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On July 07 2011 20:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 20:56 Kar98 wrote:On July 07 2011 20:54 RPR_Tempest wrote:On July 07 2011 20:53 RetoX wrote:
DRG bonjwa ! Don't even dare use the b word. DongRaeGu isn't even close. In come the BW fan boys Oh really? I don't watch or even care about Brood War. Brood War can suck it, actually. But I am SICK of seeing anyone who so much as wins a game being called the next bonjwa. NO, bonjwa is the ABSOLUTE HIGHEST. If DRG wins Code S 3 seasons in a row, then you can start calling him a bonjwa.
Yeah! Brood War, the most influential RTS game ever can burn in hell for all I care!
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On July 07 2011 20:53 FallDownMarigold wrote:Yeah man! Cheap talk is cheap! Then if Huk had lost we could have all said "shoulda gone for Cezzanne, man!" Lmao. If only your post content was the minority in this thread... So much blind stupidity/fanboyism
No, the reason I say this is because I think HuK or MC wouldn't have slipped up like Hero. That game shouldn't have gone like that, he maybe made a mistake or DRG got off lucky taking down those first units with the lings which eventually flooded him. I think one of the solid protoss players just would have a bigger chance in taking him out. Hero is also a great protoss, but I just think is playstyle wasn't fit vs someone as DRG. He's an amazing zerg player.
There also is the pressure in being the ace so considering HuK has had problems with that before maybe MC. But this is merely how I see it. I don't question thewind and I think he does great.
Too bad I can't express my opinion without someone calling it cheap talk, though.
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On July 07 2011 21:02 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 20:59 PikaXchU wrote:On July 07 2011 20:57 Pandemona wrote:On July 07 2011 20:56 pyro19 wrote:On July 07 2011 20:55 Pandemona wrote:
Lol, MVP = DRG is silly, DRG isnt even good, he just does funny builds in the amazing Bo1 formats lol. Proves he is not a good player when he takes like 3hours to beat QXC in a Code B semi final game, then loses to Hero in 20minutes lol. Cezzane was unlucky that DRG was going for a huge roach push if it had been like 2/3 minutes later he wouldnt of been able to move out with it. Vs hero he got lucky that Hero did not sim City xpo like every other protos does and got a cheap easy run by victory massing lings...hardly the best play you will ever see...Then vs NaDa he just about won after getting lucky Run Bys again when NaDa moving out. He is not the best player on MVP team, Genuis and Tails clearly are hense they are in code S (going to be for Tails) Keen is also better than DRG. Stop with the fanboy attitudes please!! Wow , The hate in this post....Did DRG pawn you on Battlenet or something? Factual post i beleive....he is 11-1 in Bo1 format, Wow that guy is better than NesTea/MC/MVP put together? TROLOLOL What? Try playing in a BO3 which takes 3 hours THEN play against someone else straight away from a different race on completely different maps. That is EXHAUSTING. Demeaning QXC is worst, QXC isn't THAT bad. Obvious troll is obvious? You just can't take it that DongRaeGu is winning people and just quotes his BO1 wins as lucky. Try watching SC vs DongRaeGu from the previous month. Use ur brain for christ sake!! These people ARE PROFFESIONAL gamers, when you get to a PROFFESIONAL level in Korea, you are good enough to take 1 game off ANY other pro, a Best of 1 match up is STUPID. It always has been, the EG MC proved this when they had Bo3 format and was clear who the better team was and won in Mouz. DRG wins 11 Bo1 losing 1 game. Yet he has not got into Code A since the 2 months in GSTL he has been "owning"? How does this make him an Exceptionally good player? Who owns everyone everywhere? He doesnt, he is just another Squirtle...remember that guy you all probably fan boy'd over before -_- when he 4-0'd couple of teams. Then is nowhere to be seen in the Korean scene? Has to come over to NA to pick up easy money in NASL?
There is a tendency for people to overhype players sure, but I still feel DRG is something special. I'm sure we'll see him in code A next season.
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edit: not worth it
anyway, DRG is a great zerg player yes, but we have yet to see him play in a GSL regular season. Lots of players have done very well in the GSTL(eg: squirtle) and then crashed and burned when they entered GSL
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On July 07 2011 21:04 Dragonmaster26 wrote:
Though I acknowledge DongRaeGue to be one of the best zerg I find the 'one-sidedness' of Team MVP to be a bit dissapointing. I mean he's been scoring a lot of 3 kill in these BO7. Don't they have any other well-rounded players? I hope MVP's members soon become more powerful as a team.
A lot of their code A/S players don't seem to perform well in team leagues I guess. GuineaPig and DRG both are the ones winning stuff for their team, while the others are doing pretty bad :S
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On July 07 2011 20:55 jjhchsc2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 20:54 Talho wrote:On July 07 2011 20:52 -Archangel- wrote:
SEND DRG to MLG to take that Code S spot!! Who is with me?? This, John make this happen ! MAKE it happen!!!
Come on people BUMP this on each page so someone at GOM can see it!! DRG to MLG!!
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the burrowed lings vs nada. been wanting to see some1 do that for some time! since i'm way to crap to do it. 1st time i've seen in used so widely in 1 game.
his battleground tactics are something to be admired esp in the game vs nada.
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On July 07 2011 21:03 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 21:02 nihlon wrote:On July 07 2011 21:00 FallDownMarigold wrote:On July 07 2011 20:58 Tsubbi wrote:On July 07 2011 20:55 Pandemona wrote:
Lol, MVP = DRG is silly, DRG isnt even good, he just does funny builds in the amazing Bo1 formats lol. Proves he is not a good player when he takes like 3hours to beat QXC in a Code B semi final game, then loses to Hero in 20minutes lol. Cezzane was unlucky that DRG was going for a huge roach push if it had been like 2/3 minutes later he wouldnt of been able to move out with it. Vs hero he got lucky that Hero did not sim City xpo like every other protos does and got a cheap easy run by victory massing lings...hardly the best play you will ever see...Then vs NaDa he just about won after getting lucky Run Bys again when NaDa moving out. He is not the best player on MVP team, Genuis and Tails clearly are hense they are in code S (going to be for Tails) Keen is also better than DRG. Stop with the fanboy attitudes please!! the stupidity in this post is priceless Hmm let's put your objective judgment to the test. Tell me, are all the QQ posts begging for Huk not equally stupid? I'm shocked there isn't more backlash against that baseless shit. This is TL so I guess it's his "home turf" but wow... Yeah, people on teamliquid wants a player from team liquid to play. How weird. It's not that people are saying that they want him to play its stupid, its people saying huk would've been a better choice than cezanne. I think we all want to see huk play in GSTL.
Maybe but that's not what he wrote. And I don't see how his comment was valid even if people think that. It's in the realm of possibility that Huk would have been a better choice. Why so upset? (Not you)
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On July 07 2011 21:05 tomatriedes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 21:02 Pandemona wrote:On July 07 2011 20:59 PikaXchU wrote:On July 07 2011 20:57 Pandemona wrote:On July 07 2011 20:56 pyro19 wrote:On July 07 2011 20:55 Pandemona wrote:
Lol, MVP = DRG is silly, DRG isnt even good, he just does funny builds in the amazing Bo1 formats lol. Proves he is not a good player when he takes like 3hours to beat QXC in a Code B semi final game, then loses to Hero in 20minutes lol. Cezzane was unlucky that DRG was going for a huge roach push if it had been like 2/3 minutes later he wouldnt of been able to move out with it. Vs hero he got lucky that Hero did not sim City xpo like every other protos does and got a cheap easy run by victory massing lings...hardly the best play you will ever see...Then vs NaDa he just about won after getting lucky Run Bys again when NaDa moving out. He is not the best player on MVP team, Genuis and Tails clearly are hense they are in code S (going to be for Tails) Keen is also better than DRG. Stop with the fanboy attitudes please!! Wow , The hate in this post....Did DRG pawn you on Battlenet or something? Factual post i beleive....he is 11-1 in Bo1 format, Wow that guy is better than NesTea/MC/MVP put together? TROLOLOL What? Try playing in a BO3 which takes 3 hours THEN play against someone else straight away from a different race on completely different maps. That is EXHAUSTING. Demeaning QXC is worst, QXC isn't THAT bad. Obvious troll is obvious? You just can't take it that DongRaeGu is winning people and just quotes his BO1 wins as lucky. Try watching SC vs DongRaeGu from the previous month. Use ur brain for christ sake!! These people ARE PROFFESIONAL gamers, when you get to a PROFFESIONAL level in Korea, you are good enough to take 1 game off ANY other pro, a Best of 1 match up is STUPID. It always has been, the EG MC proved this when they had Bo3 format and was clear who the better team was and won in Mouz. DRG wins 11 Bo1 losing 1 game. Yet he has not got into Code A since the 2 months in GSTL he has been "owning"? How does this make him an Exceptionally good player? Who owns everyone everywhere? He doesnt, he is just another Squirtle...remember that guy you all probably fan boy'd over before -_- when he 4-0'd couple of teams. Then is nowhere to be seen in the Korean scene? Has to come over to NA to pick up easy money in NASL? There is a tendency for people to overhype players sure, but I still feel DRG is something special. I'm sure we'll see him in code A next season.
Will we though? He was as good as he is know in GSTL when MVP beat SlayerS in final? Then lost in Final of his Bracket vs Hero (no shame there of course not) Will he just be another Squirtle is my point?
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DongRaeGu has (unintentionally I assume) the best and most trollish nick of all time, and he plays like a beast too. Really nice games from him today.
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I think Wolf was right when he slipped and said DongRaeGu was on team DongRaeGu.
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On July 07 2011 21:05 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 21:03 HolyArrow wrote:On July 07 2011 21:01 zeru wrote:On July 07 2011 21:00 Daray wrote:On July 07 2011 20:59 zeru wrote:
DRG can't get into code A, but wins some games in GSTL, fanboys in LR thread shout "next bonjwa"...what? It took bomber a long to get into Code A -> S and DRG 11-1 in gstl right now... must've gotten really lucky i guess :c I'm not shouting that bomber is gonna be the next bonjwa, or the best player in the world, or even the best terran in the world. People like you really need to stop focusing on things like Code A/Code S status to measure a player. You don't look at things like that - you look at what their gameplay looks like. Gameplay is a pure measurement of skill. Tournament status largely can rely on luck. I remember when some people were convinced that MKP would roll MMA because MKP had a ton of 2nd place finishes while MMA wasn't even Code S. But they made the mistake of looking at just standing and results, rather than gameplay itself. I'm sorry but if you can't even qualify for a tournament a single time (?) for however many seasons GSL has existed now, it's hard for me to believe that that player is the best of anything.
Shouting "next bonjwa" is stupid but his Code A/S status has nothing to do with that. He's good and could easily compete in Code A or S.
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cant wait to see F.United play, too bad I have to wait 3 more weeks :\
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Haha, all those FTL points, MVP is my team, DRG is my captain, that makes 2 points for MVP.
DRG 1 point for appearance, 1 point for 2 games streak break, 6 points for 3 wins, 1 points for being in MVP. Hum, that' s only 9 points for DRG, I thought there was a bonus for ace matches wins, seems not. That's 11 points + I have guineapig, 12. Pretty cool <3
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On July 07 2011 21:05 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 21:03 HolyArrow wrote:On July 07 2011 21:01 zeru wrote:On July 07 2011 21:00 Daray wrote:On July 07 2011 20:59 zeru wrote:
DRG can't get into code A, but wins some games in GSTL, fanboys in LR thread shout "next bonjwa"...what? It took bomber a long to get into Code A -> S and DRG 11-1 in gstl right now... must've gotten really lucky i guess :c I'm not shouting that bomber is gonna be the next bonjwa, or the best player in the world, or even the best terran in the world. People like you really need to stop focusing on things like Code A/Code S status to measure a player. You don't look at things like that - you look at what their gameplay looks like. Gameplay is a pure measurement of skill. Tournament status largely can rely on luck. I remember when some people were convinced that MKP would roll MMA because MKP had a ton of 2nd place finishes while MMA wasn't even Code S. But they made the mistake of looking at just standing and results, rather than gameplay itself. I'm sorry but if you can't even qualify for a tournament a single time (?) for however many seasons GSL has existed now, it's hard for me to believe that that player is the best of anything.
That's the problem with your idea of measuring a player. Qualifying for a tournament doesn't only involve skill. It involves being fortunate enough to not run into the wrong players constantly. Do you know how ridiculous the Code A qualifiers are? It's such a long road that you NEED measure of luck to get through them. Also, I'm pretty sure DRG hasn't been trying to qualify for GSL ever since the first GSL Open season...
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On July 07 2011 21:06 phanto wrote:
DongRaeGu has (unintentionally I assume) the best and most trollish nick of all time, and he plays like a beast too. Really nice games from him today.
lol it does sound like a troll.
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On July 07 2011 20:55 Pandemona wrote:
Lol, MVP = DRG is silly, DRG isnt even good, he just does funny builds in the amazing Bo1 formats lol. Proves he is not a good player when he takes like 3hours to beat QXC in a Code B semi final game, then loses to Hero in 20minutes lol. Cezzane was unlucky that DRG was going for a huge roach push if it had been like 2/3 minutes later he wouldnt of been able to move out with it. Vs hero he got lucky that Hero did not sim City xpo like every other protos does and got a cheap easy run by victory massing lings...hardly the best play you will ever see...Then vs NaDa he just about won after getting lucky Run Bys again when NaDa moving out. He is not the best player on MVP team, Genuis and Tails clearly are hense they are in code S (going to be for Tails) Keen is also better than DRG. Stop with the fanboy attitudes please!!
Apart from what everyone else allready pointed out DRG does not use "funny" builds. His builds are actually pretty standard.
And saying he got lucky with that roachpush, Cezzane had about 4 roaches and a bunch of spines going up: obviously he knows something fishy is going on and its better to push sooner rather than later.
In his match against Hero he knew what was going on and countered it perfectly.
And vs Nada he scouted very well for when nada was moving out to make the runby's. He also does this in alot of ZvT's succesfully.
Conclusion: He does not go for funny builds and he is not jus t"lucky".
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On July 07 2011 21:05 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 21:03 HolyArrow wrote:On July 07 2011 21:01 zeru wrote:On July 07 2011 21:00 Daray wrote:On July 07 2011 20:59 zeru wrote:
DRG can't get into code A, but wins some games in GSTL, fanboys in LR thread shout "next bonjwa"...what? It took bomber a long to get into Code A -> S and DRG 11-1 in gstl right now... must've gotten really lucky i guess :c I'm not shouting that bomber is gonna be the next bonjwa, or the best player in the world, or even the best terran in the world. People like you really need to stop focusing on things like Code A/Code S status to measure a player. You don't look at things like that - you look at what their gameplay looks like. Gameplay is a pure measurement of skill. Tournament status largely can rely on luck. I remember when some people were convinced that MKP would roll MMA because MKP had a ton of 2nd place finishes while MMA wasn't even Code S. But they made the mistake of looking at just standing and results, rather than gameplay itself. I'm sorry but if you can't even qualify for a tournament a single time (?) for however many seasons GSL has existed now, it's hard for me to believe that that player is the best of anything.
so you'd say players like TheBest are better than DRG? cause, y'know, he was once is code s
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