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Blackrobe
Profile Joined August 2010
United States806 Posts
July 05 2011 00:26 GMT
#1221
On July 05 2011 09:25 Jyvblamo wrote:
Does MLG have Quake in their circuit?

No.

But one can dream! :D
"To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future."
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
July 05 2011 00:27 GMT
#1222
On July 05 2011 09:25 BasedSwag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 09:23 Scrandom wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:21 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:19 Scrandom wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:18 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:16 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:15 Maliris wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:08 Slakter wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:06 Kevan wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:05 Adreme wrote:
[quote]


Honestly should have seen Halo2 which might have been most entertainign shooter i have ever seen.


Should have seen Halo:CE, best console shooter ever

Which doesnt really mean a lot ^^

I would not have a problem at all with Halo if it wasnt that they play it on an inferior format for competative gaming...

indeed, console fps is a joke


I understand saying a PC is the only way to play an RTS but you cant give me a good reason why an FPS has to be played on PC. (actually when Halo 1 was on PC it was terrible)


The reason is that mouse+keyboard controls have no skill ceiling on how well you can aim, whereas there is a limit to how fast you can turn on a 360 controller, lol.

Don't start with this PC elitist crap, If I took a top PC cs or quake gamer and made them play against pros on a console game they wouldnt get destroyed and exact same if I took a console pro and made them play on a PC.


Actually I think if you put someone like avek/toxqj/cypher by himself vs an entire team of Halo pros working together, he would win. I would bet thousands of dollars on this. (In Quake not Halo)


Ok, you're one of those people who absolutely refuse to believe anything other then the "PC master race", no point arguing with you at all.


I don't believe that being good at Halo or mastering gamepad controls takes no skill, it's just that the skills are not transferable at all to PC FPS and especially Quake. I would be willing to make the exact same bet for the best Call of Duty PC players.



The question is would you make the reverse bet and if you wouldnt then you are basically holding onto a theory that one takes way more skill than another which I have trouble accepting when no one has said anything to support it.
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 00:27:50
July 05 2011 00:27 GMT
#1223
I really wish Id didn't back off the idea of making a q3a style game in their new engine.. I love the simplicity of quake compared to all these new games with xp, classes and hats (though I used to love TF2)
ak1knight
Profile Joined April 2010
United States313 Posts
July 05 2011 00:27 GMT
#1224
On July 05 2011 09:21 BasedSwag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 09:19 Scrandom wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:18 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:16 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:15 Maliris wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:08 Slakter wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:06 Kevan wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:05 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:01 Juliette wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:00 bkrow wrote:
I don't know if i should say this out loud; but Reach is actually really entertaining..

I think i am going to go have a shower

should have seen halo 3

:3



Honestly should have seen Halo2 which might have been most entertainign shooter i have ever seen.


Should have seen Halo:CE, best console shooter ever

Which doesnt really mean a lot ^^

I would not have a problem at all with Halo if it wasnt that they play it on an inferior format for competative gaming...

indeed, console fps is a joke


I understand saying a PC is the only way to play an RTS but you cant give me a good reason why an FPS has to be played on PC. (actually when Halo 1 was on PC it was terrible)


The reason is that mouse+keyboard controls have no skill ceiling on how well you can aim, whereas there is a limit to how fast you can turn on a 360 controller, lol.

Don't start with this PC elitist crap, If I took a top PC cs or quake gamer and made them play against pros on a console game they wouldnt get destroyed and exact same if I took a console pro and made them play on a PC.


Actually I think if you put someone like avek/toxqj/cypher by himself vs an entire team of Halo pros working together, he would win. I would bet thousands of dollars on this. (In Quake not Halo)

What about the Quake 3 Arena for Xbox 360?
w00t
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 00:31:07
July 05 2011 00:27 GMT
#1225
On July 05 2011 09:23 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 09:21 Slakter wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:16 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:15 Maliris wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:08 Slakter wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:06 Kevan wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:05 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:01 Juliette wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:00 bkrow wrote:
I don't know if i should say this out loud; but Reach is actually really entertaining..

I think i am going to go have a shower

should have seen halo 3

:3



Honestly should have seen Halo2 which might have been most entertainign shooter i have ever seen.


Should have seen Halo:CE, best console shooter ever

Which doesnt really mean a lot ^^

I would not have a problem at all with Halo if it wasnt that they play it on an inferior format for competative gaming...

indeed, console fps is a joke


I understand saying a PC is the only way to play an RTS but you cant give me a good reason why an FPS has to be played on PC. (actually when Halo 1 was on PC it was terrible)

Better precision. Which is pretty much everything in FPS.


Seems like its easier precision not better precision which doenst strike me as better or worse just different.


Its like you could play SC2 with a Madcatz TE stick and if everyone did it it would be a level playing field, competitive and entertaining but it seems weird to use a worse tool for the job. That's why people including myself think console FPS is silly.

And anyone playing FPS with a keyboard and mouse will body anyone playing with a gamepad at top levels.
Stenstyren
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden619 Posts
July 05 2011 00:28 GMT
#1226
On July 05 2011 09:23 Scrandom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 09:21 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:19 Scrandom wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:18 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:16 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:15 Maliris wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:08 Slakter wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:06 Kevan wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:05 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:01 Juliette wrote:
[quote]
should have seen halo 3

:3



Honestly should have seen Halo2 which might have been most entertainign shooter i have ever seen.


Should have seen Halo:CE, best console shooter ever

Which doesnt really mean a lot ^^

I would not have a problem at all with Halo if it wasnt that they play it on an inferior format for competative gaming...

indeed, console fps is a joke


I understand saying a PC is the only way to play an RTS but you cant give me a good reason why an FPS has to be played on PC. (actually when Halo 1 was on PC it was terrible)


The reason is that mouse+keyboard controls have no skill ceiling on how well you can aim, whereas there is a limit to how fast you can turn on a 360 controller, lol.

Don't start with this PC elitist crap, If I took a top PC cs or quake gamer and made them play against pros on a console game they wouldnt get destroyed and exact same if I took a console pro and made them play on a PC.


Actually I think if you put someone like avek/toxqj/cypher by himself vs an entire team of Halo pros working together, he would win. I would bet thousands of dollars on this. (In Quake not Halo)


Ok, you're one of those people who absolutely refuse to believe anything other then the "PC master race", no point arguing with you at all.

wow sweet ninja edit with the (in quake not halo) . You didn't even read my comment correctly. I said that Console pros will beat the best pc pros on in a console game and vice versa. Please read what I wrote


Just as Rapha would own the entire Halo team in Quake, one Halo player would own 4
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
July 05 2011 00:28 GMT
#1227
On July 05 2011 09:25 Jyvblamo wrote:
Does MLG have Quake in their circuit?

That's a negative.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
BasedSwag
Profile Joined April 2010
Algeria418 Posts
July 05 2011 00:29 GMT
#1228
On July 05 2011 09:27 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 09:25 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:23 Scrandom wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:21 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:19 Scrandom wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:18 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:16 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:15 Maliris wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:08 Slakter wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:06 Kevan wrote:
[quote]

Should have seen Halo:CE, best console shooter ever

Which doesnt really mean a lot ^^

I would not have a problem at all with Halo if it wasnt that they play it on an inferior format for competative gaming...

indeed, console fps is a joke


I understand saying a PC is the only way to play an RTS but you cant give me a good reason why an FPS has to be played on PC. (actually when Halo 1 was on PC it was terrible)


The reason is that mouse+keyboard controls have no skill ceiling on how well you can aim, whereas there is a limit to how fast you can turn on a 360 controller, lol.

Don't start with this PC elitist crap, If I took a top PC cs or quake gamer and made them play against pros on a console game they wouldnt get destroyed and exact same if I took a console pro and made them play on a PC.


Actually I think if you put someone like avek/toxqj/cypher by himself vs an entire team of Halo pros working together, he would win. I would bet thousands of dollars on this. (In Quake not Halo)


Ok, you're one of those people who absolutely refuse to believe anything other then the "PC master race", no point arguing with you at all.


I don't believe that being good at Halo or mastering gamepad controls takes no skill, it's just that the skills are not transferable at all to PC FPS and especially Quake. I would be willing to make the exact same bet for the best Call of Duty PC players.



The question is would you make the reverse bet and if you wouldnt then you are basically holding onto a theory that one takes way more skill than another which I have trouble accepting when no one has said anything to support it.


I don't think a Quake pro would win vs a Halo pro in Halo but I think it takes about 1000x less skill to get good at.
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 00:31:12
July 05 2011 00:29 GMT
#1229
On July 05 2011 09:28 Stenstyren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 09:23 Scrandom wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:21 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:19 Scrandom wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:18 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:16 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:15 Maliris wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:08 Slakter wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:06 Kevan wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:05 Adreme wrote:
[quote]


Honestly should have seen Halo2 which might have been most entertainign shooter i have ever seen.


Should have seen Halo:CE, best console shooter ever

Which doesnt really mean a lot ^^

I would not have a problem at all with Halo if it wasnt that they play it on an inferior format for competative gaming...

indeed, console fps is a joke


I understand saying a PC is the only way to play an RTS but you cant give me a good reason why an FPS has to be played on PC. (actually when Halo 1 was on PC it was terrible)


The reason is that mouse+keyboard controls have no skill ceiling on how well you can aim, whereas there is a limit to how fast you can turn on a 360 controller, lol.

Don't start with this PC elitist crap, If I took a top PC cs or quake gamer and made them play against pros on a console game they wouldnt get destroyed and exact same if I took a console pro and made them play on a PC.


Actually I think if you put someone like avek/toxqj/cypher by himself vs an entire team of Halo pros working together, he would win. I would bet thousands of dollars on this. (In Quake not Halo)


Ok, you're one of those people who absolutely refuse to believe anything other then the "PC master race", no point arguing with you at all.

wow sweet ninja edit with the (in quake not halo) . You didn't even read my comment correctly. I said that Console pros will beat the best pc pros on in a console game and vice versa. Please read what I wrote


Just as Rapha would own the entire Halo team in Quake, one Halo player would own 4


Exactly, It's nice to see some people are understanding my point and actually read what I said properly.
On July 05 2011 09:29 BasedSwag wrote:
I don't think a Quake pro would win vs a Halo pro in Halo but I think it takes about 1000x less skill to get good at.



If that's the case then why can't quake pros instantly become gods if it's 1000x easier
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
July 05 2011 00:30 GMT
#1230
On July 05 2011 09:23 Scrandom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 09:21 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:19 Scrandom wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:18 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:16 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:15 Maliris wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:08 Slakter wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:06 Kevan wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:05 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:01 Juliette wrote:
[quote]
should have seen halo 3

:3



Honestly should have seen Halo2 which might have been most entertainign shooter i have ever seen.


Should have seen Halo:CE, best console shooter ever

Which doesnt really mean a lot ^^

I would not have a problem at all with Halo if it wasnt that they play it on an inferior format for competative gaming...

indeed, console fps is a joke


I understand saying a PC is the only way to play an RTS but you cant give me a good reason why an FPS has to be played on PC. (actually when Halo 1 was on PC it was terrible)


The reason is that mouse+keyboard controls have no skill ceiling on how well you can aim, whereas there is a limit to how fast you can turn on a 360 controller, lol.

Don't start with this PC elitist crap, If I took a top PC cs or quake gamer and made them play against pros on a console game they wouldnt get destroyed and exact same if I took a console pro and made them play on a PC.


Actually I think if you put someone like avek/toxqj/cypher by himself vs an entire team of Halo pros working together, he would win. I would bet thousands of dollars on this. (In Quake not Halo)


Ok, you're one of those people who absolutely refuse to believe anything other then the "PC master race", no point arguing with you at all.

Ok, you're one of those people who believe console FPS games are competitive, no point arguing with you at all.
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Stenstyren
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden619 Posts
July 05 2011 00:30 GMT
#1231
On July 05 2011 09:23 Scrandom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 09:21 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:19 Scrandom wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:18 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:16 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:15 Maliris wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:08 Slakter wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:06 Kevan wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:05 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:01 Juliette wrote:
[quote]
should have seen halo 3

:3



Honestly should have seen Halo2 which might have been most entertainign shooter i have ever seen.


Should have seen Halo:CE, best console shooter ever

Which doesnt really mean a lot ^^

I would not have a problem at all with Halo if it wasnt that they play it on an inferior format for competative gaming...

indeed, console fps is a joke


I understand saying a PC is the only way to play an RTS but you cant give me a good reason why an FPS has to be played on PC. (actually when Halo 1 was on PC it was terrible)


The reason is that mouse+keyboard controls have no skill ceiling on how well you can aim, whereas there is a limit to how fast you can turn on a 360 controller, lol.

Don't start with this PC elitist crap, If I took a top PC cs or quake gamer and made them play against pros on a console game they wouldnt get destroyed and exact same if I took a console pro and made them play on a PC.


Actually I think if you put someone like avek/toxqj/cypher by himself vs an entire team of Halo pros working together, he would win. I would bet thousands of dollars on this. (In Quake not Halo)


Ok, you're one of those people who absolutely refuse to believe anything other then the "PC master race", no point arguing with you at all.

wow sweet ninja edit with the (in quake not halo) . You didn't even read my comment correctly. I said that Console pros will beat the best pc pros on in a console game and vice versa. Please read what I wrote


Just as Rapha would own the entire Halo team in Quake, one Halo player would own 4 Quake players in Halo.
The difference is in controls. A mouse takes more skill to control since it can move insanely fast with the right settings. It does not have an infinite skillcap but the cap is much higher then any human can ever hope to achieve.

A gamepad has a set (pretty low) speed that limits the skillceiling.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
July 05 2011 00:30 GMT
#1232
On July 05 2011 09:27 MoonfireSpam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 09:23 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:21 Slakter wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:16 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:15 Maliris wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:08 Slakter wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:06 Kevan wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:05 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:01 Juliette wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:00 bkrow wrote:
I don't know if i should say this out loud; but Reach is actually really entertaining..

I think i am going to go have a shower

should have seen halo 3

:3



Honestly should have seen Halo2 which might have been most entertainign shooter i have ever seen.


Should have seen Halo:CE, best console shooter ever

Which doesnt really mean a lot ^^

I would not have a problem at all with Halo if it wasnt that they play it on an inferior format for competative gaming...

indeed, console fps is a joke


I understand saying a PC is the only way to play an RTS but you cant give me a good reason why an FPS has to be played on PC. (actually when Halo 1 was on PC it was terrible)

Better precision. Which is pretty much everything in FPS.


Seems like its easier precision not better precision which doenst strike me as better or worse just different.


Its like you could play SC2 with a Madcatz TE stick and if everyone did it it would be a level playing field, competitive and entertaining but it seems weird to use a worse tool for the job. That's why people including myself think console FPS is silly.


To me the controller is the better tool for the job. Ive used both and aiming in PC shooters is laughably easy just as it is in console shooters. Once you figure out sensitivity for both you have basically locked yourself in to a mass amount of headshots. I am sure it is odd for a PC gamer and difficult even to use a console controller because it is different and it takes time to adjust to just like going from xbox to ps3 takes a few mins even for an experienced gamer.
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
July 05 2011 00:31 GMT
#1233
Look at the speed of halo and then look at the speed of quake. That is the difference between a game that is made with the limits of analogue stick controls in mind and a game with the utility of a mouse and keyboard in mind.
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
July 05 2011 00:31 GMT
#1234
On July 05 2011 09:29 Scrandom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 09:28 Stenstyren wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:23 Scrandom wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:21 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:19 Scrandom wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:18 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:16 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:15 Maliris wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:08 Slakter wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:06 Kevan wrote:
[quote]

Should have seen Halo:CE, best console shooter ever

Which doesnt really mean a lot ^^

I would not have a problem at all with Halo if it wasnt that they play it on an inferior format for competative gaming...

indeed, console fps is a joke


I understand saying a PC is the only way to play an RTS but you cant give me a good reason why an FPS has to be played on PC. (actually when Halo 1 was on PC it was terrible)


The reason is that mouse+keyboard controls have no skill ceiling on how well you can aim, whereas there is a limit to how fast you can turn on a 360 controller, lol.

Don't start with this PC elitist crap, If I took a top PC cs or quake gamer and made them play against pros on a console game they wouldnt get destroyed and exact same if I took a console pro and made them play on a PC.


Actually I think if you put someone like avek/toxqj/cypher by himself vs an entire team of Halo pros working together, he would win. I would bet thousands of dollars on this. (In Quake not Halo)


Ok, you're one of those people who absolutely refuse to believe anything other then the "PC master race", no point arguing with you at all.

wow sweet ninja edit with the (in quake not halo) . You didn't even read my comment correctly. I said that Console pros will beat the best pc pros on in a console game and vice versa. Please read what I wrote


Just as Rapha would own the entire Halo team in Quake, one Halo player would own 4


Exactly, It's nice to see some people are understanding my point and actually read what I said properly.

You didn't even have a point. You responded to someone that said m+k has a higher skill ceiling because of practically infinite precision, unlike a console controller, which is true, and said blabla PC elitist blabla. You're the one that started this argument over nothing. You asked for it. What did you expect?
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
July 05 2011 00:32 GMT
#1235
On July 05 2011 09:30 Stenstyren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 09:23 Scrandom wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:21 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:19 Scrandom wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:18 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:16 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:15 Maliris wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:08 Slakter wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:06 Kevan wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:05 Adreme wrote:
[quote]


Honestly should have seen Halo2 which might have been most entertainign shooter i have ever seen.


Should have seen Halo:CE, best console shooter ever

Which doesnt really mean a lot ^^

I would not have a problem at all with Halo if it wasnt that they play it on an inferior format for competative gaming...

indeed, console fps is a joke


I understand saying a PC is the only way to play an RTS but you cant give me a good reason why an FPS has to be played on PC. (actually when Halo 1 was on PC it was terrible)


The reason is that mouse+keyboard controls have no skill ceiling on how well you can aim, whereas there is a limit to how fast you can turn on a 360 controller, lol.

Don't start with this PC elitist crap, If I took a top PC cs or quake gamer and made them play against pros on a console game they wouldnt get destroyed and exact same if I took a console pro and made them play on a PC.


Actually I think if you put someone like avek/toxqj/cypher by himself vs an entire team of Halo pros working together, he would win. I would bet thousands of dollars on this. (In Quake not Halo)


Ok, you're one of those people who absolutely refuse to believe anything other then the "PC master race", no point arguing with you at all.

wow sweet ninja edit with the (in quake not halo) . You didn't even read my comment correctly. I said that Console pros will beat the best pc pros on in a console game and vice versa. Please read what I wrote


Just as Rapha would own the entire Halo team in Quake, one Halo player would own 4 Quake players in Halo.
The difference is in controls. A mouse takes more skill to control since it can move insanely fast with the right settings. It does not have an infinite skillcap but the cap is much higher then any human can ever hope to achieve.

A gamepad has a set (pretty low) speed that limits the skillceiling.


If you ever saw any halo game (beyond CE) on 10 sensitivity then saying one moves way way faster than another would almost be considered funny.
bertu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil871 Posts
July 05 2011 00:32 GMT
#1236
On July 05 2011 09:23 Quotidian wrote:
mhm.. quake live. I can respect that.


Ditto. I have so much respect for this game, its right up there with broodwar. Great to watch as well.
SEKO SEKO SEKO
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
July 05 2011 00:32 GMT
#1237
Never watched or played Quake before today but it's pretty entertaining. I've learned enough watching a few matches to pick up the basics of the game.

Although I don't know what they mean by 'rail' or what gun that is. Like I don't know the name of the lightning gun thing and the laser gun. I'm assuming one is the railgun?
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
July 05 2011 00:32 GMT
#1238
On July 05 2011 09:31 vrok wrote:
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On July 05 2011 09:29 Scrandom wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:28 Stenstyren wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:23 Scrandom wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:21 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:19 Scrandom wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:18 BasedSwag wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:16 Adreme wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:15 Maliris wrote:
On July 05 2011 09:08 Slakter wrote:
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Which doesnt really mean a lot ^^

I would not have a problem at all with Halo if it wasnt that they play it on an inferior format for competative gaming...

indeed, console fps is a joke


I understand saying a PC is the only way to play an RTS but you cant give me a good reason why an FPS has to be played on PC. (actually when Halo 1 was on PC it was terrible)


The reason is that mouse+keyboard controls have no skill ceiling on how well you can aim, whereas there is a limit to how fast you can turn on a 360 controller, lol.

Don't start with this PC elitist crap, If I took a top PC cs or quake gamer and made them play against pros on a console game they wouldnt get destroyed and exact same if I took a console pro and made them play on a PC.


Actually I think if you put someone like avek/toxqj/cypher by himself vs an entire team of Halo pros working together, he would win. I would bet thousands of dollars on this. (In Quake not Halo)


Ok, you're one of those people who absolutely refuse to believe anything other then the "PC master race", no point arguing with you at all.

wow sweet ninja edit with the (in quake not halo) . You didn't even read my comment correctly. I said that Console pros will beat the best pc pros on in a console game and vice versa. Please read what I wrote


Just as Rapha would own the entire Halo team in Quake, one Halo player would own 4


Exactly, It's nice to see some people are understanding my point and actually read what I said properly.

You didn't even have a point. You responded to someone that said m+k has a higher skill ceiling because of practically infinite precision, unlike a console controller, which is true, and said blabla PC elitist blabla. You're the one that started this argument over nothing. You asked for it. What did you expect?


Either you are quoting the wrong person or you haven't been reading what I said
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
July 05 2011 00:33 GMT
#1239
Why does it always boil down to some X vs Y discussion ;>?
Quake is a great game, I love it, and I have to say Reach impressed me somewhat, seeing as I stopped caring about Halo around 2-3, but it does look decent.
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Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
July 05 2011 00:33 GMT
#1240
On July 05 2011 09:32 Charger wrote:
Never watched or played Quake before today but it's pretty entertaining. I've learned enough watching a few matches to pick up the basics of the game.

Although I don't know what they mean by 'rail' or what gun that is. Like I don't know the name of the lightning gun thing and the laser gun. I'm assuming one is the railgun?

The laser one is the railgun yes, basically a sniper.
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