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dredd276
Profile Joined October 2010
United States80 Posts
June 29 2011 07:53 GMT
#1901
On June 29 2011 16:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 15:27 Executor1 wrote:
On June 29 2011 15:25 ZzZBored wrote:
CHINROOOOLED
Shinystar choked SO HARD on that drop...

His warpgate was on cooldown and he couldnt lose position or he wouldnt even be on 1 mining base as his main was mined out and he had just started the nexus at his natural. So basically if he pulled back he was guaranteed to lose his gold.

He made the right choice, but jinro made a super smart choice with that drop to put him in an extremely akward position.

I dont know if it worked or no since I dont have maphack vision while playing, but I was trying to attack before dropping so he would warp units.

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 15:26 Demonace34 wrote:
Felt sad when I first saw him in the booth looking depressed and stressed. Now I feel so much better that we got a head bob and a fuck yeah from Jinro, well played man.

Not stressed or depressed, just very tired, I got home to Korea yesterday and had to stay up until 3 am to wait for NASL qualifiers to start etc :< Some pretty erratic sleep - stayed up all night the day before flying, slept for 1-2 hours Ger-Finland, slept the first 3 hours of Ger-KOR, got home to the oGs house at like 11 am, ate lunch/breakfast, practiced some, slept for a couple of hours from 2 to 4, tried playing but had to sleep some more :D Played some, tried playing Geforce and NASL but couldnt cuz US server was down. Went to sleep at 3 am.


God dammit Jinro, how are you so f-ing cool man. Coming on after you win and posting like a boss.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
June 29 2011 07:53 GMT
#1902
On June 29 2011 16:44 Yang Wenli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 16:37 StyLeD wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:34 Yang Wenli wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:29 papaz wrote:
in a way it's good BoxeR got knocked out.

I believe he has the skill to be up there in Code S. But watching him play it's clear he doesn't practice enough.

Not like BoxeR doesn't know he is a bit sloppy, he misses upgrades etc.

Ofc he knows but I feel he does much more with his team and not getting enough practice.

Now, he has to decide what the hell he should do and i hope he decided to be a player!


Slayers Jessica the team manager and his girlfriend in an interview says Boxer practices as much if not most out of all the Slayers players. Practice and live play are clearly two different things and at Boxer's age he can't perform as well as he should or wants to.


I don't even understand this age thing. People are acting like age 30 is age 60 and you develop arthritis and shit.

Nestea plays at an incredibly top level and he's just about as old as Boxer is. I think it depends on a player-by-player basis. Maybe Boxer had some injuries to his hands back in the BW days, I don't know, but SC2 is easy enough (WhiteRa can attest to this, hehe) that even Sjow and his ~130 apm can play...


If you read the Interview, Boxer has a big chip on his shoulder. Unlike White-ra or Nestea Boxer feels he carries a lot of burden to be very successful and accomplished what he did in BW over to SC2. Again its a difficult task, not only is he pushing his body to the limits but refusing adamantly to abandon his brood war style of play.


Ok fair enough. Maybe he does practice. Maybe I am just a blind fanboy but there are some things I have hard time believing:

1. BoxeR hasn't the talent/skill to be up there in Code S.
2. His age is what is keeping him behind.

What has happened at age 30 in his body that he can't play SC2 at top level?

The age thing is only an argument that comes on these forums. There are so many sports that are so much more demanding on your body than SC2 ever will be but age is not nearly as much mentioned as SC2 fans specially here in TL forums.

Someone needs to tell Nicklas Lidstsröm in Detroid Redwings that at age 41 he shouldn't have won the James Norris Memorial Trophy for being the NHL's best defensive player. At age 30 his physical skills should have deteriorated to the point he event couldn't played SC2 in a high level because the amount of strength and speed you need to move the mouse and press the keyboard is too demanding.

And lets not even talk about the reaction time you need to play sc2. At age 30 your brain has basically given up so the average reaction time from 0.2 seconds have gone up to what, 2-3 seconds?

Seriously, stop the age debate. Its really embarrassing that video-game-players talk about their game like it is the most demanding thing on earth on body and mind. These are the things that make people laugh at e-sports communities.
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
June 29 2011 07:53 GMT
#1903
On June 29 2011 16:48 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 16:45 MechKing wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:40 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:36 MechKing wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:32 MechKing wrote:
So happy that asd won! :D


Troll harder, son.

What is there to troll about? He's a better player.


I don't know if you understand the concept of how huge fan followings works, but when there are tons of sad, disappointed people in the topic due to how arguably the most iconic e-Sports figure has been knocked out (this isn't exactly fanboy talk, BoxeR's fame and fanbase can't be understated) , it's not exactly tactful to just go "Yay, asd won!" What I don't get is why you didn't keep it to yourself. Are you actually an asd fan? Typically, people don't just post "So happy that ___ won!" just because the winner was a better player. They do that when a player that they're a huge fan of wins. Thus, it seems like you're trolling because you're unnecessarily gloating with a rather weak argument for doing so.

Lol I liked nuclear's play so I was happy that he won. Am I not allowed to say that? Don't be ridiculous.


He didn't play that great... there were tons of mistakes. What did you like about it?

I liked how he had that small force of bio running around nears boxer's expos to keep him pinned back. If boxer tried to move out he can just stim in and quickly kill an expo. I also liked how he used drops in both games. He always was good at knowing when to attack and pull back too. Whenever Boxer's hellions got too ahead he would stim and kill a few and maybe a couple of tanks and then fall back. He did really well with his siege tanks, keeping them back and using his bio force to whittle down Boxer's army. Also, he didn't just siege up one area and leave one open to attack, he would move his tanks around and siege at just the right moment. Is that enough fOu?
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
June 29 2011 07:54 GMT
#1904
On June 29 2011 16:45 MechKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 16:40 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:36 MechKing wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:32 MechKing wrote:
So happy that asd won! :D


Troll harder, son.

What is there to troll about? He's a better player.


I don't know if you understand the concept of how huge fan followings works, but when there are tons of sad, disappointed people in the topic due to how arguably the most iconic e-Sports figure has been knocked out (this isn't exactly fanboy talk, BoxeR's fame and fanbase can't be understated) , it's not exactly tactful to just go "Yay, asd won!" What I don't get is why you didn't keep it to yourself. Are you actually an asd fan? Typically, people don't just post "So happy that ___ won!" just because the winner was a better player. They do that when a player that they're a huge fan of wins. Thus, it seems like you're trolling because you're unnecessarily gloating with a rather weak argument for doing so.

Lol I liked nuclear's play so I was happy that he won. Am I not allowed to say that? Don't be ridiculous.


You're missing my point. I'm not trying to dictate who you're allowed to cheer for. Obviously, you're allowed to cheer for anyone, and I would strongly argue for anyone's right to do so. However, having the right to do so doesn't make it insensitive at times. Almost everyone is really sad that BoxeR is out, and then, you, not even a big asd fan, but simply someone who liked his play in a single series, feels the need to post about how happy you are that asd won. It's just insensitive and unnecessary given its context, and that's why it annoyed me. It feels like you're just basking in the schadenfreude.
ineq
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden376 Posts
June 29 2011 07:55 GMT
#1905
Jinro FIGHTING, ro8 seems really doable, Code S is not that far off!
HerO - iNcontroL - DeMusliM - TaeJa - JaeDong
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
June 29 2011 07:57 GMT
#1906
Just goes to show how volatile this game is. Extremely strange, I don't know, call it what you will but MMA was silver in the super tourney last month and now he's code B, boxer was top 4 in an earlier round of code S, fruitdealer was the first winner and now he has disappeared off the face of the earth. I'm not so sure that it's a result of gameplay evolution.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
June 29 2011 07:58 GMT
#1907
On June 29 2011 16:53 papaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 16:44 Yang Wenli wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:37 StyLeD wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:34 Yang Wenli wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:29 papaz wrote:
in a way it's good BoxeR got knocked out.

I believe he has the skill to be up there in Code S. But watching him play it's clear he doesn't practice enough.

Not like BoxeR doesn't know he is a bit sloppy, he misses upgrades etc.

Ofc he knows but I feel he does much more with his team and not getting enough practice.

Now, he has to decide what the hell he should do and i hope he decided to be a player!


Slayers Jessica the team manager and his girlfriend in an interview says Boxer practices as much if not most out of all the Slayers players. Practice and live play are clearly two different things and at Boxer's age he can't perform as well as he should or wants to.


I don't even understand this age thing. People are acting like age 30 is age 60 and you develop arthritis and shit.

Nestea plays at an incredibly top level and he's just about as old as Boxer is. I think it depends on a player-by-player basis. Maybe Boxer had some injuries to his hands back in the BW days, I don't know, but SC2 is easy enough (WhiteRa can attest to this, hehe) that even Sjow and his ~130 apm can play...


If you read the Interview, Boxer has a big chip on his shoulder. Unlike White-ra or Nestea Boxer feels he carries a lot of burden to be very successful and accomplished what he did in BW over to SC2. Again its a difficult task, not only is he pushing his body to the limits but refusing adamantly to abandon his brood war style of play.


Ok fair enough. Maybe he does practice. Maybe I am just a blind fanboy but there are some things I have hard time believing:

1. BoxeR hasn't the talent/skill to be up there in Code S.
2. His age is what is keeping him behind.

What has happened at age 30 in his body that he can't play SC2 at top level?

The age thing is only an argument that comes on these forums. There are so many sports that are so much more demanding on your body than SC2 ever will be but age is not nearly as much mentioned as SC2 fans specially here in TL forums.

Someone needs to tell Nicklas Lidstsröm in Detroid Redwings that at age 41 he shouldn't have won the James Norris Memorial Trophy for being the NHL's best defensive player. At age 30 his physical skills should have deteriorated to the point he event couldn't played SC2 in a high level because the amount of strength and speed you need to move the mouse and press the keyboard is too demanding.

And lets not even talk about the reaction time you need to play sc2. At age 30 your brain has basically given up so the average reaction time from 0.2 seconds have gone up to what, 2-3 seconds?

Seriously, stop the age debate. Its really embarrassing that video-game-players talk about their game like it is the most demanding thing on earth on body and mind. These are the things that make people laugh at e-sports communities.

No he's just not a good player, it's not his age. He was out of BW by 2004 when he lost to Oov in the OSL Finals. He was never really good after that, and even in his dominance his macro was never that of YelloW. That's why most of their games he rushed him, like his Bunker Rush 3x in that same OSL's Semifinals. I love BoxeR, but he gets way too much credit. It's not his age or anything like that, he's just not that good. Sorry to break it to you.
MKP||TSL
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
June 29 2011 07:58 GMT
#1908
On June 29 2011 16:55 ineq wrote:
Jinro FIGHTING, ro8 seems really doable, Code S is not that far off!

Yeah, I think with some practice and focus and ofc some luck. Jinro can make it to code S this season. But I think the pressure is quite big on Jinro's shoulder. Hope things can get through perfectly after this 1st round wins.
Jinro go go go !!!
Still sad cos Boxer lost...but then I don't have tear myself apart in the next round
Terran
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 29 2011 08:00 GMT
#1909
On June 29 2011 16:55 ineq wrote:
Jinro FIGHTING, ro8 seems really doable, Code S is not that far off!


I think Jinro can win all of Code A. It'll take some work (Jinro fighting!), but it's doable.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 29 2011 08:00 GMT
#1910
On June 29 2011 16:54 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 16:45 MechKing wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:40 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:36 MechKing wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:32 MechKing wrote:
So happy that asd won! :D


Troll harder, son.

What is there to troll about? He's a better player.


I don't know if you understand the concept of how huge fan followings works, but when there are tons of sad, disappointed people in the topic due to how arguably the most iconic e-Sports figure has been knocked out (this isn't exactly fanboy talk, BoxeR's fame and fanbase can't be understated) , it's not exactly tactful to just go "Yay, asd won!" What I don't get is why you didn't keep it to yourself. Are you actually an asd fan? Typically, people don't just post "So happy that ___ won!" just because the winner was a better player. They do that when a player that they're a huge fan of wins. Thus, it seems like you're trolling because you're unnecessarily gloating with a rather weak argument for doing so.

Lol I liked nuclear's play so I was happy that he won. Am I not allowed to say that? Don't be ridiculous.


You're missing my point. I'm not trying to dictate who you're allowed to cheer for. Obviously, you're allowed to cheer for anyone, and I would strongly argue for anyone's right to do so. However, having the right to do so doesn't make it insensitive at times. Almost everyone is really sad that BoxeR is out, and then, you, not even a big asd fan, but simply someone who liked his play in a single series, feels the need to post about how happy you are that asd won. It's just insensitive and unnecessary given its context, and that's why it annoyed me. It feels like you're just basking in the schadenfreude.


I really think he just wanted to see Boxer go. I don't understand why he would be "So happy" after one series unless he wanted to see Boxer fall.

I could definitely understand someone saying "asd played well and deserved the win" and yes I have to agree with what you said as it kind of ties in with what I am saying. You are entitled to cheer for who you want to, but when an iconic figure loses and you are "so happy" even though you have barely seen the guy play... it looks a lot more like you are just saying "HAHAHA BOXER IS OUT! IN YOUR FACES FANS OF BOXER!"

Obviously no one is actually suggesting that MechKing is going to anything near that extent, but I'm sure you get the point. I can only guess he wasn't a Boxer fan, and possibly even disliked the following Boxer had in sc2 based on what he has seen. All speculation though.
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
June 29 2011 08:02 GMT
#1911
Ok so:

Yay Happy
Yay Yugioh
YAY JINRO
NOOOOO BOXERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
June 29 2011 08:03 GMT
#1912
Wish jinro's bracket allowed him to play Happy only at the finals This way I'm hyping a Happy vs Yoda finals! IM Fighting
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: IMNestea (Death), IMLosirA (Famine), IMmvp (War), IMFenix (Conquest)
Ausfailia
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia123 Posts
June 29 2011 08:03 GMT
#1913
On June 29 2011 16:55 ineq wrote:
Jinro FIGHTING, ro8 seems really doable, Code S is not that far off!


asd will be a tough opponent... but I have faith. Gogo Jinro!
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 29 2011 08:06 GMT
#1914
Oh yeah, and since a whole lot of Terrans have been flubbing this lately: Jinro, REALLY nice Missile Turret placement.
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
June 29 2011 08:06 GMT
#1915
On June 29 2011 17:00 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 16:54 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:45 MechKing wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:40 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:36 MechKing wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:32 MechKing wrote:
So happy that asd won! :D


Troll harder, son.

What is there to troll about? He's a better player.


I don't know if you understand the concept of how huge fan followings works, but when there are tons of sad, disappointed people in the topic due to how arguably the most iconic e-Sports figure has been knocked out (this isn't exactly fanboy talk, BoxeR's fame and fanbase can't be understated) , it's not exactly tactful to just go "Yay, asd won!" What I don't get is why you didn't keep it to yourself. Are you actually an asd fan? Typically, people don't just post "So happy that ___ won!" just because the winner was a better player. They do that when a player that they're a huge fan of wins. Thus, it seems like you're trolling because you're unnecessarily gloating with a rather weak argument for doing so.

Lol I liked nuclear's play so I was happy that he won. Am I not allowed to say that? Don't be ridiculous.


You're missing my point. I'm not trying to dictate who you're allowed to cheer for. Obviously, you're allowed to cheer for anyone, and I would strongly argue for anyone's right to do so. However, having the right to do so doesn't make it insensitive at times. Almost everyone is really sad that BoxeR is out, and then, you, not even a big asd fan, but simply someone who liked his play in a single series, feels the need to post about how happy you are that asd won. It's just insensitive and unnecessary given its context, and that's why it annoyed me. It feels like you're just basking in the schadenfreude.


I really think he just wanted to see Boxer go. I don't understand why he would be "So happy" after one series unless he wanted to see Boxer fall.

I could definitely understand someone saying "asd played well and deserved the win" and yes I have to agree with what you said as it kind of ties in with what I am saying. You are entitled to cheer for who you want to, but when an iconic figure loses and you are "so happy" even though you have barely seen the guy play... it looks a lot more like you are just saying "HAHAHA BOXER IS OUT! IN YOUR FACES FANS OF BOXER!"

Obviously no one is actually suggesting that MechKing is going to anything near that extent, but I'm sure you get the point. I can only guess he wasn't a Boxer fan, and possibly even disliked the following Boxer had in sc2 based on what he has seen. All speculation though.

I actually don't hate boxer though xD I thought he played pretty well today. I loved how he went blue flame + tank in the beginning to force marauders but then transitioned into pure marine tank. It was really smart. I really liked his series vs. the gracken too, it was funny how he did the proxy 2 rax bunker rush in each game I just like rooting for the underdog a lot lol, and also that I like seeing new players play in the GSL.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
June 29 2011 08:07 GMT
#1916
On June 29 2011 17:00 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 16:54 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:45 MechKing wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:40 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:36 MechKing wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 29 2011 16:32 MechKing wrote:
So happy that asd won! :D


Troll harder, son.

What is there to troll about? He's a better player.


I don't know if you understand the concept of how huge fan followings works, but when there are tons of sad, disappointed people in the topic due to how arguably the most iconic e-Sports figure has been knocked out (this isn't exactly fanboy talk, BoxeR's fame and fanbase can't be understated) , it's not exactly tactful to just go "Yay, asd won!" What I don't get is why you didn't keep it to yourself. Are you actually an asd fan? Typically, people don't just post "So happy that ___ won!" just because the winner was a better player. They do that when a player that they're a huge fan of wins. Thus, it seems like you're trolling because you're unnecessarily gloating with a rather weak argument for doing so.

Lol I liked nuclear's play so I was happy that he won. Am I not allowed to say that? Don't be ridiculous.


You're missing my point. I'm not trying to dictate who you're allowed to cheer for. Obviously, you're allowed to cheer for anyone, and I would strongly argue for anyone's right to do so. However, having the right to do so doesn't make it insensitive at times. Almost everyone is really sad that BoxeR is out, and then, you, not even a big asd fan, but simply someone who liked his play in a single series, feels the need to post about how happy you are that asd won. It's just insensitive and unnecessary given its context, and that's why it annoyed me. It feels like you're just basking in the schadenfreude.


I really think he just wanted to see Boxer go. I don't understand why he would be "So happy" after one series unless he wanted to see Boxer fall.

I could definitely understand someone saying "asd played well and deserved the win" and yes I have to agree with what you said as it kind of ties in with what I am saying. You are entitled to cheer for who you want to, but when an iconic figure loses and you are "so happy" even though you have barely seen the guy play... it looks a lot more like you are just saying "HAHAHA BOXER IS OUT! IN YOUR FACES FANS OF BOXER!"

Obviously no one is actually suggesting that MechKing is going to anything near that extent, but I'm sure you get the point. I can only guess he wasn't a Boxer fan, and possibly even disliked the following Boxer had in sc2 based on what he has seen. All speculation though.


Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. Not to mention that there's not many reasons you'd dislike BoxeR. Sure, you can argue that it's all subjective and that opinions should be respected, but when there's an individual who has so many great qualities - a huge passion for e-Sports, lots of loyalty to his fans, extremely hardworking and driven, a great sportsman with a great attitude, having done a ton for e-Sports in general, it just seems inappropriate to actively dislike him if you're actually a fan of e-Sports. Even if you're not a fan of his play, what he's accomplished in the past and the amount of people, prestige, and general attention that he's attracted to e-Sports really should be acknowledged and respected. Thus, it just seems like the gloating was extremely annoying and unnecessary, and I wouldn't really make this argument for any other player.
Corvette
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States433 Posts
June 29 2011 08:08 GMT
#1917
On June 29 2011 16:57 shadymmj wrote:
Just goes to show how volatile this game is. Extremely strange, I don't know, call it what you will but MMA was silver in the super tourney last month and now he's code B, boxer was top 4 in an earlier round of code S, fruitdealer was the first winner and now he has disappeared off the face of the earth. I'm not so sure that it's a result of gameplay evolution.


MMA got to the finals of the super tourney by only having to TvT the whole way through.

Polt had tons of MMA's games and MKP to help him find MMA's weaknesses.

MMA has never been known for his tvp.
He lost to huk in the up and down. He lost to another toss putting him back down in Code B

As for fruitdealer.
Yes, you can call that a result of gameplay evolution. FD was/is a risky player, when the game is newer and safe builds are not as established yet, risks are more likely to succeed.

Also, When boxer was top 4, that was early on as well. IIRC that was over/about 6 months ago.
Plenty of time for evolution
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
June 29 2011 08:08 GMT
#1918
Can someone point me to Boxer's profile on sc2ranks.com? I'm having no luck finding it right now.
ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
June 29 2011 08:08 GMT
#1919
On June 29 2011 17:06 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Oh yeah, and since a whole lot of Terrans have been flubbing this lately: Jinro, REALLY nice Missile Turret placement.


Yeah, I swear, Jinro has freakin' gosu missile turret placement. Remember the game against San in the group stages last season, when his turret placement denied scouting until the MASS BANSHEE FORCE was prepped?

(best build ever, I swear. I'd love to see that again, just 'cause it was such a riot to see happen live)
Dame da na, zenzen dame da ze!
ErikZerg
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden57 Posts
June 29 2011 08:09 GMT
#1920
i cant belive bw people are so biased, boxer is just like thebestfOu choya bitbybit and still people keep thinking he's good oO xd
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