:58 bittman wrote:On July 18 2011 18:53 Gamegene wrote: Sigh... what was all that about "PvP is evolving out of 4-gate." T___T Think it still needs a patch to have other build orders more viable. Not to kill the 4 gate, just something which makes the 4g a riskier build. As it is, 4gate in PvP isn't risky, it's a 1 base all-in with no risk unless your opponent 4 gates. doesnt need a patch, it needs players that are good enough. It's been almost two months now that we've seen plenty of pvp from players that are good enough to make anyone who 4gates look like they belong in diamond but these two not so much. This time it's the players not the game. yeah, obviously. code a finalists suck. they dont suck, they got here through playing good. Their pvp though isnt really up to snuff. Watch a pvp with naniwa, mc or huk playing a similarly good player and you will be blown away when comparing it to what we are watching now. Puzzle beat MC in a pvp long time ago when MC was still invincible in it. Oh and I'm pretty sure that they have better PvP than NaNiWa/HuK... You could beat MC 10% of the time in PvP. It's pretty iffy.
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On July 18 2011 19:07 Drazerk wrote:Game Five on terminus RE In the right position is  Tassadar In the left position is  Puzzle
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Robos from both players
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well.
lets hope this goes late game
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coach came over before the game and said do the robo build
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A robo bay thats a good sign...
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Wolf just summed up PvP
"A stroke of luck and Tassadar is way ahead"
♥ :D
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Some of you blamed Tassadar for only 4-gating, but so far the case is that Puzzle is the one who never switches it up and only 4gates. Really hope Tassadar takes this game now.
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On July 18 2011 19:08 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 19:07 Drazerk wrote:Game Five on terminus RE In the right position is  Tassadar In the left position is  Puzzle 6:00 Robos from both players
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Immortal from Tassadar
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BUT I THOUGHT PvP WAS BROKEN AND YOU COULD ONLY 4 GATE!
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On July 18 2011 19:07 Meancookie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 19:06 Failsafe wrote:On July 18 2011 19:03 Umpteen wrote: I understand Blizzard wanting to differentiate Protoss unit construction mechanics from Terran, but did they have to do it in a way that completely eliminates defender's advantage at the 6 minute mark with one cheap upgrade? Seriously, if both these players spawned in the same base these games wouldn't look any different. yeah, it tilts the hell out of me that blizzard pours sixty million dollars (or a hundred million -- however much) into developing SC2 and they didn't hire someone with the wisdom to point out that eliminating defender's advantage is a really stupid move. I agree with this. I'm not saying "REMOVE WARP-IN MECHANIC NAO" because that would seriously break the game, but in hindsight it might not have been such a good idea huh  High ground advantage is a better example of this and applies to all matchups (remove miss chance vs uphill units). The way they changed it was just so much less intuitive.
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On July 18 2011 19:07 dani` wrote: What did Unstable say is not allowed in between sets? Didn't catch it, watching replays or something?
Indeed, watching replays is not allowed between games in GSL.
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How genius of Tassadar. Aggressive 4 gate 4 times in a row. Don't 4 gate the 5th game = insta-early game advantage.
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On July 18 2011 19:09 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 19:08 Drazerk wrote:On July 18 2011 19:07 Drazerk wrote:Game Five on terminus RE In the right position is  Tassadar In the left position is  Puzzle 6:00 Robos from both players 6:30 Immortal from Tassadar
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Robo bay from tassadar
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Wow, glad the first game i tune in for isn't a 4gate :D edit: 4gate vs 4gate
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at least we can see robo tech
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puzzle should get a stargate if he sees the observer's blur
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Beyonder
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Lets be happy that theres a robotics now, he cant leave his base for 10 minutes, it will be extremely exciting.
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On July 18 2011 19:08 DonaldLee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 19:06 Spicy Pepper wrote: I wonder if a shield battery building would help. Maybe allow the defender to regen shields on their stalkers, and 3 gates, while not cutting probes. All these years and people are still adamantly advocating shield batteries XD
how about making it so you cant warp in where the opponent has pylon power or something, would atleast stop some situations.. although It could offer some really really weird scenarios so this is probably a horrible Idea :p
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