EPTNASL Grand Finals Day 3 - Page 571
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
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JackhammerIV
United Kingdom221 Posts
On July 11 2011 09:26 EntertainMe wrote: Someone from playxp wrote a clever analysis of GSL Finals failure: "In GSL, after the quarter-finals, the time given to prepare is just too much. With so much time to prepare, players come out with perfectly prepared build/timings. However, when such build/timing fails, because it's just too perfectly planned out, we do not get a long intense game but rather one landslide victory. Either win game 1 and win it all, or fail game 1 and lose it all. Unlike the Finals(-esque[better build order player winning rather than more skilled player winning]) Games, it's more of Build Order fight. But with drastic number of games like NASL format (many tightly scheduled games), it is unusual to be a build order fight. It will be a Finals of more skilled player coming on top, solely depending on players dedication and practice and talent. And with such practice and commitment to the game, it will only result in Good Games." -Dijkstra of Playxp.com + Show Spoiler + 밑에 분 말대로 GSL은 4강이후 결승까지 시간이 너무 많아서 선수들이 완벽하게 짜여진 맞춤빌드를 연구해옴 그것이 실패하면 엎치락뒤치락의 결승다운 양상이 아니라 그냥 실패한쪽이 무난하게 발리는 게임이 나옴 1경기 이후 경기도 뭔가를 준비해왔는데 성공하면 무난한 승리, 실패하면 무난한 패배 결승답지 않게 빌드의 성패가 결과를 극단적으로 가르기 때문에 보는입장에선 1경기의 여부에 따라 흥망이 명확히 갈림 그러나 NASL처럼 일정이 비교적 빠듯하다면 매경기마다 뭔가를 준비하기보단 평소 연습량과 실력, 센스, 그리고 임기응변이 선수의 기량에 따라 적절히 구현되기 때문에 오히려 더욱 명경기나 나오는거 같음 TSL3 had quite a bit of time in between matches to prepare though. Might be an exception to the rule I guess. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
That's 3 of us man. | ||
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TeWy
France714 Posts
On July 11 2011 09:25 Malgrif wrote: unlucky? he was out played. only reason he won game 7 was because mc decided to go all in and it didn't work. Maybe if Protoss wasn't simply better than Terran in a classical late-game situation, Puma would have won 4-0 (yes I play Protoss but I'm not enough biased to deny this). But last games were mostly won by the balls anyway. | ||
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Phyxx
Denmark681 Posts
On July 11 2011 09:25 Alabasern wrote: What game was the best in the finals? eh, all of them...? :p | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2717 Posts
On July 11 2011 09:27 oursblanc wrote: Either 5 or 6, I reckon. But really, all of them. All games were very good but games 5 and 6 were such nailbiters that I was actually twitching every time there was an engagement. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
OrangeMilkis Wooju Lee "In order for GSL to become truly global, they need to hire the blonde reporter from NASL" http://twitter.com/#!/OrangeMilkis | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On July 11 2011 09:29 rotegirte wrote: This. Not to go too much on a tangent, but keep in mind certain treatments (laser etc) do require quite a lump of cash. There are plenty other malign skin conditions beyond ordinary acne. It could help much his self-esteem and personality as a young person.. Yea I think it was an amazingly mature and honest answer. Don't get why it's funny. | ||
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
On July 11 2011 09:26 EntertainMe wrote: Someone from playxp wrote a clever analysis of GSL Finals failure: "In GSL, after the quarter-finals, the time given to prepare is just too much. With so much time to prepare, players come out with perfectly prepared build/timings. However, when such build/timing fails, because it's just too perfectly planned out, we do not get a long intense game but rather one landslide victory. Either win game 1 and win it all, or fail game 1 and lose it all. Unlike the Finals(-esque[better build order player winning rather than more skilled player winning]) Games, it's more of Build Order fight. But with drastic number of games like NASL format (many tightly scheduled games), it is unusual to be a build order fight. It will be a Finals of more skilled player coming on top, solely depending on players dedication and practice and talent. And with such practice and commitment to the game, it will only result in Good Games." -Dijkstra of Playxp.com + Show Spoiler + 밑에 분 말대로 GSL은 4강이후 결승까지 시간이 너무 많아서 선수들이 완벽하게 짜여진 맞춤빌드를 연구해옴 그것이 실패하면 엎치락뒤치락의 결승다운 양상이 아니라 그냥 실패한쪽이 무난하게 발리는 게임이 나옴 1경기 이후 경기도 뭔가를 준비해왔는데 성공하면 무난한 승리, 실패하면 무난한 패배 결승답지 않게 빌드의 성패가 결과를 극단적으로 가르기 때문에 보는입장에선 1경기의 여부에 따라 흥망이 명확히 갈림 그러나 NASL처럼 일정이 비교적 빠듯하다면 매경기마다 뭔가를 준비하기보단 평소 연습량과 실력, 센스, 그리고 임기응변이 선수의 기량에 따라 적절히 구현되기 때문에 오히려 더욱 명경기나 나오는거 같음 This applies not only to the GSL finals but to every scheduled game in the GSL. In the finals, I think evenly matched players will always show great games, but there is always one GSL finalist that does not deserve to be there, aside from GSL season 1 and MKP. | ||
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Zealot Lord
Hong Kong748 Posts
On July 11 2011 09:28 IVN wrote: When I read comments such as these, I ask myself whether there are Protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU. haha true, though I think the only exception to that is Alicia, his PvT is substantially better than his PvZ. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
If Ali played StarCraft, that's how he'd play. Nothing but enormous respect from me! | ||
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Pieismyign
United States176 Posts
On July 11 2011 09:29 JackhammerIV wrote: TSL3 had quite a bit of time in between matches to prepare though. Might be an exception to the rule I guess. maybe because foreigners dont spend as much time as koreans on building build orders and practicing to perfect it. Plus, koreans are in teams where each player practices a lot so they could help refine the build. | ||
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tekos44
France280 Posts
lindsey's fanclub getting more posts than puma's k guys, i can see it | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On July 11 2011 09:28 IVN wrote: When I read comments such as these, I ask myself whether there are Protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU. When I read comments like these I wonder if English is your first language. What do you mean? That is not a complete sentence. | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2717 Posts
On July 11 2011 09:29 TeWy wrote: Maybe if Protoss wasn't simply better than Terran in a classical late-game situation, Puma would have won 4-0. ... I believe, Puma showed us today that this is not the case. Remember the game on metalopolis where he was down 40-50 supply against 200/200 toss and won due to incredible ghost control? | ||
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gulden
Germany205 Posts
On July 11 2011 09:26 EntertainMe wrote: Someone from playxp wrote a clever analysis of GSL Finals failure: "In GSL, after the quarter-finals, the time given to prepare is just too much. With so much time to prepare, players come out with perfectly prepared build/timings. However, when such build/timing fails, because it's just too perfectly planned out, we do not get a long intense game but rather one landslide victory. Either win game 1 and win it all, or fail game 1 and lose it all. Unlike the Finals(-esque[better build order player winning rather than more skilled player winning]) Games, it's more of Build Order fight. But with drastic number of games like NASL format (many tightly scheduled games), it is unusual to be a build order fight. It will be a Finals of more skilled player coming on top, solely depending on players dedication and practice and talent. And with such practice and commitment to the game, it will only result in Good Games." -Dijkstra of Playxp.com so so true! Never realized that! Especially Polts Marauder build against MMAs Tank/Hellion compositions | ||
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DennyR
Germany379 Posts
I also liked Getorp and Incontrol casting the finals, even tho I really hated them during the season. So NASL now just has to fire the sound- and cameracrew and it will be awesome(or excellent) in Season2. | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
From these games, I think Terran just has a higher skill cap. I honestly don't think Puma outplayed MC because of MC was so spot on about the drops and insta reacted to everything, but Terran's harass options are just so strong.. especially when you have a top tier Terran player doing it. | ||
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
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kunstderfugue
Mexico375 Posts
On July 11 2011 09:31 tdt wrote: When I read comments like these I wonder if English is your first language. What do you mean? That is not a complete sentence. It is two sentences in fact When i read comments such as these / I ask myself whethere there are protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU. | ||
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