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kunstderfugue
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico375 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 00:37:34
July 11 2011 00:36 GMT
#11441
On July 11 2011 09:34 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:33 kunstderfugue wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:31 tdt wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:28 IVN wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:17 Zealot Lord wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:14 Kyhol wrote:
I never thought it was going to be good, I was proved wrong. I enjoyed the finals so much. From now on I'm a Puma fan, he played brilliantly and showed us all that Terran can beat MC. :D
I am definitely buying a season 2 pass.


Showed that Terran can beat MC? I think you must have missed Bomber and Polt's matches with MC before =p PvT is clearly MC's weakest matchup, but as you can see, its still friggin' beastly o_O

When I read comments such as these, I ask myself whether there are Protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU.

When I read comments like these I wonder if English is your first language. What do you mean? That is not a complete sentence.


It is two sentences in fact

When i read comments such as these / I ask myself whethere there are protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU.


"When I read comments such as these" is not a complete sentence :D


Isn't it? it has a subject and a verb and an object and everything in spanish at least we would consider that a complete sentence

Edit: i think it's a subordinate sentence so i'm kind of clear why it wouldn't be. it's still confusing though :/
Old lamps for new!
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
July 11 2011 00:37 GMT
#11442
On July 11 2011 09:34 IVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:29 dooraven wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:28 IVN wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:17 Zealot Lord wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:14 Kyhol wrote:
I never thought it was going to be good, I was proved wrong. I enjoyed the finals so much. From now on I'm a Puma fan, he played brilliantly and showed us all that Terran can beat MC. :D
I am definitely buying a season 2 pass.


Showed that Terran can beat MC? I think you must have missed Bomber and Polt's matches with MC before =p PvT is clearly MC's weakest matchup, but as you can see, its still friggin' beastly o_O

When I read comments such as these, I ask myself whether there are Protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU.


Alicia? Tassadar?

No, I mean good like MC, but winning against any, or at least not losing against a no name Terran.

There are no such Protoss players. The funny thing is, every other week there is some new Terran dude, who can own the best Toss players, and I ask myself, why is that.

Terran OP obviously. doh!
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
July 11 2011 00:37 GMT
#11443
On July 11 2011 09:35 RaiKageRyu wrote:
As figured, the only road block to MC would be a Korean Terran.


Well MC called it before the week-end that PuMa was the player he was afraid of (in his Ro32 interviews), and since I knew it would be PuMa/MC finals
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
July 11 2011 00:37 GMT
#11444
I wonder if that all-in in game 7 was planned or as mentioned by day9 "an easy way out" to play the game. You're very tired after the first 6 games and instead of playing a standard style go for something quite cheesy and hoping to catch Puma off guard.

Doom Guy
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
July 11 2011 00:37 GMT
#11445
On July 11 2011 09:34 IVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:29 dooraven wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:28 IVN wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:17 Zealot Lord wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:14 Kyhol wrote:
I never thought it was going to be good, I was proved wrong. I enjoyed the finals so much. From now on I'm a Puma fan, he played brilliantly and showed us all that Terran can beat MC. :D
I am definitely buying a season 2 pass.


Showed that Terran can beat MC? I think you must have missed Bomber and Polt's matches with MC before =p PvT is clearly MC's weakest matchup, but as you can see, its still friggin' beastly o_O

When I read comments such as these, I ask myself whether there are Protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU.


Alicia? Tassadar?

No, I mean good like MC, but winning against any, or at least not losing against a no name Terran.

There are no such Protoss players. The funny thing is, every other week there is some new Terran dude, who can own the best Toss players, and I ask myself, why is that.

just give SC2 more time and things like that won't happen because there is still plenty of tweeks and two expansions to come out that will hopefully refine the game more.
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
July 11 2011 00:37 GMT
#11446
On July 11 2011 09:36 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:35 lorkac wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:33 oogieogie wrote:
The only thing i hate is how puma/koreans enter tournaments lately like MLG. I mean sure puma deserved to be there because he obviously won and showed great games, but he didn't have to go through what the other 50 did to qualify or make it to the live event.


You mean like Send a video before a deadline?


...
maybe you aren't aware of the group stages?


Ret went 8-1 to get the number 1 spot.

Puma went 8-0 to get his

What's your point?
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
July 11 2011 00:38 GMT
#11447
On July 11 2011 09:34 IVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:29 dooraven wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:28 IVN wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:17 Zealot Lord wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:14 Kyhol wrote:
I never thought it was going to be good, I was proved wrong. I enjoyed the finals so much. From now on I'm a Puma fan, he played brilliantly and showed us all that Terran can beat MC. :D
I am definitely buying a season 2 pass.


Showed that Terran can beat MC? I think you must have missed Bomber and Polt's matches with MC before =p PvT is clearly MC's weakest matchup, but as you can see, its still friggin' beastly o_O

When I read comments such as these, I ask myself whether there are Protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU.


Alicia? Tassadar?

No, I mean good like MC, but winning against any, or at least not losing against a no name Terran.

There are no such Protoss players. The funny thing is, every other week there is some new Terran dude, who can own the best Toss players, and I ask myself, why is that.


Alicia is pretty good vsT.

I'm wondering what the naysayers about korean payers in NASL are thinking right now. No foreigners could have given games that epic
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
July 11 2011 00:38 GMT
#11448
On July 11 2011 09:36 kunstderfugue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:34 travis wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:33 kunstderfugue wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:31 tdt wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:28 IVN wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:17 Zealot Lord wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:14 Kyhol wrote:
I never thought it was going to be good, I was proved wrong. I enjoyed the finals so much. From now on I'm a Puma fan, he played brilliantly and showed us all that Terran can beat MC. :D
I am definitely buying a season 2 pass.


Showed that Terran can beat MC? I think you must have missed Bomber and Polt's matches with MC before =p PvT is clearly MC's weakest matchup, but as you can see, its still friggin' beastly o_O

When I read comments such as these, I ask myself whether there are Protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU.

When I read comments like these I wonder if English is your first language. What do you mean? That is not a complete sentence.


It is two sentences in fact

When i read comments such as these / I ask myself whethere there are protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU.


"When I read comments such as these" is not a complete sentence :D


Isn't it? it has a subject and a verb and an object and everything in spanish at least we would consider that a complete sentence

Edit: i think it's a subordinate sentence so i'm kind of clear why it wouldn't be. it's still confusing though :/


Sounds weird to me.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
July 11 2011 00:38 GMT
#11449
On July 11 2011 09:34 IVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:29 dooraven wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:28 IVN wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:17 Zealot Lord wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:14 Kyhol wrote:
I never thought it was going to be good, I was proved wrong. I enjoyed the finals so much. From now on I'm a Puma fan, he played brilliantly and showed us all that Terran can beat MC. :D
I am definitely buying a season 2 pass.


Showed that Terran can beat MC? I think you must have missed Bomber and Polt's matches with MC before =p PvT is clearly MC's weakest matchup, but as you can see, its still friggin' beastly o_O

When I read comments such as these, I ask myself whether there are Protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU.


Alicia? Tassadar?

No, I mean good like MC, but winning against any, or at least not losing against a no name Terran.

There are no such Protoss players. The funny thing is, every other week there is some new Terran dude, who can own the best Toss players, and I ask myself, why is that.


? PuMa is not a no-name terran. If you never heard of him doesnt mean he is a no name.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
July 11 2011 00:39 GMT
#11450
On July 11 2011 09:34 IVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:29 dooraven wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:28 IVN wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:17 Zealot Lord wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:14 Kyhol wrote:
I never thought it was going to be good, I was proved wrong. I enjoyed the finals so much. From now on I'm a Puma fan, he played brilliantly and showed us all that Terran can beat MC. :D
I am definitely buying a season 2 pass.


Showed that Terran can beat MC? I think you must have missed Bomber and Polt's matches with MC before =p PvT is clearly MC's weakest matchup, but as you can see, its still friggin' beastly o_O

When I read comments such as these, I ask myself whether there are Protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU.


Alicia? Tassadar?

No, I mean good like MC, but winning against any, or at least not losing against a no name Terran.

There are no such Protoss players. The funny thing is, every other week there is some new Terran dude, who can own the best Toss players, and I ask myself, why is that.

User was temp banned for this post.

When you play the game of balance whining, you win or you get banned. There is no middle ground.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
July 11 2011 00:39 GMT
#11451
On July 11 2011 09:30 StyLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:26 EntertainMe wrote:
Someone from playxp wrote a clever analysis of GSL Finals failure:

"In GSL, after the quarter-finals, the time given to prepare is just too much.

With so much time to prepare, players come out with perfectly prepared build/timings.

However, when such build/timing fails, because it's just too perfectly planned out, we do not get a long intense game but rather one landslide victory.

Either win game 1 and win it all, or fail game 1 and lose it all.

Unlike the Finals(-esque[better build order player winning rather than more skilled player winning]) Games, it's more of Build Order fight.

But with drastic number of games like NASL format (many tightly scheduled games), it is unusual to be a build order fight. It will be a Finals of more skilled player coming on top, solely depending on players dedication and practice and talent.

And with such practice and commitment to the game, it will only result in Good Games."

-Dijkstra of Playxp.com

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밑에 분 말대로 GSL은 4강이후 결승까지 시간이 너무 많아서

선수들이 완벽하게 짜여진 맞춤빌드를 연구해옴

그것이 실패하면 엎치락뒤치락의 결승다운 양상이 아니라 그냥 실패한쪽이 무난하게 발리는 게임이 나옴

1경기 이후 경기도 뭔가를 준비해왔는데 성공하면 무난한 승리, 실패하면 무난한 패배

결승답지 않게 빌드의 성패가 결과를 극단적으로 가르기 때문에

보는입장에선 1경기의 여부에 따라 흥망이 명확히 갈림

그러나 NASL처럼 일정이 비교적 빠듯하다면 매경기마다 뭔가를 준비하기보단

평소 연습량과 실력, 센스, 그리고 임기응변이 선수의 기량에 따라 적절히 구현되기 때문에 오히려 더욱
명경기나 나오는거 같음



This applies not only to the GSL finals but to every scheduled game in the GSL. In the finals, I think evenly matched players will always show great games, but there is always one GSL finalist that does not deserve to be there, aside from GSL season 1 and MKP.


I agree to this, MC and Puma seemed pretty evenly matched coming in the series

but I still think GSL is a bit cursed, the MMA and Polt finals should not have been that one sided.
you live and you learn
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
July 11 2011 00:39 GMT
#11452
On July 11 2011 09:33 oogieogie wrote:
The only thing i hate is how puma/koreans enter tournaments lately like MLG. I mean sure puma deserved to be there because he obviously won and showed great games, but he didn't have to go through what the other 50 did to qualify or make it to the live event.


What the hell are you talking about. Season 1 was purely invites.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
July 11 2011 00:39 GMT
#11453
On July 11 2011 09:38 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:34 IVN wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:29 dooraven wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:28 IVN wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:17 Zealot Lord wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:14 Kyhol wrote:
I never thought it was going to be good, I was proved wrong. I enjoyed the finals so much. From now on I'm a Puma fan, he played brilliantly and showed us all that Terran can beat MC. :D
I am definitely buying a season 2 pass.


Showed that Terran can beat MC? I think you must have missed Bomber and Polt's matches with MC before =p PvT is clearly MC's weakest matchup, but as you can see, its still friggin' beastly o_O

When I read comments such as these, I ask myself whether there are Protoss players to whom PvT isnt the weakest MU.


Alicia? Tassadar?

No, I mean good like MC, but winning against any, or at least not losing against a no name Terran.

There are no such Protoss players. The funny thing is, every other week there is some new Terran dude, who can own the best Toss players, and I ask myself, why is that.


Alicia is pretty good vsT.

I'm wondering what the naysayers about korean payers in NASL are thinking right now. No foreigners could have given games that epic


I dunno man, Catz in the finals would have been epic
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Ashworth
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom185 Posts
July 11 2011 00:39 GMT
#11454
On July 11 2011 09:32 Slardar wrote:
NASL Finals is finished....... what to do now?

Mlg in a couple weeks
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
July 11 2011 00:39 GMT
#11455
On July 11 2011 09:29 Phyxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:25 Alabasern wrote:
What game was the best in the finals?

eh, all of them...? :p


Game 4 wasn't very good. It was just macro macro macro, Puma lands huge emp and MC has terrible army position. Game over.
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
July 11 2011 00:40 GMT
#11456
On July 11 2011 09:35 lorkac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:33 oogieogie wrote:
The only thing i hate is how puma/koreans enter tournaments lately like MLG. I mean sure puma deserved to be there because he obviously won and showed great games, but he didn't have to go through what the other 50 did to qualify or make it to the live event.


You mean like Send a video before a deadline?


And the fact he won an open tournament where he faced other koreans some of which are argueably better than alot of people in divisional play?
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
July 11 2011 00:40 GMT
#11457
On July 11 2011 09:35 lorkac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:33 oogieogie wrote:
The only thing i hate is how puma/koreans enter tournaments lately like MLG. I mean sure puma deserved to be there because he obviously won and showed great games, but he didn't have to go through what the other 50 did to qualify or make it to the live event.


You mean like Send a video before a deadline?

ye just ignore the series games that players needed to play to get to the live event.
jyLee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States350 Posts
July 11 2011 00:40 GMT
#11458
Thank god it was a korean dominated playoff. We got some of the best games ever to be seen in a tournament not named GSL. Until the foreigners (excluding Sen) catch up, nobody should be arguing about trying to prevent less koreans from coming over. Its a lame excuse and as a viewer I want to see the best games possible. This NASL finals was more evidence of that. Such an epic series of games that even inconsistent production could not ruin it.
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
July 11 2011 00:40 GMT
#11459
On July 11 2011 09:36 kevinmon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:35 Marsupian wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:29 KimJongChill wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:23 Steveling wrote:
On July 11 2011 09:21 Flytothesky wrote:
ahhh shit... I miss Lindsey Spore Crawler already...


That's 2 of us man.


That's 3 of us man.


That's 4 of us man

That's 5 of us man

+1
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
Garfunko
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada121 Posts
July 11 2011 00:40 GMT
#11460
Puma went through the insane open bracket btw.
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