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MacWorld
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden227 Posts
June 17 2011 15:51 GMT
#1561
Wasn't the four finalist in GSL Terrans or am I missing something here? More balance whine because Morrow played excellent and won a BO3 vs Nada?

Grattis Morrow!
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 16:21:17
June 17 2011 16:17 GMT
#1562
Some things :
- Nada didn't harass at all. 2 drops could have taken the 4th and 5th very easily had his army pressured the south path.
- the game was over way before infestor broodlords corruptors, lings blings or just 100 blings would have woked the same
- ghosts would have worked (at least worked better than nada's composition). 4 ghosts who carpet EMP the infestors allow marines to dive under the broodlords and focus them .
- nada didn't focus fired the broodlords with vikings. In TvP, against colossi phoenix, it's a big mistake to allow the vikings to target the phoenixes. It's the same in TvZ, you have to focus the BL to reduce their numbers, nada had enough vikings to ff one shot broodlords and kill at least 3 of them before losing his vikings..
- the "but even one fungal is enough" argument is not true. If you have a big marine viking ball, one fungal will not even be noticed, even 2.
- but he real problem is that nada just let morrow drone to 100 unmolested. After seeing MMA games, each time I see a terran that doesn't have at least one active drop 100% of the time I know something is missing. And MMA's drop strategy is very good, he doesn't try to always drop hatches and drones. I suggest all T players to study his games vs DRG, July and Losira, a lot to learn here (and in the TL analysis of MMA, HERE)
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
June 17 2011 16:32 GMT
#1563
free stream got lowered to 360p -__-
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
June 17 2011 16:38 GMT
#1564
morrow played very well. i wanted him to lose but he deserved the win. I think nada showing those hellion in game 3 was a big mistake. Morrow had NOTHING and he kills a zergling with the hellions so morrow makes 16 lings and a spine.
DasHawk
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark362 Posts
June 17 2011 16:58 GMT
#1565
Morrow played fucking amazing, really well deserved win!
TT1 should have beat Nada though, ohhh my god that game 1 - i have never seen anyone throw away a win like that. It wasent even like Nada did something crazy to come back. TT1 just handled almost everything absolutely horrible, after the first good push...
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
June 17 2011 17:03 GMT
#1566
Wasn't Nada known mostly for his macro?
I have no quote!
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
June 17 2011 17:11 GMT
#1567
On June 18 2011 02:03 najreteip wrote:
Wasn't Nada known mostly for his macro?

Nada was known for incredible mechanics in general, not specifically for macro. You may be thinking of Oov.
My strategy is to fork people.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 17 2011 17:16 GMT
#1568
Wow, that was TTlol :o
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 17:18:02
June 17 2011 17:17 GMT
#1569
TT1 threw that game away -.-'
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 17 2011 17:27 GMT
#1570
Didn't need to go up the ramp, just wait at the bottom and let nada impaling himself
Anyway, this serie shows that TT1 can beat Nada, just need to avoid one key mistake.
fishinguy
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation798 Posts
June 17 2011 17:59 GMT
#1571
On June 18 2011 00:51 xbankx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 22:48 MorroW wrote:
"morrow can only baneling bust vs terran"
ok

"morrow stop toying with nada"
so you mean when im far ahead i shouldnt go for the safe win instead attack and if it fails dont have a backup plan to guarantee my win?

i would never toy with nada. hes pretty much the best terran in the world among with mvp imo (judging from gsl). hes such a nice guy online and in person aswell

"zvt imba"
maybe, but you cant judge it off of these games where nada play on lag and when hes very sleepy. he let me scout whats going on (saw reaper coming, saw the hellions coming, saw the 3rd cc building in the natural) on metal and his early game harasses didnt work out so i ended up ahead alot and after that the game was passive, it should look pretty much like this then. i was just answering to everything i scouted and if you let zerg know whats up theres no reason not to make only drones and right amounts of units to stop it

your goal in tvz is to keep up fairly good army trades while keeping nice economy and surviving zergs rebuild counter attacks. if you keep killing gas units of zerg and force zerg to make units he wont afford 200food infestor broodlord corruptor. its like 200 food colossus voidray, sentry, high templar vs zerg. id like to see a zerg beat that head on lol

so i think a keypart about tvz is not letting zerg figure out shit ur doing, then he must blindly prepare (if hes a safe player) or take risks of not building enough units but then this harass or attack might come and kill u or put u far behind

if i can play tvz in nasl i would. im race picker now for about a week :p


On June 17 2011 22:47 nihlon wrote:
I have a feeling, "make more ghosts" is the new "make more nydas."


the difference is that ghost is actually awesome vs zerg midlate and late while aggressive nydusihopehedoesntlookattheminimap is just relying on your opponent fucking up



Why didn't you stay as terran? Why did you have to go to the dark side.....


Terran IS the dark side
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
June 17 2011 18:05 GMT
#1572
Holy shit Morrow is looking beastly, but Socke just has really been orchestrating poor attacks lately even though his overall strategy and macro seem sound. Kudos to Morrow, can't wait to see him play Nada!
Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
June 17 2011 18:52 GMT
#1573
Is it just me or crash JTV again during set 2 of Nada vs Morrow?
kovac
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden123 Posts
June 17 2011 18:54 GMT
#1574
On June 18 2011 03:52 Thrombozyt wrote:
Is it just me or crash JTV again during set 2 of Nada vs Morrow?

jupp same for me
NaNiwa>ThorZaIN: WHAT you broke the game again dont you have any shame??
Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
June 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#1575
Too bad that they can still play their commercials.
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1105 Posts
June 18 2011 01:38 GMT
#1576
On June 17 2011 22:07 Sina92 wrote:
Morrow is better than NaDa. GG


Winning one best of 3 doesn't make Morrow "better".

Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
Draffut
Profile Joined July 2009
United States128 Posts
June 18 2011 01:58 GMT
#1577
Build Infestors.

???

Win Game.

I love TvZ.

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