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bangersnmash
Australia27 Posts
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Biane
Australia645 Posts
On June 29 2011 17:09 ErikZerg wrote: i cant belive bw people are so biased, boxer is just like thebestfOu choya bitbybit and still people keep thinking he's good oO xd Maybe you need to look at his previous GSL games, season 2 for starters Also, go watch Boxer's wings to understand the circumstance more - he's no where like thebestfou If u also bothered to watch yesterday, choya has improved by miles, but he just didnt have the execution yet | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On June 29 2011 17:09 ErikZerg wrote: i cant belive bw people are so biased, boxer is just like thebestfOu choya bitbybit and still people keep thinking he's good oO xd agreed. welcome to TL, thats how stuff goes  Its more fanbased as opposed to actualy being about skill.asd on the other hand, really good and focussed. Hope he makes it far, hes got the skills for it, atleast in TvT so far. | ||
MrCon
France29748 Posts
Your obervers snipes were brilliant today. This is so important in TvP and so much terrans just let observers hovering above their army for the whole game TT. (I guess you already know that :p) | ||
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MotherOfRunes
Germany2862 Posts
On June 29 2011 16:31 Executor1 wrote: lol all the people dissing boxer and saying he should retire, i have this to say. Hes still better than 99% of the foreigners, he didnt drop a series to a foreigner in NASL at all and he won pretty decisevely not to mention he was playing with lag. So maybe every foreigner should retire as well? i guess most people talking such shit are the new ones to starcraft. and besides that, who the hell of you knows how comfortable he is feeling with his shoulder? do you actually know how hard the competition is? and how easy it is to get knocked down to the bottom? should a DRG retire as well? how about all the new mma fanboys since mlg,do they think he should retire now too? the gsl is hard, no matter if b a or s. sometimes you will just have a hard time and then you need just a shitload of stamina. to retire ist the total opposite to what he needs now... anyways...first his son, now the emperor himself. i officially call that a black week of starcraft 2  (((( | ||
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vertical101
Hong Kong311 Posts
On June 29 2011 17:08 Bobster wrote: Can someone point me to Boxer's profile on sc2ranks.com? I'm having no luck finding it right now. sc2ranks 0 games on ladder tho, i pm cella trying to get boxer new ID but he said boxer doesnt play ladder or hes just hidding it. maybe he will ladder now to qualfy for code A if u can see on the last 25match on his custom games, he practice with MKP,KeenMvP scfOu and even his opponent asdfOu(nuclearfOu) he got a lot of wins or i read it wrong and i dont get it he practice with fOu guys?does he now that asdfOu is nuclearfOu? | ||
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mikyaJ
1834 Posts
On June 29 2011 16:57 shadymmj wrote: Just goes to show how volatile this game is. Extremely strange, I don't know, call it what you will but MMA was silver in the super tourney last month and now he's code B, boxer was top 4 in an earlier round of code S, fruitdealer was the first winner and now he has disappeared off the face of the earth. I'm not so sure that it's a result of gameplay evolution. Everything about this is so wrong. Fruitdealer won because he was doing things that nobody else was doing. Then people either caught up, or figured him out (like MKP did). BoxeR made Ro4 in the second GSL. Waaaaaaaaay back before Code S existed. And Fruitdealer is still in Code S btw. Regarding MMA, he played only TvT............... the entire tournament. He hit a good Protoss round 1 and is gone. And that match in particular shouldn't be so surprising if people actually look deeper into the two players. Puzzle was the original Team League Bonjwa, long before MMA and the GSTL's existed. MMA is also weak in TvP. Puzzle, is not. b_unnies even predicted it. Fruitdealer is fading because of game play evolution. For example, Mvp, Jinro, and TOP were the first Terrans to stop doing the (or never start) stupid 1 base all-ins, and start a more macro style. In season 3, while every other Terran was still 2 raxing every time and 1 basing it to finals Jinro stood against the norm and made it to the Ro4 with a superior style. He did the same the next season, TOP won Code A, and Mvp won Code S. But then the other Terrans caught on, and no offense to Jinro, but he never saw that same success again. Hopefully now he's coming back, but if you get what I mean. The people who start or pioneer new strategies always will have more success, and sometimes fall off. MKP made his first finals because of his innovation of the 2 Rax and using Bio in TvT. Other terrans caught on, but MKP didn't fade away like Jinro or Fruitdealer did. Same with Mvp. And Jinro using Mech against MC and winning? That was legendary. But now Supernova does that every game and is quite renowned for his TvP because of it. And ThorZain does the same with his Thor build and has large success because of it. These are all results of gameplay shifts, not volatility. To be a top player you need to be ahead of the curve. To be Code S you need to at least be with the curve. And might I add that Grrr... the first OSL winner never had the same success he did after that, and he was known for winning with creativity rather than mechanics. Same with Fruitdealer (sort of) | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On June 29 2011 17:14 ihasaKAROT wrote: agreed. welcome to TL, thats how stuff goes Its more fanbased as opposed to actualy being about skill.asd on the other hand, really good and focussed. Hope he makes it far, hes got the skills for it, atleast in TvT so far. Yay, people who think they're above the "sheeple" who just root for players on a fan-based system rather than a skill-based system. One of the things about sports is that most people root for players they're fans of, not just the "best" players all the time. People have these things called emotions, you see, and it's always more engaging to emotionally invest yourself in things that you have an interest in. To clarify, I don't even think BoxeR is that great. But that doesn't stop me from cheering for him, because of who he is. I'm sure most people here feel the same. Most of the people here aren't really saying that BoxeR is a better player than asd, or that asd sucks. People are just sad that BoxeR lost. | ||
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Herry
England681 Posts
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mikyaJ
1834 Posts
On June 29 2011 17:21 HolyArrow wrote: Yay, people who think they're above the "sheeple" who just root for players on a fan-based system rather than a skill-based system. One of the things about sports is that most people root for players they're fans of, not just the "best" players all the time. People have these things called emotions, you see, and it's always more engaging to emotionally invest yourself in things that you have an interest in. To clarify, I don't even think BoxeR is that great. But that doesn't stop me from cheering for him, because of who he is. I'm sure most people here feel the same. Most of the people here aren't really saying that BoxeR is a better player than asd, or that asd sucks. People are just sad that BoxeR lost. There's nothing wrong with rooting for popular players. It's just, people think that players are better than they actually are because of their popularity all the time though. Also wtf BoxeR is nothing like BitbyBit screw that | ||
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
how do you explain boxer roflstomping the NASL? so ur saying foreigners sux and should retire? | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On June 29 2011 17:24 mikyaJ wrote: There's nothing wrong with rooting for popular players. It's just, people think that players are better than they actually are because of their popularity all the time though. Well, that's a naturally byproduct of being popular. I can see how that's annoying, certainly. However, I don't really see anyone really saying that BoxeR being amazing. Like I said, people are just sad because BoxeR is an awesome person. | ||
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
I think she's talking about BoxeR and his match though cause there's stuff about a shoulder and possibly shoulder pain in there, anyone know what it says? And this seems to be a lot like yesterday in that people are like going after BoxeR like they did with MMA. | ||
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Herry
England681 Posts
On June 29 2011 17:24 mikyaJ wrote: There's nothing wrong with rooting for popular players. It's just, people think that players are better than they actually are because of their popularity all the time though. thats how sport works buddy. you follow a team in any other sport that wins titles and is the best all the time? shit i bet people all around the world follow teams and players that never win titles or even make play offs, but who cares thats just not why we watch it. people forget this is a SPORT. the game is what you play when you load it up. | ||
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doihy
668 Posts
On June 29 2011 17:26 thoradycus wrote: people saying boxer sux etc.... how do you explain boxer roflstomping the NASL? so ur saying foreigners sux and should retire? boxer "sux" but foreigners "sux" even more | ||
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Biane
Australia645 Posts
On June 29 2011 17:22 Herry wrote: I hate to say it but Boxer was never going to go very far, he was never any good at the macro game, was getting outplayed by Nada in 2003. he is fun to watch and an inspirational person in general and i will always love him but he is no top player anymore. kinda sad to see that he still thinks he can win a title. If he can get pass MC (and its a very big IF), he stands a decent chance at the finals of NASL, and yeah i agree that its kindda sad to see that he still can perform, but thats what people like about him - he never gives up, never says die (maybe a bit too extreme now that his shoulder is becoming an issue >.<) | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On June 29 2011 17:22 Herry wrote: I hate to say it but Boxer was never going to go very far, he was never any good at the macro game, was getting outplayed by Nada in 2003. he is fun to watch and an inspirational person in general and i will always love him but he is no top player anymore. kinda sad to see that he still thinks he can win a title. Yeah, I really wish he could do better since he seems to have so much passion for what he does. But I think it's more inspirational than sad that he continues to persevere. | ||
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mikyaJ
1834 Posts
On June 29 2011 17:28 Biane wrote: If he can get pass MC (and its a very big IF), he stands a decent chance at the finals of NASL, and yeah i agree that its kindda sad to see that he still can perform, but thats what people like about him - he never gives up, never says die (maybe a bit too extreme now that his shoulder is becoming an issue >.<) + Show Spoiler + Doesn't matter because Puma is gonna trolololol his way to 50k without having to play for the 9 weeks. | ||
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doihy
668 Posts
her tweet can someone please translate this tweet? obviously has something to do with his shoulder jinjury | ||
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