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TheHova
United Kingdom2612 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:34 akalarry wrote: show me a replay of effective use of cloaked ghosts, unless you're just theorycrafting of course Watch Hashe use cloaked ghosts against that composition. I don't know if he has a replay pack but he's very good at using them. He also gets nuke for them too and uses it surprisingly well. He makes it look completely viable. | ||
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Anton K
Sweden277 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:32 1Eris1 wrote: Ehhh, terran seems to be doing pretty good in the GSL. Nada was playing at like 3 am in the morning, cut him some slack MorroW plays from sweden and also has to go up in the middle of the night to play, your point is invalid. | ||
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Gnax
Sweden490 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:31 drox22 wrote: Why is it so hard to understand that if you go for mass ghosts you will just get rolled by ling baneling later on? Do you have any replays of mass ghost being rolled by ling baneling later on? | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:32 Azarkon wrote: Sen needs to learn from Morrow or Dimaga in ZvT. Morrow needs to learn from Dimaga or Sen in ZvZ. Dimaga needs to learn from Sen or Morrow in ZvP. Then they'll all be unstoppable power houses. As for Idra, he seems to have other priorities in life at the moment, so it's really up to him whether he wants to try to address his weaknesses or not. Nerchio - unfortunately he doesn't play in many big tournaments, as someone above said, but I think he's definitely an excellent player and up there in terms of foreigner Zergs. Should also mention Vibe, an up-and-coming NA Zerg, as well as Sheth, Slush, etc. for runner ups. Morrows ZvT is better than Dimagas ATM (IMO). Dimaga unfortunately keeps using ultras instead of broodlord/infestor/corruptor. Broodlord/infestor/corruptor does looks like a pretty unstoppable combo. Terrans really need to start experimenting with everything they can think of. Because clearly marines/tanks/vikings isn't working right now. Options are keep losing a pray for a patch or try out anything and everything (ghosts, ravens whatever). | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
It's not exactly the biggest secret that a 6 base zerg with every single tech tree and upgrade imaginable with lots of money banked is hard to deal with nada didn't have an equivalent economy or tech so he lost | ||
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NickelStarCraft
26 Posts
Nada didn't leave his base in any of the three games. Thats just not good play. | ||
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GwSC
United States1997 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:35 drox22 wrote: And the broodlords are going to magically explode or what? No, but vikings out-range corruptors and without fungals to hold the vikings down they are much more effective, again. | ||
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junemermaid
United States981 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:33 TheHova wrote: You compliment your army with the ghosts. How is that so hard to do? Cloaked ghosts are extremely difficult to deal with as a Zerg. How are cloaked ghosts extremely difficult to deal with... Zerg's response is to make a few overseers (two?) and tons of spore crawlers everywhere. The creep is already surrounding the map, its not like the ghost are going to be able to sneak around. Its not going to really stop infestors, much like templar have a very difficult time getting feedbacks off. | ||
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Spectorials
558 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:33 Cryhavoc wrote: he just needed 2 ghosts to emp whole infestors what mass ghost are you talking about +1 never said mass ghosts. 3-4 with cloak is sufficient to shutdown the majority of fungals. gotta be a bit more open minded drox n co | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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crabz
227 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:34 Chainfire99 wrote: Good games anyways. Passive terran is bad terran! he was offensive but as soon as his first drop was shut down he couldnt do much, his army was all the time pushed back by infestor banaling/muta so dont act like nada could just walked into morrows base at any time because thats bullshit. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:37 Anton K wrote: MorroW plays from sweden and also has to go up in the middle of the night to play, your point is invalid. Okay whatever, Nada has always been poor with TvZ. Honestly guys cut the fucking crap. We had an all terran GSL semis with most of the top zergs getting knocked out with macro play. | ||
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Gnax
Sweden490 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:37 Anton K wrote: MorroW plays from sweden and also has to go up in the middle of the night to play, your point is invalid. If it's 3 am in korea it's 8 pm in Sweden. | ||
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CEPEHDREI
Germany1521 Posts
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figq
12519 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:34 NickelStarCraft wrote: Otherwise you: 1. don't allow zerg to expand 13 million times; 2. expand yourself a bunch; 3. build a crapton of PFs, turrets and bunkers everywhere; 4. harass some more --> honestly, nada tried to harass some, but wasn't nearly enough, especially for him (i'm surprised)The BL/Infestor combination is going to be changed. Wouldn't have mattered that game, but if you have a bunch of ghosts, maybe you survive, if you cloak, and zerg has no detection, and you EMP perfectley, and you micro your marines really well, and unsiege your tanks, and have enough Vikings, ...... Then maybe you win. Otherwise your dead. | ||
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doihy
668 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:37 Anton K wrote: MorroW plays from sweden and also has to go up in the middle of the night to play, your point is invalid. Ok here's another point that is valid, nada plays with lag... terran requires more micro then zerg... he has to wake up in the middle of the night.. .but wait theres more! He has to go to school in the morning! but wait.... theres even more! It's finals week in korea! | ||
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Cryhavoc
372 Posts
On June 17 2011 12:35 drox22 wrote: And the broodlords are going to magically explode or what? emp infestors kill bloodlords with marines even ghosts have snipe what part u didnt understand | ||
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NickelStarCraft
26 Posts
he was offensive but as soon as his first drop was shut down he couldnt do much, his army was all the time pushed back by infestor banaling/muta so dont act like nada could just walked into morrows base at any time because thats bullshit. Nada didn't leave his base with his main army in either of the three games. so this :Good games anyways. Passive terran is bad terran! is very valid. | ||
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quiet noise
599 Posts
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
Korean terrans are completely dominating in every MU and you still complain about the super end game zerg army that is 100% reliant on fungals that can be negated with an AoE spell? | ||
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